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Cycle Six: Involuntary Secondhand Manslaughter

Perseus sat on the air above the throne, watching the action with great interest. Although there weren't many of his subjects left- nearly half were dead- the remaining ones were still arguing just as furiously. Only four of the ten had bothered to make a case at all, but no two of them agreed. Oh wait- Tyler just changed his mind. Despite the last minute switcheroo, he would have had Lanky killed anyway. Steph was just too persuasive for her own good: one of these days she might finger herself as the one to blame. He dismissed the irrelevant thought and stood.

"Lanky! You have been found guilty by a trial of your peers! Is there anything you'd like to say in your defense?" Lanky stood.

"Even if you're killing me, I'm still going to go... out... with... a... BANG!" A small sphere streaked toward Ken, who made no attempt to dodge. Looking closer, Perseus would have gasped, if he ever gasped. There was a knife sticking out of his neck! Ken was already dead! The sphere continued on its path inexorably, and struck its target in the face. The antimatter- for that's what was inside- exploded. The world turned white and loud. Luckily, the same person who'd directed the earlier blast threw up a forcefield and sent the explosion, with the body, up and out through the hole in the roof left by Calamity's swift exit. Once everyone there recovered, Perseus sent a minion to search his rooms. If Ken had been a Reckoner, there would be something to incriminate him there. The man returned, crestfallen. Nothing. Blast it. What would it take to find one of them? They couldn't be hidden that well, could they? He rounded on Steph.

"Why were you so sure about Lanky? What do you know that we don't?" She looked teary and perplexed.

"But I- I liked Lanky. I would never vote for him!"

"You just did."

"But I was pointing to no one! I didn't want anybody to die!"

"Hmph. Looks like you're going to be charged with involuntary secondhand manslaughter. You have the right to remain silent. Anyone you vote can be changed against you. Do you have any questions?"

"I never wanted this. Please, just let me go free." she said. Steph just looked sad, not angry or vengeful. She had a good argument too. If she hadn't wanted to do it, then why should she pay the price?

"Fine. Go. But I better not see you doing this again..."


Clanky(Lanky) was lynched! He was an Epic with Matter Disruption and Accelerated Healing!
Elkanah(Ken) was killed! He was an Epic with Invisibility and Heat Vision!
queensteph(Steph) was charged with involuntary secondhand manslaughter, but found innocent!

Vote Tally:
Clanky: 3; queensteph, Lopen
Lopen: 1; Clanky
RippleGylf: 1; Kipper

Spectator Sports:
Hellscythe received a potted oleander plant from Cultivation!


Orlok was not seen this cycle and Perseus is getting annoyed...

Edited by Alvron
Posted

Two more? :( This is bad. Lopen, need I mention that your vote on Clanky was really sudden, and really suspicious? I thought you were alright before, but that was not alright. Lopen, I'm sorry. You've condemned yourself.

Posted

OK, Lopen. Idk what you've been doing with your power, but it certainly hasn't helped the Epics.

I didn't want to do this, but desperate times call for desperate measures.

Lopen has Forcefields (unless he has Heat Vision) and we haven't seen much protection going on. It's not something huge to go off of but there aren't many players left and we need to get rid of the Reckoners before they get rid of us! Lopen, do you have anything to say about this? (Sorry for outing your power I know you hate when people do that but I don't know what else I can do :( )

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Okay, so here we have a pretty clear bandwagon on Lopen. My suspicion is that the Eliminator team at this point consists of queensteph, Kamyle, and BB/PK/Ripple/Lopen/nobody (depending on how many Eliminators they have).

I've suspected queensteph for a while now, as I mentioned earlier when I called her out for stepping up and just confirming everything that PK said without providing any new results herself. My guess is that Kamyle (probably) has the Illusions ability, and the Eliminator team has been having queensteph not vote, and then Kamyle manipulates queensteph's vote, to make it look like queensteph is being forced to vote. They tried to distance themselves from this strategy last time by having queensteph innocently ask, "oh, there's an ability that can move votes?" And Kamyle immediately coming in and saying, "Go check the rules, or maybe it's GM error."

Thinking about it, I'm willing to bet that there is another Eliminator besides those two, because Kamyle came in after the game started, and I can't see the GM only giving the Eliminators two.

