Oversleep Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 A twin thread to the DCCU thread; here is a fresh Doctor Strange trailer: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoxicalZen Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 That looks like an acid trip but so awesome! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pestis the Spider Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 This loooks awesome. I can't wait. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delightful Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 That cape flick near the end was awesome. And the wifi looks a little Inception-y and I'm curious how it'll mesh with the rest of MCU. I wonder if Scarlet Witch's powers are kind of related. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pestis the Spider Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 As far as I understand Scarlet Witch got her powers from the Mind Stone in MCU. So I think these are more like superpowers. And Dr. Strange is supposed to have actual magic powers. Like Harry Potter, but cooler. So I don't think their powers are related. They never were in the comics, but MCU went far away from the comics, so we'll see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delightful Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) I guess i figure she's just less sciency than the others? also, is it just me or does the 'death' guy look kinda like a Steel Inquisitor? also also, MCU has other worlds, aliens, gods, inhumans, space travel, mind stones, now actual magic? How does this universe not break from all the crazy? Edited July 25, 2016 by Delightful 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pestis the Spider Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Well, she got super telekinetic powers, so I don't think she's that far. As for magic, I don't know. Maybe they'll explain it somehow with more Infinity Stones, black matter or some other space stuff. Maybe it's just powers too awesome to explain in scientific terms. But it is still magic, generally speaking. Dr. Strange is the Sorcerer Supreme after all. You know, the moment I wait most in the MCU is when Avengers finally meet GotG and Strange. I really want to see Stark's reaction to magic and talking racoons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delightful Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Hahaha Stark and Rocket would be explosive and hilarious. Or kinda sad. And imagine Natasha's face when she sees Groot. "Is that.....a walking tree?!" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claincy Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Delightful said: I guess i figure she's just less sciency than the others? also, is it just me or does the 'death' guy look kinda like a Steel Inquisitor? also also, MCU has other worlds, aliens, gods, inhumans, space travel, mind stones, now actual magic? How does this universe not break from all the crazy? Heh, I'd say the Marvel comics universe does break, with alarming frequency Give the MCU time.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiver Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 I think I remember reading that Ant Man was hinting at the magic side of things, by having him shrink to such microscopic levels like towards the end. So the idea might be that magic is, sort of, like..the deepest, most underlying level of reality? Thor already said that in Asgard, science and magic are considered the same, so... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondesu Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Dr Strange is rumored to have or get an Infinity Stone (Soul Gem? Not sure which one), which I thought was related to some of his powers, but definitely didn't seem even hinted at in the trailer. Still looks ridiculously cool (and I actually laughed out loud when The Operative gave him the wifi password). jW 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mestiv Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 I wonder how many people will get sick in the cinemas around the world watching those crazy reality bending effects 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pestis the Spider Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Jondesu said: Dr Strange is rumored to have or get an Infinity Stone (Soul Gem? Not sure which one), which I thought was related to some of his powers, but definitely didn't seem even hinted at in the trailer. Still looks ridiculously cool (and I actually laughed out loud when The Operative gave him the wifi password). jW I heard that it was the Time Gem and that was supposed to explain some time bending powers or something. O.o 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Ascendant Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 7 hours ago, Pestis the Spider said: As far as I understand Scarlet Witch got her powers from the Mind Stone in MCU. So I think these are more like superpowers. And Dr. Strange is supposed to have actual magic powers. Like Harry Potter, but cooler. So I don't think their powers are related. They never were in the comics, but MCU went far away from the comics, so we'll see. He gets his powers by tapping into the mystic powers of Agamotto as well as the other Ancients. Marvel has alot of overlapping and clashing idea and yet seems to remain as a great universe. 