PallonianFire he/him Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) During Kelsier's spying on the Ire, we get this little tidbit: "Bah," said a seated man who held a cup of glowing liquid. "You always jump at stories, Alonoe. Not every coincidence is a sign of someone drawing upon Fortune." As far as I can remember, I've never seen fortune capitalized or used in the context of actively implementing it as a power. New Shard, perhaps? Edited January 28, 2016 by PallonianFire 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChimeraRuin Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Struck me as meaning Chromium Feruchemy, storing fortune. Which, if the Ire are worried about Threnodites, perhaps their magic involves a similar fortune power. Edited January 28, 2016 by ChimeraRuin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium she/her Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 I thought the exact thing when I read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PallonianFire he/him Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Oh, right, Feruchemy. Duh. Yeah, you're probably right. But it would be really cool (and would make a fair amount of sense) if Fortune were another Shard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium she/her Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 I would still consider it a possibility. Just because it would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PallonianFire he/him Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 And because I'm impatient and want to know ALL THE THINGS at THIS VERY MOMENT. Ha. The fact that we still don't know the Intents of, what, seven of the Shards? Frustrating. It would make sense for him to reveal another one at this stage, considering how much he opened up the Cosmere with this novella. That's assuming he's not counting Autonomy as that reveal, since I guess this is the first time it's been mentioned on the actual page. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagerunner he/him Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 It's interesting how it's the Ire talking about Fortune; they're not from Scadrial, so why would they be talking about Feruchemy? But it appears the four attributes that Spiritual Feruchemy stores - Connection, Investiture, Fortune, and Identity - are present throughout the cosmere, and they're not just obscure Feruchemical powers. Especially since we saw that Connection is a huge part of the Spiritual Realm. I wonder how other Magic Systems deal with Connection, Fortune, and Identity... the Moon Scepter altering your Connection is one possibility. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium she/her Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 That's a good point. I would love to have had a new shard name dropped though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagerunner he/him Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 That's a good point. I would love to have had a new shard name dropped though. Well, this is the first time we've seen Devotion and Autonomy included outside of WoB. So... better than nothing, I guess? But, yeah, it would have been cool if either Khriss or the Ire had mentioned a new Shard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium she/her Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 True, but I feel like we've known about Devotion for so long, and Autonomy was just made mention of recently. It's not even a nitpick, I was just so excited to read that capitalized word, but now I'm deflated still one of the best things Brandon has written. I suppose I'll just have to go speculate on the Vax name drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chaos he/him Posted January 29, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 I have asked if Fortune is a Shard in my signed copy of Bands. It hasn't arrived yet, but I will let you know. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium she/her Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 My hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blightsong he/him Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 I doubt that Fortune is a shard. All other shards are personality aspects, while this one is a non-personality trait, or a myth (depending on who you talk to). It just doesn't seem in line with the text and makes sense in context as a Feruchemical power, or something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sovereign Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 In another scene we may have got another shard's name. Leras at one point makes a comment about failing against Ati and addresses his curse to Senna. Another Shardholder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari he/him Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Sounded like Senna was someone Leras cared about very much who died. It's likely what influenced him towards taking Preservation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium she/her Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Senna seemed to me as a lost love, but stranger things have happened. Maybe even another shardholder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent he/him Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 I can't reconcile Fortune being a Shard with what we understand about the Shards'... natures. All of the ones we know of are about an action or state of mind. Fortune doesn't fit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium she/her Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 I am tending to agree based on all the arguments against it. Boo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PallonianFire he/him Posted January 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Yep, I just completely forgot about the Feruchemical aspect when I posted. I was too excited by all the new info... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwelfthOfSnackTime he/him Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 It might have been an offhand remark about Hoid. Isn't there a WOB that says that he uses Feruchemy to be in important places? It has been theorized that he's using Fortune (Luck) to be at the right place at the right time for his shenanigans. They mention this basically saying not every thing that goes bump in the Cognitive realm is the Boogyman Hoid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokomis Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Some say that you make your own fortunes in life. It could perhaps be a trait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zmann966 he/him Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) While I agree mostly with "Fortune isnt a Shard." I do have to make an argument against it.Exactly as Nokomis just stated above, Fortune is more than just pure luck an happenstance. Especially in a universe where "thought creates fact" and we have physical examples of Sentient Thought > Cognitive Acceptance > Cognitive Aspects > New Sentience > True Physical Fact.I still say Fortune is not a Shard.But I, for one, think bearing has a lot more influence in the cosmere than many give it credit for. "I think, therefore I am." seems to perfectly describe Shardic Intent (and vice-versa) Not really Spoiler Bands of Mourning: Also kinda backs up Steris' mentality. Her "woe unto me" compounds upon itself. If Fortune is a Feruchemical Spiritual aspect, along the lines of Identity, Investiture, and Connection, it definitely has more power (and potential) than simple luck. Edited January 30, 2016 by Zmann966 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari he/him Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Some say that you make your own fortunes in life. It could perhaps be a trait. What you're talking about would probably be better named Determination, however. That's the thing, for every Shard intent I can think of that Fortune could represent, there are much better synonyms that would make a better Shard name. I'm pretty sure they were either talking about the Feruchemical attribute, or a similar effect in a different magic system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyrindor he/him Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Maybe Fortune is a very large splinter of a Shard, large enough to have its own sprout-off Intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AerionBFII he/him Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 They might not have been on Scadrial but think they were talking Fortune Feruchemy but i also thought Trell was Autonomy so what the hell do i know ... Senna seems more of an unrequited love, he didn't strike me as much of a ladies man... But seriously i think maybe Senna was something tied to a religious figure from before the Shattering of Adonalsium. Most of Brandons in world cursing is tied to figures in religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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