Lopen: Has hung back, as someone pointed out. However, I strongly doubt that the Eliminator is him, because it makes virtually zero sense for the Eliminators to kill one of their own at this point in the game. However, there is the vote change at the very end of the cycle. Why did you do that, Lopen?

Bridge Boy: Have expressed my suspicions of him. Thenonly time he's made any attempt at strategizing or offering game-related discussion is when someone expressed suspicion of him. I'd say he's the top on my list for the third Eliminator.

Paranoid King: Vote-switched a lot a few cycles ago. A lot. Even so, he has Magnified Persuasion, so if he's an Eliminator, this post is pointless and we're all done for, because I'm pretty sure quensteph has it too.

Ripple: I'm beginning to doubt myself on this one, especially as Bridge Boy has become more and more suspicious to me.

Orlok: Haven't been able to get a good read on him all game. It would make sense for at least one experienced player to be on the team, so I guess he shares BB's spot for top on my suspect list.

Suggestion: We lynch queensteph, getting her Magnified Persuasion out of the way.

Lopen, if you actually do have Force Fields, protect Paranoid King, who has Magnified Persuasion and Invisibility (we need that MagPer for next round, and again, if PK is an Eliminator, we're practically done for anyway).

PK, follow Orlok or Bridge Boy, doesn't matter which one. I suspect that one of them will have to put in the kill, because if the Eliminators have any hope of escaping the lynch, they'll need Kamyle to manipulate a vote somewhere. So if you follow Bridge Boy and he doesn't in the kill, Orlok is probably evil, and vice versa.

Suspected Lynch tally:

(6) Queensteph: Kipper, Lopen, Orlok or Bridge Boy, Paranoid King, Ripple

(4) Lopen: Queensteph, Kamyle, Orlok or Bridge Boy (whichever one didn't go for queensteph)

I'll come out and say it now, I have Transmogrification. So I'll Soothe queensteph, and Kamyle will likely move PK's vote to Lopen.

That brings us to a tie on each, which is a coin flip, so it would be great to know now if Lopen has Enhanced Relationships or anyone has any sort of previously undeclared vote manipulation ability.

It's late and I'm about to go to bed, but if I haven't missed something, and we can survive this lynch, we can pull a win out. I worry that I'm missing something, so someone check my math.

Right now it's 3 to 5, imo.

If we survive this lynch, it goes 2 to 4, which we should be able to pull off. Again, someone check my math, because I don't like how confident Kamyle and queensteph are right now.

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I think this is the longest SE post I've ever made, and all from my humble tablet. :P

Posted (edited)

I don't see how 2 votes is "clearly a bandwagon" especially since I'm the second person that voted and since like 2 cycles ago I've been publicly suspicous of Lopen.

Please don't kill me. I wouldn't say this except for the fact that there's not many players left and I know it'd be wasting the lynch on an Epic(me). I didn't say what any of my results were because almost 3/6(?) times I scanned someone they ended up dead in the new cycle so it was already public info. If you'd like I could list all of the players I've scanned and what the results were. I don't see how it would help much though.

Edit:

The reason I never voted was because of my Magnified Persuasion because I felt like it had too much power and since never had a solid enough suspicion to get someone lynched I didn't put in my vote since I didn't want to be the cause of an Epics death. The first time someone used Illusions on me I just thought it was a GM error. Then it happened again and I was still confused, but Phatt confirmed with me that it wasn't an error in PM / and then he posted about the Illusions ability in thread.

Edited by queensteph
Posted (edited)

I didn't say what any of my results were because almost 3/6(?) times I scanned someone they ended up dead in the new cycle so it was already public info.

Awfully convenient that the people you supposedly Scanned happened to die...if you have a list, why not put it in that post?

Edit to respond to queensteph's edit: I'm still not sure, though. I'm fairly convinced that you're an Eliminator, based on looking at the whole game. Phatt will probably make clarifications anytime someone asks in thread, regardless of whether they know the information or not.

