Mid-Range Game 24: Baleful Eye

[Arinian]

I don't think that here were 2 kills, only one. Winter was killed by Reckoner's. And Flash and Mint were lovers... just look on their items, I think Flash "traded" items on drugs and gifted "traded" items to his "Lover" to Mint I mean(Also it's easy to prove if I right about that, we just need to ask what items were "traded" from people on drugs). I think that was something with their win condition. And it's usual for both Lovers to die when one of them dies. 

[King Cole he/him]

10 minutes ago, Arinian said:

I don't think that here were 2 kills, only one. Winter was killed by Reckoner's. And Flash and Mint were lovers... just look on their items, I think Flash "traded" items on drugs and gifted "traded" items to his "Lover" to Mint I mean(Also it's easy to prove if I right about that, we just need to ask what items were "traded" from people on drugs). I think that was something with their win condition. And it's usual for both Lovers to die when one of them dies. 

But wouldn't his role be lover?

[Arinian]

Just now, King Cole said:

But wouldn't his role be lover?

*Shrug*

[Sami she/her]

Sandra sighed. Screw you, Balelight. The forcefield epic was probably miles away by now and she had been so close to snapping! (okay, mistborn term but whatever) 

She started to her safehouse. She needed a new phone - one that was actually hard enough for smashing people's noses, not sitting delicately in the bottom of someone's furry purse.  Then she would start tracking them down.

Edited August 28, 2017 by Sami

[Ecthelion III he/him]

I'm tired of these last-minute lynches when I'm not on, so I'm finally going to vote. So due to last cycle's write-up, Crimsn was clearly killed by Lavalake, part of the Epic Cabal. Wasn't it Eternum that assumed that she was a Cabal kill right off the bat? "Crimsn was killed by an epic (Cabal obv"  Plus him saying this...

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But no, really. Dang. Cabal is taking quite a hit, 2 members dead already. I don't know how many members there are, but that can't be good for them. IDK if it's good for me, though, either.

...just seems off to me, and I think he's likely a Cabalite.

I'm also less and less inclined to believe Len's claim of vanilla village as the game progresses, as with all the dead players we've seen a grand total of 0 dead villagers.

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As Robin ran, the words of the Epics behind carried through the city.

“You seem to have an interesting skillset." The voice must have been Balelight's. "I will give you a choice, Epic. Run, now, and vanish into one of those portals, or serve me. I give you an hour to decide.”

“And if I run?” Falchion.

“You die as soon as I lay eyes on you again. I trust that this situation will be taken care of properly, and I shall be disappointed if I find that it is not.” 

This situation? Robin thought. Sparks, sparks, SPARKS! If Falchion doesn't obey Balelight, he'll be killed in a flash, but if he does, we're done for. "Scotty, we have to get someplace where Falchion can't find...Scotty?"

Her eyes were filled not with relief of having escaped, or even fear of Falchion. They were full of utter rage.

@BrightnessRadiant @Elithanathile

[Elenion he/him]

*sets up shop at a computer*

*opens excel doc*

*bobs head to imaginary music*

It's time to get some things done.

First off, I've made a spreadsheet and read the thread from front to back.

@King Cole  On page 16 you claimed to be part of a neutral faction. Unless you're with the Epic Cabal or Malcontents, I doubt your claim. Are you with either of those and, if you are, what is your win con?

@Ecthelion III  I'm beginning to get paranoid that I'm the only one, because seriously people, where are you villagers? Where is the honor of this city? 2 nights ago I sent in an order to target Winter with any or all of my actions, in case I had a secret role that I wasn't informed about, and I successfully performed no actions against Winter, so that's that.

According to my spreadsheet, of 18 living players, there are 6 neutral or non-village claims, 1 village claim, and 11 unclaimed.

Also, Roadwalker before he died claimed to be village-friendly but have a faction objective to kill someone or multiple someones. I think the Malcontents may be the opposite of the Epic Cabal, or planning on killing Balelight, or both. Either way, they likely have a faction action, because Road claimed to be putting in a joke action C1, which he wouldn't have done if the Malcontents had access to a lot of role actions.

