Zas678 he/him Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 I for one don't have any items. And yes, I meant 1st day lynch, not 1st day lunch. Bugsy, I'm still waiting to hear from you....
Bugsy he/him Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) I for one don't have any items. And yes, I meant 1st day lynch, not 1st day lunch. Bugsy, I'm still waiting to hear from you.... Look 2 posts above yours Edited June 12, 2016 by Bugsy6912
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 I've thought of at least one way to clear people. If you know who passes you an item, and you can't pass an item and kill in the same turn, then anyone who passes an item is automatically cleared. So... it'd take a lot of coordination, but I definitely think it'd be worth it. Everyone pass their item to the next person down the player list, or something along those lines. Then everyone who passed an item is basically cleared of being the killer (unless there were two eliminators next to each other, which is possible, so we'd have to do it multiple times in different orders to be sure), giving us a much narrower search pool. Anyone see any obvious flaws? (Also, Ripple may want to nix this. Not sure how game-breaking it is, since it depends on the number of items in play, but it does seem a bit strong.) I don't have an item, and at least one other person doesn't have an item as well. So that's an obvious flaw. By starting it. It's not something I would vote on you for, and this discussion isn't very productive so let's drop it. I disagree about this discussion not being productive. It gives people a read on us. Anyways, I like the passing items strategy. I can comfirm I have an item, so I can be part of it. Who doesn't currently have an item? Please post publicly in thread so you can be given one by someome who has 2 items (if anyone does). Please do claim, so we don't mislynch you for not passing when you have an item I've already told a few people that I don't have an item, so I'll confirm that here. Elbereth's plan has two major flaws that I an see: 1: it cycles the items through the hands of the players. If the Eliminators don't have a knife, they'll support this plan and quite possibly get one. 2: It requires there to be a lot of items in the game. And any eliminators starting with an item have no reason to pass theirs, when they can just claim they didn't start with one.
DeathClutch19 he/him Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 Hello everyone! I didn't realize the game started last night so i'm here now! Ill read through the past couple pages and give my thoughts later after i've had some breakfast
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 Player list: 1. Elodin - Has posted a bit. Suspicious of first voters but hasn't voted on any of them? 2. Joe - Been talkative as usual. Village read from the start, but not too much, given he's often talkative even if he's an eliminator. 3. phattemer - Was online when the game started, but didn't post. 4. Mailliw - Posted once to explain focus on LG22. Mailliw, I'd still like to hear more from you. 5. Cloudjumper - Was online just a couple hours ago, but never posted? 6. Conquestor - Was just online not that long ago, but hasn't posted. This is a bit surprising to me, given Conq is generally a pretty talkative player and he has a vote on him. Conq, been busy in a doc maybe? 7. Winter - Has not been online since the game started. I took too long to type this post out. Village lean on her for same reasons as Bugsy. 8. Lopen 9. Elbereth - Posted an interesting idea that probably won't work at this point, but makes me lean village for her I think. (Just a little) 10. Sart - His post about using Knives right away makes me lean village on him. 11. Mckeedee - Odd "plan" to test Joe's alignment. I'm a little suspicious of him right now, but not a ton. More, curious. 12. Bard - Gut village read so far. 13. Zas - Gut eliminator read. Not sure why. 14. DC - Nothing alignment telling so far, unless him and Mckeedee are both evil and were talking in a doc and that's why Mckeedee said he had an item, but that seems kinda unlikely to me. 15. Bugsy - Agreed to Elbereth's plan. Seems more like a villager to me right now. Reason being that as an eliminator, he'd be less likely to want to pass his item or do a plan that could hurt his team in any way. 16. SilverDragon - Has not been online since the game started. 17. Aman - Has not been online since the game started. At this point, we can either lynch a player who hasn't posted even though they've been online, a player who's done something mildly suspicious, or not have a lynch. What do you guys think we should do? I do think a lynch would be best.
Elbereth she/her Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 Very quickly, since I have to go momentarily and might not be on for the rest of the cycle - I think the plan is still viable. If the plan goes off without a hitch, we know that one of the people who claimed not to have an item made the kill. Which still reduces the pool. And yes, I'm talking about every item. In my opinion, the benefits of having a rather reduced pool of suspects outweighs the benefit of the eliminators getting a kill or silver dust. Particularly when at least one person will know that that person has that item. So I still think we should do it, but it's up to the thread. I have family coming today, so I might be on for tiny moments, but I also have to divide those snatches of time with LG22 as well, so... don't expect to see much from me for the rest of the cycle.
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 In my opinion, the biggest problem with your plan is coordination. This is a QF, which is a very tough setup to get any kind of complete group coordination. We could still try it I suppose, but I don't think we'd be able to do it this Cycle at least, since it's already pretty late and some players probably won't get on again.
Bugsy he/him Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 Even if we just pass now, we can eliminate from the pool whoever participates, and raise our chances of a success on C2 at least slightly. Everyone with an item, please pass it. We'll hopefully have better coordination on C2, but since items don't change or disappear after they're passed (only after they're used), we can track their paths and hopefully analyze that. Plus, it'll work just as well C2 when you don't have an item. The only motive to be opposed to passing your item this cycle is to make yourself less suspicious next turn (when there's more participation) at the cost of losing information, which hurts the village and would only really benefit the elims 1
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 Since it may be that the eliminators have yet to send in their kill, I'll post who's been online since this moment and everyone can either pass an item or say what they can do to prove their Action and maybe we can get a pool of suspects from that? I've got an item and will pass it to the player above me(Winter).