Edited by Guest
Posted

Okay, yes, I do have Forcefields. I will think about protecting PK(hey eliminators! IKYKIKYK......  B))

 

@Kipper, The only reason I've "hung back" is because my access to a laptop has been really random(which I use to play SE, because it is SO much easier to look over things on a laptop than on mobile). I tried to analyze things last Cycle, but specifically left Clanky as Neutral, because I was hoping he wouldn't attack me(because with my belief that Clanky was a Reckoner, they had the power to double tap me and kill me even if I was protecting myself). I believed Clanky was a Reckoner because of his Matter Disruption(and my role as Epic Forcefield user, and seeing as Kynedath was an Epic Forcefield user, I believed the Reckoners had a MD, because Elbereth was an Epic MD and Ada was a SK, which isn't a Reckoner, but is certainly dangerous for us Epics. I also had thought that Arraenae's MD had been Gifted to her, which is why I thought that Clanky was the one who started as a Reckoner MD. I'm not sure why Arraenae didn't use her MD much, but I'm starting to think the Reckoners were going for a long con, and they decided to use her invisibility to find out important roles, at which point Arraenae could then begin to use her kill role alongside the Reckoner kill.) I voted based off of roles, and for that I'm very sorry.  :(

 

I'll do some more in depth analysis tomorrow for myself, to try and figure out who the remaining Reckoners are. I'm thinking there may be only 2 more, since Arraenae had so many abilities. I'm really hoping there's only 2, but I suppose it is a possibility that there is 3. I'm still suspicious of BB, but his defense last Cycle seemed to ring true to me. At least enough that I felt I should move my vote to Clanky. I certainly do not like that Steph seems to be focusing on me like this. I'm sorry I haven't been able to block an attack yet, but I don't think that's a reason to kill me(especially now that I have a much higher chance of blocking an attack. Right now, Kamyle(for voting alongside me last Cycle, which I'm now viewing as her trying to get on my good side by agreeing with me. But now, she's voting on me and, while I understand my vote on Clanky was suspicious, seems to be overstating how suspicious it was, and so seems to be trying to instigate a bandwagon on me.), QueenSteph(for constantly going after me, for pretty much no reason.) and any of these BB/PK/Ripple are my suspicions for who the Reckoners are. I don't think Orlok and Kipper are Reckoners, because they were involved in Arraenae's lynch, and her lynch only had a 1 vote gap, which could have easily been changed over to Mail to save her without attracting much suspicion to themselves(since Mail had previously been lynched twice).

Posted

I didn't make the post because I was using my tablet (which is all I've used this game which makes it extremely difficult to use with PMs) plus it was at 14% aka would die in 2 mins bc the battery sucks and I didn't(and don't) have access to a computer. I'll make the list tomorrow,but for now I sleep.

And yeah, sorry Lopen, I realize I'm kind of tunneling you, but I really don't have any other suspicions.

I trust Kipper since Arraenae said she was suspicious of him, but I'm not sure of much else.

Posted

Ok, I made the list since I had a few minutes

C1. Lopen: Your target protected someone.

C2. PK: Your target followed someone.

C3. Clanky: Your target attacked someone.

C4. Hellscythe: Your target followed someone.

C5. Elkanah: Your target followed someone.

I don't really see how this list helps but you seemed to want it.

Posted

So, as per Kipper's suggestion, I will reveal that I have transmogrification. I haven't done anything with it, though.

Posted

So, as per Kipper's suggestion, I will reveal that I have transmogrification. I haven't done anything with it, though.

Great! If you could Soothe queensteph's vote, that would be fantastic. I'll Soothe Kamyle's vote, and then we should be able to carry the lynch.

I feel like Ripple is hiding in the shadows a little too much. I'm willing to bet that Ripple is one of the less active reckoners.

See, I thought so too, until I realized just now that if Ripple was the other Eliminator, there would be absolutely no experienced player on their team. Of course, this is really an issue where I'm trying to predict the balance of the game, etc., but I doubt that there are zero more experienced players on the team, which is why I'm suggesting that we lynch queensteph first, then have PK find out the third Reckoner. But it is imperative that everybody vote. Right now, Kamyle can control the lynch with vote manipulation, regardless of who Ripple and I Transmogrify.
Posted

I apologise for my absence last cycle - I was travelling to a family funeral. I doubt I'll be active until later this evening.

Kipper, a thought to consider: if all the reckoners are sufficiently well equipped as Arraenae was, could that be considered sufficiently powerful to warrant the lack of an overly experienced player?