Role-wise, we haven't accounted for the Thief that hit Alv along with the Drug Dealer, or the Roleblock that hit Roadwalker C1.

[Ecthelion III he/him]

I forgot to say, the Sedatives got stolen too last night. >_>

[King Cole he/him]

@Elenion All I'm going to say right now is that I'm neutral and my win condition doesn't require me to kill anyone

Edited August 28, 2017 by King Cole

[Eternum he/him]

Uh Cole, Len asked you, I didn't.

Yes, Ecth, I did assume it was a Cabal kill because she was killed in a lake of lava. I don't think the Reckoners or Malcontents can create lakes of lava.

Pretty much, you're lynching me because I was right in my assumptions.

[Seonid he/him]

Public Service Announcement:

The cycle will be extended by 3 hours, due to unavoidable schedule conflicts. I'm 90% sure that future cycles will return to the standard timing.

[Alvron]

Well this is boring.  I'm all for random lynches and all but we could at least do some voting.

Sadly, you lot lynched the one person that was openly willing to share information.  Why?  There must be a reason.  Eternum I can see as they openly said they didn't want to be randomly lynched.  But  Ari and Mark added their votes when they weren't needed as Mint already had the required two vote minimum with no one else having even one vote on them and zero sign, that I have seen, of any vote manipulations all game.  In a game where there has been so very little information revealed in thread, why would you want to lynch someone willing to pass information around?

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

Yo yo guys

Sorry I've been busy, first day of classes in college today

Not much RP going down rn, sad

As for voting or something... I should probably at least make an effort

1 hour ago, Alvron said:

Well this is boring.  I'm all for random lynches and all but we could at least do some voting.

Sadly, you lot lynched the one person that was openly willing to share information.  Why?  There must be a reason.  Eternum I can see as they openly said they didn't want to be randomly lynched.  But  Ari and Mark added their votes when they weren't needed as Mint already had the required two vote minimum with no one else having even one vote on them and zero sign, that I have seen, of any vote manipulations all game.  In a game where there has been so very little information revealed in thread, why would you want to lynch someone willing to pass information around?

Well, if it's Ari and Mark, lets put them both up for lynch, hehe...

22 hours ago, King Cole said:

@Elenion All I'm going to say right now is that I'm neutral and my win condition doesn't require me to kill anyone

Neutrals.

Neutrals everywhere.

[Ecthelion III he/him]

I'd be fine with a lynch on Arin or Mark, unless one of them provides an explanation for their vote. Though it wouldn't spark particularly much discussion.

Alvron--any luck helping out with the thief-tracking-down club?

[Elenion he/him]

I kinda want to lean on Cole more, to get an idea of what all of these factions want, but then again he's likely neutral if he claimed a team, and killing neutrals and antagonizing others isn't in my best interests.

I'm going to vote Mark. Eternum specified his reasoning, and I have a slight village toneread on Arin compared to no read on Mark, so that leaves Mark as my preferred lynch out of those three.

[Alvron]

1 hour ago, Ecthelion III said:

Alvron--any luck helping out with the thief-tracking-down club?

I know of someone who claims to have been the one to "trade" with you on C1 if that's who you're after.

[Ecthelion III he/him]

@Alvron YES! I SHALL DESTROY THEM!!!

[Alvron]

What's the information worth to you?

[Ecthelion III he/him]

Good question. Seeing as I can't actually do anything to kill the person or hinder them in any way, it probably doesn't matter. >_>

[BrightnessRadiant she/her]

"Scotty is everything all right?" Robin's words rang in her ears. Her head swam from resisting the urge to kill someone, or destroy something. She was holding on by a thread, and it was fraying. The world seemed to blur, as the inner struggle was all she could focus on. She snapped back to the present when she heard Balelight giving Falchion an ultimatum.

