Quick Fix Game 24: Eliminating Elysium

[Sart he/him]

Tom Kress was having a very bad day. The aliens he had worked so hard to lobby for were going to kill him. He felt it in his bones. Of course, he was prepared. He patted his back, where a pistol lay concealed. He wouldn't go out without a fight. He wondered who among them could be an alien. He was on the verge of figuring something out, when several thousand psyblades struck him in the back. He went down without a fight.

Randuir was killed. He was a Human Soldier.

The day will end in roughly 24 hours.

Player List:

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1. BrightnessRadiant: Raven
2. Cloudjumper: Phineas Human Soldier
3. Jondesu: Douglas Adams
4. Asterion137: Ferb
5. StrikerEZ: Nathaniel Southeast
6. Drake Marshall
7. Elenion: Plato Andersen
8. Randuir: Tom Kress Human Soldier
9. The Flash: Wally West
10. Bridge Boy: Devon Halberdeen Human UIB Agent
11. Paranoid King: DR01D Human Cyto Adept
12. TheMightyLopen: Alm
13. Arinian: Red Fess Human Firebrand
14. Yitzi2: Jack Cooper
15. Cluny the Scourge: Cluny
16. Seonid: Sam Reaves
17. Ecthelion

[Steeldancer he/him]

*strangled noise* that was me guys. I guarded against him. Or I assume that was me. could it have been the elims instead? 

Also we kind of need to find an elim soon. They might our number us way too soon if we don't find one. 

Edited June 27, 2017 by The Flash

[asterion137 he/him]

7 minutes ago, The Flash said:

*strangled noise* that was me guys. I guarded against him. Or I assume that was me. could it have been the elims instead? 

Also we kind of need to find an elim soon. They might our number us way too soon if we don't find one. 

was probably the elims cuz only one kill

[Elenion he/him]

1 hour ago, The Flash said:

*strangled noise* that was me guys. I guarded against him. Or I assume that was me. could it have been the elims instead? 

Also we kind of need to find an elim soon. They might our number us way too soon if we don't find one. 

No, that wasn't you, because Randuir didn't have an action that could have gotten him killed with Cytonics. The elims killed him, but your reaction makes me think that you're village.

That leaves us with 12 living players out of 17. Because of the number of players and the potential for villagers killing other villagers with Cytonics (as we've seen already), I think we have three elims currently in the game, although there might be a fourth to account for the potential of the elim killer dying to Cytonics. That gives us about three cycles that we can go without catching an elim, about a 25% chance of randomly lynching an elim, and a higher chance (albeit still a low one) of successfully using Cytonics.

[BrightnessRadiant she/her]

Well they got Randuir....not surprising since he was really driving this game in the right direction 

Does anyone else find it strange that the elims have taken down 2 human soldiers in a row? The first one had to have been luck right? Cuz they couldn't have scanned anyone yet if they have a UIB agent? Which now that I think of it, could be really terrifying.

Do you think they took out Rand because of his skills as a player or because he was a soldier who they were afraid of helping to mis-lynch because if they voted on him there's a chance they could die? So what are the odds that they have a UIB agent and maybe only 2 elims?

So far, Drake is still one of my top suspects, as I said before (if you wanna see why, I made a post about him on Day 2)

Edit: Ninja'd by @Elenion  yeah I think there are probably only 3 or 4 elims at the most, considering there weren't that many people to begin with.

Edited June 27, 2017 by BrightnessRadiant

[asterion137 he/him]

Yeah I've been reading elim on Drake so far.

[BrightnessRadiant she/her]

@asterion137 mind if I ask you to expand on your vote by giving your reasons?

Not that I'm opposed to lynching Drake, obviously lol...but it's good for everyone to hear the reasoning behind votes so we can get better reads from each player.

[Yitzi2]

1 hour ago, BrightnessRadiant said:

Well they got Randuir....not surprising since he was really driving this game in the right direction 

@ElenionDoes anyone else find it strange that the elims have taken down 2 human soldiers in a row? The first one had to have been luck right? Cuz they couldn't have scanned anyone yet if they have a UIB agent? Which now that I think of it, could be really terrifying.