Elbereth she/her Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 I have an item and am passing it to Lopen.
Sart he/him Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) Vote tally: Zas (0): Joe[1] Bard (0): Lopen[1] Conq (2): Bard[1], Bard[3], Lopen[3] Elodin (0): Joe[2] Bugsy (1): Zas[1] Cloud (0): Bard[2] McKeedee (1): Joe[3], Sart[1] Amanuesis (1): Joe[4] SilverDragon (0): Lopen[2] As of right now Conq is being lynched, but no one seems to be talking about it. That always strikes me as suspicious. While discussion and planning is very important, the lynch is just as important. Given that no one is talking about Conq, that strikes me as a bit suspicious. He has been active in the Long Game, but hasn't posted here. That's the only evidence we have right now. It's a pretty flimsy case, especially considering others have viewed the thread and haven't posted. I'd like to hear more from McKeedee. How exactly was your test of Joe supposed to work? Edited June 12, 2016 by Sart
Bugsy he/him Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 Oh, and Zas, I'd appreciate if you took that vote off of me, considering you said you would when you heard from me but still haven't.
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 Why are two players passing to Lopen?
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) Vote tally: Zas (0): Joe[1] Bard (0): Lopen[1] Conq (2): Bard[1], Bard[3], Lopen[3] Elodin (0): Joe[2] Bugsy (1): Zas[1] Cloud (0): Bard[2] McKeedee (1): Joe[3], Sart[1] Amanuesis (1): Joe[4] SilverDragon (0): Lopen[2] As of right now Conq is being lynched, but no one seems to be talking about it. That always strikes me as suspicious. While discussion and planning is very important, the lynch is just as important. Given that no one is talking about Conq, that strikes me as a bit suspicious. He has been active in the Long Game, but hasn't posted here. That's the only evidence we have right now. It's a pretty flimsy case, especially considering others have viewed the thread and haven't posted. I'd like to hear more from McKeedee. How exactly was your test of Joe supposed to work? I agree with you there. Planning is nice, but the lynch is gonna be our main source of information. So let's get some more focus on that please everyone? I will pass to Lopen. Winter, you're supposed to be passing it to the player above you. Although in your case, it's Conq, and he's getting lynched right now. So, maybe pass to Joe, since he doesn't have an item? Edit: Yo, cloudjumper, please tell me you're not evil for the 3rd straight game? Edited June 12, 2016 by TheMightyLopen
cloudjumper he/him Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 I agree with you there. Planning is nice, but the lynch is gonna be our main source of information. So let's get some more focus on that please everyone? Winter, you're supposed to be passing it to the player above you. Although in your case, it's Conq, and he's getting lynched right now. So, maybe pass to Joe, since he doesn't have an item? Edit: Yo, cloudjumper, please tell me you're not evil for the 3rd straight game? I'm afraid not. This time I am completely innocent. By the way, I have no items.
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 Conq has spoken in our PM. He said he was suspicious of meta and thought I would be corrupted soon. Then he said he didn't have a lot of time to talk.
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 Minor glitch with the plan. I'm gonna be at church when the Cycle ends, so I won't be able to post about who's online and such. So if someone else could do that just prior to rollover, that'd be great. It takes a bit of time, but it comes in handy occasionally. Or just don't do it, if you don't feel like it.
Sart he/him Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) Vote tally: Zas (0): Joe[1] Bard (0): Lopen[1] Conq (2): Bard[1], Bard[3], Lopen[3] Elodin (0): Joe[2] Bugsy (1): Zas[1] Cloud (0): Bard[2] McKeedee (0): Joe[3], Sart[1] Amanuesis (1): Joe[4], Sart[2] SilverDragon (0): Lopen[2] The cycle is ending soon, but I'm the only one who's bloody on! In addition, no other votes have been cast. Conquestor has said he's busy in an unrelated PM to Joe. Thus, the argument of him being a Traitor only in his doc doesn't seem very likely to me. The cycle is ending soon, but no one seems to care. It's frustrating. I would rather not lynch a player for doing nothing, so I'm removing my vote on McKeedee (I'm still suspicious of you, but this is more important) and putting it on Amanuesis. Sorry, but I don't believe in Day 1 lynches, especially on this flimsy of evidence. Edited June 12, 2016 by Sart
Zas678 he/him Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 Sorry Bugsy. I didn't see you there, and just barely got back on. As for a day 1 lynch... I'll go with Amanuesis. Sorry, but this is one of the ways we get information.
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) Sorry, forgot to remove my vote. On my way to church now. Conquestor Edit: sus post Zas. Edited June 12, 2016 by TheMightyLopen
Conquestor he/him Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) Sorry I haven't talked yet, I have had church and friends over. I have been able to check the forum for a few minutes so and so, but have not stayed on long enough to post anything yet. I haven't read the entire forum yet, but have seen the votes on me, so, please don't kill me. I have started with an item and sorry Aman , but I want to save my own skin. Edit : Ninja'd! Edited June 12, 2016 by Conquestor
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted June 13, 2016 Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) Hm. At this point Amanuensis is getting lynched. And he hasn't even been online. This will be a boring Writeup to do. Ah well. Conq has posted at least. When does the cycle end? EDIT: Bugsy, sart, Lopen Zas, conq and Joe are online at rollover. Edited June 13, 2016 by The Only Joe
Bugsy he/him Posted June 13, 2016 Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) Thanks, Zas! Oh, and Con, please pass your item to Cloud Edit: Oh, has rollover passed? My bad Edited June 13, 2016 by Bugsy6912
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