7 hours ago, Delightful said: I guess i figure she's just less sciency than the others? also, is it just me or does the 'death' guy look kinda like a Steel Inquisitor? also also, MCU has other worlds, aliens, gods, inhumans, space travel, mind stones, now actual magic? How does this universe not break from all the crazy? That's why they need the One Above All, The Celestials, The Gardners, The Living Tribunal etc etc to keep order in such a chaotic world. 7 hours ago, Pestis the Spider said: Well, she got super telekinetic powers, so I don't think she's that far. As for magic, I don't know. Maybe they'll explain it somehow with more Infinity Stones, black matter or some other space stuff. Maybe it's just powers too awesome to explain in scientific terms. But it is still magic, generally speaking. Dr. Strange is the Sorcerer Supreme after all. You know, the moment I wait most in the MCU is when Avengers finally meet GotG and Strange. I really want to see Stark's reaction to magic and talking racoons. Not really telekinetic powers. More so like Firefight. She literally BREAKS reality There won't be any more infinity stones. Black Matter is something else entirely and magic in Marvel is just that MAGIC! 4 hours ago, Quiver said: I think I remember reading that Ant Man was hinting at the magic side of things, by having him shrink to such microscopic levels like towards the end. So the idea might be that magic is, sort of, like..the deepest, most underlying level of reality? Thor already said that in Asgard, science and magic are considered the same, so... Hey any technology advance enough can be considered magic Idk who said that or if the quote is correct :/ I think Magic is basically a Primal power, perhaps the remaining energy from the Big Bang somehow gained sentience, not developed or created but harnessed. 1 hour ago, Jondesu said: Dr Strange is rumored to have or get an Infinity Stone (Soul Gem? Not sure which one), which I thought was related to some of his powers, but definitely didn't seem even hinted at in the trailer. Still looks ridiculously cool (and I actually laughed out loud when The Operative gave him the wifi password). jW Yep! You got it! Doctor Strange is a member of the Illuminati (no joke) which in Marvel is a group of superheroes that guard the Infinity Stones. I'm not sure if that's the right stone that Doctor Strange gets but the rest of the Illuminati consist of: Black Bolt (CAN'T WAIT FOR INHUMANS!!), Charles Xavier (already hinted in Deadpool), Reed Richards (this one is gonna take some work to get the Fantastic Four's rights back to Marvel), Namor the sub-mariner (King of Atlantis) and, of course, Tony Stark, the Invincible Iron-Man himself. Also speaking of Illuminati perhaps this hints about their other activities and what will happen in MCU after Infinity War, namely the Kree-Skrull war, Hulk getting kicked off Earth, The Skrull Invasion and SENTRY!!!! For those of you who don't know, the Sentry is a being even more powerful than Superman but just as cracky as the Joker, HE, HONEST TO FRIGG RIPPED ARES IN HALF DURING SEIGE. Omg MCU is gonna get ALOT more hectic. Tony Stark will be kicked off Stark-industries and will become a vigilante on the run etc etc Just now, Pestis the Spider said: I heard that it was the Time Gem and that was supposed to explain some time bending powers or something. O.o Hey, Time is a subjective reality so perhaps he will get it considering that Magic is a subjective concept ALL HAIL THE MYSTICAL POWER OF THE EYE OF AGAMOTTO AND TOGETHER WE SHALL BANISH THE DARK LIGHT OF DORMAMMU! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pestis the Spider Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) @Darkness Ascendant Just remember that MCU is totally separate from Marvel Comics, so we can't really say anything about Dr. Strange based on his comics. We need to wait for the movie to come out to be sure that the producers don't change his magic into god-knows-what. Edit: Also Xavier and Deadpool are separate universe from MCU. MCU doesn't have rights to the X-men and these movies are made by Fox, not by Marvel Studios, as far as I remember. Edited July 25, 2016 by Pestis the Spider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Ascendant Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Pestis the Spider said: @Darkness Ascendant Just remember that MCU is totally separate from Marvel Comics, so we can't really say anything about Dr. Strange based on his comics. We need to wait for the movie to come out to be sure that the producers don't change his magic into god-knows-what. I do know that. It's just the trailers really fit in the comics, I am quite aware of the differences too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magestar Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 So far, the MCU has tried to keep things as sciency as possible. Even if it means making up scientific gobbledegook so that Thor can still be sciency. So, I think it will be interesting to see how they deal with Doctor Strange. Personally, I think that they will do a lot of 'power summoned from other dimensions' and 'ancient being