If they were able to scan, they'd be taking out UIB agents and the PCO, not soldiers.

EDIT:

I find it interesting that the elims chose to go after someone who could be defending against anyone, rather than someone that had been asked by a villager (in order to frame them) or an elim (if they thought we wouldn't put so much weight on it).

1 hour ago, BrightnessRadiant said:

So far, Drake is still one of my top suspects, as I said before (if you wanna see why, I made a post about him on Day 2)

Didn't that post just say "I remember being suspicious of him, but not why"?

Edited June 27, 2017 by Yitzi2

[asterion137 he/him]

12 minutes ago, BrightnessRadiant said:

@asterion137 mind if I ask you to expand on your vote by giving your reasons?

Not that I'm opposed to lynching Drake, obviously lol...but it's good for everyone to hear the reasoning behind votes so we can get better reads from each player.

OK. Drake has been playing very aggressively. He tried to break the tie on the D1 lynch, thereby trying to decide the lynch himself. He then asked for the person who killed Bridge Boy to step forward, which led to the lynch of PK, and cast suspicion on the people who switched from yitzi to arinian, possibly trying to set up another kill attempt on yitzi as well as lopen and yourself in the future. 

[BrightnessRadiant she/her]

1 hour ago, Yitzi2 said:

Didn't that post just say "I remember being suspicious of him, but not why"?

Haha it did say that, but I followed it up with analysis in the same post 

Here it is: 

@asterion137 thanks! 

Edit:

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If they were able to scan, they'd be taking out UIB agents and the PCO, not soldiers.

@Yitzi2 they'd only had 1 night to scan so far so if they scanned Rand on that night and found out his role I don't see why they wouldn't kill him? Also, if they have the only other UIB agent then they wouldn't target them. 

Edit #2 I don't remember if it was ever clarified or PAFO, but @Sart is this game role madness?

Edit #3 @Jondesu @StrikerEZ @Drake Marshall @TheMightyLopen @Cluny the Scourge @Seonid @Ecthelion III y'all have thoughts on the lynch?

Edited June 27, 2017 by BrightnessRadiant

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

Yeah, sorry for my absence. Me and my bro just started playing League of Legends, so we were playing pretty much all day.

Anyways, as far as killing Rand for his role, I agree with Asterion on this one in that the priority targets are UIB Agents and PC Operators, so he probably wasn't killed for his role. I figure it was more likely just a fear-kill.

So, I believe the only votes so far are on Drake? I'm actually cool with that lynch I think. I do want to do some actual analysis before I put down my vote though. With L35 starting and being sick and other stuff, I haven't really had the time to do much of that yet.

[BrightnessRadiant she/her]

@TheMightyLopen actually Yitzi said that lol...sorry I didn't make that quote box clear.

But soldiers are harder for them to get rid of through a mis-lynch, and if they attacked a UIB agent or PC operater every time than people might catch on that they have a scanner role.

I'm not saying they have a UIB agent, just that it's a possibility.

[Steeldancer he/him]

GOT IT FINALLY figured out why this name was familiar to me!

"Down for the count and- drownin' in him" 

Points for whoever gets the reference 

[StrikerEZ he/him]

Okay, so I'd have to go back and really look at everything again, but from what I remember off the top of my head, I can't really remember anyone acting too suspicious, though Drake's posts just felt off to me. So I'm gonna lynch Drake, with the reason being a gut read and the fact I agree with others' reasonings for lynching him.

[Yitzi2]

5 hours ago, BrightnessRadiant said:

But soldiers are harder for them to get rid of through a mis-lynch

But also bring the possibility of getting an extra village kill in the process, especially if they're lynched early on.

[Steeldancer he/him]

I agree that drake really was aggressive. but perhaps he could explain his agressivness? 

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

10 hours ago, BrightnessRadiant said:

Edit #3 @Jondesu @StrikerEZ @Drake Marshall @TheMightyLopen @Cluny the Scourge @Seonid @Ecthelion III y'all have thoughts on the lynch?