"Scotty, we have to get someplace where Falchion can't find...Scotty?" Once again, Robin's words were lost as the blood rushed to her head, and she was filled with a hate so powerful she wouldn't have thought it possible. Who is Balelight to command such powerful beings?! Why should we bend and cower to her will? Together we could take her place, and bring a new and better rule to this city. Unite the epics who have long hidden under her dominion, killed on a whim whenever she decides. Balelight has proven herself an unfit leader, and must be removed!

The thread snapped. Scotty was consumed by rage, and it was all focused on one goal. Destroy Balelight. 

@Ecthelion III too bad the thief stole your sedatives xD (maybe find some anyways for rp purposes? hahaha)

[Eternum he/him]

I'll vote on Arinian because they did vote on Mint for no real reason, but also tried to pass off Flash's death as Mint's lover dying, which seems really suspicious to me, after the writeup clearly shows them as being killed with a knife.

Edited August 29, 2017 by Eternum

[Arinian]

2 hours ago, Eternum said:

I'll vote on Arinian because they did vote on Mint for no real reason, but also tried to pass off Flash's death as Mint's lover dying, which seems really suspicious to me, after the writeup clearly shows them as being killed with a knife.

Write up very often don't says truth, in some games were protect roles protected themselves it was revealed in write up as someone else protecting them. So I don't think that you can make such judgments based only on write up.

Also if you people so interested why I'm voted on Mint answer is to solidify vote, we have had only 2 votes on Mint without my vote and we heard atleast about one kind of vote manipulations in this game(Sedatives) and so it's was easy to deny lynch just by only sedative, also I want to say that winter later retracted vote from Mint and so if I or Mark not voted on Mint than there would be random lynch.

Also I'm neutral(but that the secret) so I'm not cared who would be lynched if it's not me. 

Edited August 29, 2017 by Arinian

[Mark IV he/him]

9 hours ago, Alvron said:

Well this is boring.  I'm all for random lynches and all but we could at least do some voting.

Sadly, you lot lynched the one person that was openly willing to share information.  Why?  There must be a reason.  Eternum I can see as they openly said they didn't want to be randomly lynched.  But  Ari and Mark added their votes when they weren't needed as Mint already had the required two vote minimum with no one else having even one vote on them and zero sign, that I have seen, of any vote manipulations all game.  In a game where there has been so very little information revealed in thread, why would you want to lynch someone willing to pass information around?

But wasn't there vote manipulation on D2 where Jon was lynched? Also, If what Arinian says is true, Sedatives allow vote manip (although I did not know this at the time). But how's it an SE game without vote manip. 

 Also, if it's information you want, just ask. 

Here's what I know so far: 

1. There's four factions in this game. Perhaps a hidden fifth, but I doubt it. 
2. The first faction is the Epic Cabal. Their main goal is to eliminate the Reckoners and secure their rule over the city (They, however, do not need to harm the villagers). They likely consist of 4-5 players, two of whom are dead. They generally don't possess any items, but have two powers each.
3. The second faction is the Reckoners. Their main goal is to finish off the Epic Cabal (They, however, do not need to harm the villagers). They start with two items (to compensate for their lack of powers). They consist of the same number of players that the Cabal does (i.e. 4-5 players)
4. The third faction is the Loyal citizens. Their win condition is that the Epic Cabal wins the Game. They likely start out with no inherent abilities (unlike the epics), but may obtain items from the black market/ thieves or something. 
5. The fourth Faction is the Malcontents. They're the Reckoner analogue to the Loyal Citizen. Their main goal is to make sure that the reckoners win against the Epics. They too most likely start an item but with no inherent abilities, but may gain items ... blah blah....
6. I've not seen any signs of a fifth faction, So I'm willing to discount this possibility for now. 
7. Oh. And also, there's neutrals. 

I will give out more info if you let me live. I know this is all info that one could have gleaned from the thread itself, but I thought I'd show what I have. 