whose power we need not explain... gives Doc his powers' or possibly 'He has strength of mind and soul and thus... stuff'. I also see the Eye of Agamotto being a Infinity Stone. Just because they like keeping things tied together. If so, they may just toss all the magic stuff out the window and say 'Infinity Stone MacGuffin, made up science, now go.' As for Scarlet Witch, I thought she, in the comics anyway, was, to use a Cosmere analogy, a mega Soul-Stamp. She messed with Reality on a probability scale, the more probable her changes, the easier they are to accomplish. So on and so forth. In the MCU, it seems more like she has advanced scale telekinesis, as well as some cool color effects to go with it. (I love superpowers that just make things look cooler. Altering Reality to have cooler looking stuff that is scientifically impossible. The Blob could manipulate Gravity in the comics, simply because a Ground Slam would not work in RL physics. ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoxicalZen Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 When, Eternity (cosmic being) I think was hinted at in Ant-man when Rudd went subatomic but I never saw anything. Did anyone else see the highlight from GotG 2? They revealed Peter Quill's father....and I'm very surprised at the direction they're taking it (if its actually true ofc). Cool to see Kurt Russell is playing him though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pestis the Spider Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 53 minutes ago, ParadoxSpren said: Did anyone else see the highlight from GotG 2? They revealed Peter Quill's father....and I'm very surprised at the direction they're taking it (if its actually true ofc). Cool to see Kurt Russell is playing him though Where can I find it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoxicalZen Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 20 minutes ago, Pestis the Spider said: Where can I find it? I saw it in text on a James Gunn post on Facebook, I'll try grab the link (it has some minor spoils for the film so forewarning) https://m.facebook.com/jgunn/photos/a.216126946156.142629.48103536156/10153490064721157/?type=3&source=48 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted August 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 I've recently watched Age Of Ultron (finally!). My question is: how did Mind Stone end up in Loki's scepter? How did he obtain it? How did he make it so it's linked to the power of Tesseract (IIRC that's what they said in first Avengers)? Did he even know about it? In retrospect, it all makes sense since Loki did mind control by touching people with his sceptre, but at the time I thought it's related to his god powers. Also, Quicksilver's death was a little soul-wretching. I was in denial the whole scene until he died. I thought that maybe he made it in time to move Hawkeye and the kid... then I thought he'd just regenerate (hey, power of speed after all!)... Highlight of the movie: Hawkeye. Made the film for me. Also, I really liked those scenes when Ultron accidentialy wounds people and then is all apologetic. It delivers the point that he's a very young being which does not know its own strength. Last but not least: CONTINUITY! I love the way Marvel builds on established plot points - how the whole thing originates from Loki's scepter, all the characters that showed up on the party and referenced events of other movies (like Falcon), twins backstory with Stark's bomb and so on. P.S: Oh, and the fact that when Thor sees a vision induced by an enhanced human, he dips into mystical magic water pool to see it again. Magic, science, superpowers, all the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC01 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 I may be wrong, but I think that Thanos had the Mind Stone and lent it to Loki to aid in acquiring the Tesseract. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunbird Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 I'm pretty sure @DSC01 is right about where Loki got the Mind Stone. I seem to recall that in the first Avengers movie (or possibly during the post-credits blurb) we hear Thanos berating some underling about Loki being incompetent, which would imply that Thanos put him up to trying to take over the Earth. Although that seems like a bit of an odd move for Thanos to entrust the Stone to someone else, given that he's trying to collect all the Infinity Stones. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted August 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 @Sunbird, that's why I'm asking - I thought it would have been odd of Thanos to lend out one of Infinity Stones just like that. Since he's gathering them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delightful Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) Warning: sad AoU spoiler joke whats Caps shield made out of? vibranium whats Hawkeyes shield made out of? Quicksilver [/spoiler] best part was Cap and language! Do you speak to your mother with that mouth? hang on. The tesseract is not a mind stone? Then what is it? Edited August 9, 2016 by Delightful 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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