Yes I might have just a little bit to say about the lynch 

Why you do this now though I hate typing from my phone 

Anyways, down to business. It probably wouldn't be a proper SE game without everyone trying to lynching me at some point.

 

So... First order of business looks to be the vote on cycle 1, yes? I broke a tie.

What I think you guys might be missing is that I cast that vote not knowing what happened when a tie occurred. That question got answered later.

I would love to say I had better reasons and had thought about it more, but my reasons for casting that vote were really simple. I didn't want the tie to result in no lynch, so I made a call on gut read.

 

Second order of business seems to be a comment I made about the switch from Yitzi to Arin. In summary: I acted like it hadn't previously occured to me that elims swapped the vote from Yitzi, when it probably should have occured to me already. Well, I'm guilty there. I haven't been giving this game the time it deserves perhaps. Honestly, it didn't really feel like a sudden switch because we were all online and active at the sudden reversal. But the way Randuir wrote it out looked a lot more suspect than what I had originally thought.

 

Third and final order of business... I am told I've been playing aggressively  Well that's probably true but it's not terribly alignment indicative cause I consistently do that as a villager.

 

Now, basically everyone but Brightness hasn't actually offered reasoning. I'd appreciate some more reasoning to be honest. If I'm gonna die I might as well make it count by making it informative.

 

But really, my defense wouldn't be worth much unless I offered an alternative, would it. It wouldn't hardly matter if you thought I was probably innocent, but I was still the only option.

So, while this vote could scarcely be called altruistic...

Yitzi. I've thought about the whole Yitzi thing. I don't like it. It reminds me of what Dalinar did in AG3, what Alv did in LG30. Although it probably isn't worth much, I'd like to entreat you to the examine Yitzi and consider this.

Edited June 27, 2017 by Drake Marshall

[BrightnessRadiant she/her]

Okay Imma just come out and say it.....Drake, Lopen, and Yitz are my biggest suspicions rn and I'm not sure what to think cuz Lopen says he's cool with voting Drake and Drake just voted Yitzi  hmmm either there's some elims claiming suspicion of each other or only one is actually an elim.

@Drake Marshall I appreciate your defense and it's actually making me reconsider, but for now you're still my top suspicion so I'm sorry but I'll have to keep my vote there for now. 

Everyone else...don't forget to vote please! (And yes...if you could give some actual reasons that'd be great lol)

@TheMightyLopen @Elenion @Cluny the Scourge @Seonid @Jondesu @Ecthelion III

Edit: also Drake, I didn't do it now...I did it 15 hours ago  haha (but yeah I hate doing anything on the phone for SE! Sorry )

Edited June 27, 2017 by BrightnessRadiant

[Sparkrunner he/him]

Ok fine if you keep tagging me-

Drake

I suppose I really do not have any reason for voting on him, I have only played one game with him so I do not know how to analyze him

I think that he is up for the information gathering basic gut read lynch, but @BrightnessRadiant I kind of think you are village and trying to be helpful, but it gets close to mayoring I think. Also- stop using emoticons! They mess with my subtle perceptions and my subconscious starts to think you are innocent.

[Yitzi2]

2 hours ago, Drake Marshall said:

Yes I might have just a little bit to say about the lynch 

Why you do this now though I hate typing from my phone 

Anyways, down to business. It probably wouldn't be a proper SE game without everyone trying to lynching me at some point.

 

So... First order of business looks to be the vote on cycle 1, yes? I broke a tie.

What I think you guys might be missing is that I cast that vote not knowing what happened when a tie occurred. That question got answered later.

I would love to say I had better reasons and had thought about it more, but my reasons for casting that vote were really simple. I didn't want the tie to result in no lynch, so I made a call on gut read.

 

Second order of business seems to be a comment I made about the switch from Yitzi to Arin. In summary: I acted like it hadn't previously occured to me that elims swapped the vote from Yitzi, when it probably should have occured to me already. Well, I'm guilty there. I haven't been giving this game the time it deserves perhaps. Honestly, it didn't really feel like a sudden switch because we were all online and active at the sudden reversal. But the way Randuir wrote it out looked a lot more suspect than what I had originally thought.