I also encourage other people to put out basic information they've gathered on the thread. IMO, the sooner we can guess at the nature of things, the more fun this game will be. (although that is just my opinion. It's your choice if you want to remain shrouded in darkness)

Also, Alv, I couldn't help but notice, you could apply the exact same argument to what eternum did. (On a side note, IIRC, winter started the vote off on mint, but that's irrelevant). Though Eternum's motive was to protect himself, his actions still resulted in mint's death. He is as guilty of killing mint as I or Arin are. 

Secondly, you say you've seen no sign of vote manip this game and you assume that I am also complacent with this info. So, why do you assume that I had some ulterior motive in killing mint? If you believed that the votes once cast could not be manipulated, then how would any of us voting change the result? I also see that you aren't asking us whether we thought there was vote manip. So, it's obvious that you thought we wanted make 100% sure that mint died despite the lack of vote manip. 

(That last paragraph was confusing to type out. If it confused you, the reader too, just read the last sentence. That should serve as a good summary) (Also note that I'm not saying vote for eternum, but simply pointing things out)

There are people passing information around in the dark alleys and ditches background. I don't understand what you stood to gain specifically from mint. 

All this vote-y business makes my finger itch. Alv. I have a gut feeling that you were trying to save eternum. Which is fishy. And turtley. Also jellyfish-y. 

I have a feeling I'm not going to survive this lynch now, so late into the cycle.   

 

Edit:

3 hours ago, Eternum said:

I'll vote on Arinian because they did vote on Mint for no real reason, but also tried to pass off Flash's death as Mint's lover dying, which seems really suspicious to me, after the writeup clearly shows them as being killed with a knife.

The write-up may not be factually accurate and should not be used as basis for a vote. I have a GM clarification regarding this. 

Edited August 29, 2017 by Mark IV

[Eternum he/him]

Yeah, OK, but if Arinian is right there was no Cabal kill last cycle.

And, Mark, how do you know all of that stuff about the factions? Sure, we knew there are 4 factions, and thanks for letting us know about all this stuff, but how do you know so much about them? Doesn't exactly make me suspicious, just wary. How did you find all that info out?

EDIT: Also, there was no vote manipulation on D2. Majestic was lynched, and since they were a Jester role the person with the second-most votes was lynched instead. Or that's what I think happened.

Edited August 29, 2017 by Eternum

[Arinian]

4 minutes ago, Eternum said:

Yeah, OK, but if Arinian is right there was no Cabal kill last cycle.

And, Mark, how do you know all of that stuff about the factions? Sure, we knew there are 4 factions, and thanks for letting us know about all this stuff, but how do you know so much about them? Doesn't exactly make me suspicious, just wary. How did you find all that info out?

EDIT: Also, there was no vote manipulation on D2. Majestic was lynched, and since they were a Jester role the person with the second-most votes was lynched instead. Or that's what I think happened.

I think I can give you answers for both of us. I think all what Mark wrote about factions is guesses, just like it was guess from me about what happened with Flash, both and I and Mark can be wrong in our guesses... so I don't see in what you trying to accuse us... in that we playing in blackout game and trying to guess about what happening around? That in what you accusing us?

Maybe I'm wrong and it's not only guesses from Mark *Shrug*.

Also if someone missed I will quote Ecth's post where he says what Sedatives do:

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Someone just "traded" for my best item, without my consent. Whoever the thief is, know that I officially hate you.  (For everyone's notice, the item which I got back is a one-use item called Sedatives that allows me to cancel a player's vote. If anyone claimed to have such a thing, please arrest them.)

 

[Eternum he/him]

I'm not accusing Mark of anything, Arinian. I'm just curious as to where he got that information. He seems to be pretty sure of it, having said that he's willing to share more info if we leave him alive.

I'm accusing you, though, of trying to pass off Flash's death as him being Mint's lover, which doesn't seem likely, seeing as his role wasn't "Lover" as it should be in this case, unless Mint's role had some differences from an ordinary lover role.