 

Third and final order of business... I am told I've been playing aggressively  Well that's probably true but it's not terribly alignment indicative cause I consistently do that as a villager.

 

Now, basically everyone but Brightness hasn't actually offered reasoning. I'd appreciate some more reasoning to be honest. If I'm gonna die I might as well make it count by making it informative.

 

But really, my defense wouldn't be worth much unless I offered an alternative, would it. It wouldn't hardly matter if you thought I was probably innocent, but I was still the only option.

So, while this vote could scarcely be called altruistic...

Yitzi. I've thought about the whole Yitzi thing. I don't like it. It reminds me of what Dalinar did in AG3, what Alv did in LG30. Although it probably isn't worth much, I'd like to entreat you to the examine Yitzi and consider this.

Keep in mind, I'm the one who came up with the plan we're using to avoid more UIB deaths due to Cytonics.  So unless you think I gave the village a good plan just in order to disguise myself...

[BrightnessRadiant she/her]

5 minutes ago, Cluny the Scourge said:

Ok fine if you keep tagging me-

Drake

I suppose I really do not have any reason for voting on him, I have only played one game with him so I do not know how to analyze him

I think that he is up for the information gathering basic gut read lynch, but @BrightnessRadiant I kind of think you are village and trying to be helpful, but it gets close to mayoring I think. Also- stop using emoticons! They mess with my subtle perceptions and my subconscious starts to think you are innocent.

Is quoting better than tagging lol 

I don't think trying to get people involved in the lynch by tagging them is mayoring?  this is a QF and moves incredibly fast and everyone's posting has slacked off incredibly since the LG started so I'm trying to get them to come back to this game.

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

34 minutes ago, BrightnessRadiant said:

@Drake Marshall I appreciate your defense and it's actually making me reconsider, but for now you're still my top suspicion so I'm sorry but I'll have to keep my vote there for now. 

Ehh I wasn't really expecting a turnaround

I'm literally the RL version of the miller role  I don't think I've ever gone a game without being lynched before the elims kill me

So, turning my eye to possible future lynches:

10 minutes ago, Yitzi2 said:

Keep in mind, I'm the one who came up with the plan we're using to avoid more UIB deaths due to Cytonics.  So unless you think I gave the village a good plan just in order to disguise myself...

Elims can suggest ideas that seem good also. And this particular idea might actually suit the elims nicely, cause it opens up the possibility of a lot of interesting mind games.

[BrightnessRadiant she/her]

9 minutes ago, Drake Marshall said:

I'm literally the RL version of the miller role  I don't think I've ever gone a game without being lynched before the elims kill me

Well that sound depressing lol 

I think I've only played one other game with you so far that's finished and that was LG33 and I was suspicious of you the whole time until you died, and you were village in that game so that's another reason I'm doubting your elimness lol (but I guess I'll just have to wait and see)

[Jondesu he/him]

45 minutes ago, Yitzi2 said:

Keep in mind, I'm the one who came up with the plan we're using to avoid more UIB deaths due to Cytonics.  So unless you think I gave the village a good plan just in order to disguise myself...

Yeah, speaking as someone who has tried to do that as an Elim...I could believe it. Not saying I think you did, but it's possible.

41 minutes ago, BrightnessRadiant said:

Is quoting better than tagging lol 

I don't think trying to get people involved in the lynch by tagging them is mayoring?  this is a QF and moves incredibly fast and everyone's posting has slacked off incredibly since the LG started so I'm trying to get them to come back to this game.

Yeah, mayoring is a weird thing to accuse you of for that...you weren't telling people what to do or what plan to follow, just asking them to participate.

Cluny, I was wary of you, but with that comment it sounds like you're trying to push people away from joining the lynch, which isn't a good thing at all.

[BrightnessRadiant she/her]

47 minutes ago, Jondesu said:

Yeah, mayoring is a weird thing to accuse you of for that...you weren't telling people what to do or what plan to follow, just asking them to participate.

Yeah I thought it was weird too *shrugs