Although, since you do seen so set on there being an experienced player, what makes you any more likely to be innocent than me?

Posted

I apologise for my absence last cycle - I was travelling to a family funeral. I doubt I'll be active until later this evening.

Kipper, a thought to consider: if all the reckoners are sufficiently well equipped as Arraenae was, could that be considered sufficiently powerful to warrant the lack of an overly experienced player?

Although, since you do seen so set on there being an experienced player, what makes you any more likely to be innocent than me?

I suppose so, which would then say that Bridge Boy is the likely Eliminator.

Well, I know I'm innocent, and if that isn't proof enough (which it likely isn't, knowing you), there's the entire PM thing with Arraenae that went on. Me getting her lynched even when I could have retracted and swung the lynch a different way. Of course, you could look at all those things and say, "Yeah, a really clever Eliminator could have faked that entire PM transcript and bussed Arraenae just so he could look good now," but is that really plausible?

 

Lynch tally as it stands (in-thread votes):

(2) Lopen: Kamyle, queensteph

(1) queensteph: Kipper

(1) Ripple: PK

Paranoid King has MagPer, as well as queensteph, and I expect the Eliminators to manipulate him, so the vote tally will likely turn out like:

(5) Lopen: Kamyle, queensteph, PK

(1) queensteph: Kipper

Unless we all do something to stop this. Ripple, I will Transmogrify queensteph. I suggest that you Transmogrify PK to prevent the possibility of him being manipulated with a double vote.

That would bring the total as it stands to:

(1) Lopen: Kamyle

(1) queensteph: Kipper

And this, if we stack more votes on queensteph, is winnable.

Posted

And why are we so set on getting Queensteph rather than Lopen lynched?

Lopen himself is a dangerous player - sufficiently so that a team containing him is very plausible.

Further, given the number of kills flying around, protection for the eliminators seems like a very sensible role to give them

Posted (edited)

Purely because I read queensteph and Kamyle as evil. You can see my earlier post for why I think queensteph is bad.

I don't think, given those two are bad, that they would be bussing Lopen at this point. They have no reason to get a fellow Eliminator killed, so unless they plan on changing votes at the last minute to get somebody else lynched, I read Lopen as good. Better to lynch someone that I'm pretty sure is bad rather than someone who I don't know about.

Although I'm starting to be suspicious of your insistence on getting Lopen lynched. What is it that makes you suspicious of him, beyond the vote change (which I would still like an answer to, Lopen)? Edit: Nevermind; didn't see that he had answered.

Edited by Guest
Posted

Hey guys, I'll return to my vote on Lopen from last cycle, but I'd like to know, I missed part of last cycle, but I was pretty sure that I had some votes on me closer to the end. Were all those removed? Or was more vote-manipulation or something going on?

Posted

I'm hardly insistent on getting him lynched Kipper! Indeed - it was he I scanned on cycle 1, and was reluctant to reveal his identity early as a lurcher.

I'd just like to understand as much of the situation as I can before a lynch you consider so crucial.

Posted

I'm hardly insistent on getting him lynched Kipper! Indeed - it was he I scanned on cycle 1, and was reluctant to reveal his identity early as a lurcher.

I'd just like to understand as much of the situation as I can before a lynch you consider so crucial.

I see. Yes, I do see this lynch as crucial, because the Eliminators still have a kill. Right now it's 3 to 5, but if the Eliminators make a kill and we lynch wrong, that becomes 3 to 3, a practically unwinnable situation for us.

Bridge Boy makes another vote on Lopen (unexplained), which brings the total to

(4) Lopen: queensteph, Kamyle, Bridge Boy (MagPer)

(2) Ripple: PK (MagPer)

(1) queensteph: Kipper

After my Transmogrification of queensteph, and (hopefully) Ripple's Transmogrification of PK to prevent him being manipulated, this brings us to

(2) Lopen: Kamyle, Bridge Boy

(0) Ripple: PK

(1) Queensteph: Kipper

Unless someone has previously unmentioned vote manipulation powers.

Posted

I'm beginning to consider that Kipper is evil. He seems convinced that Queensteph and Kamyle are evil and that Lopen is good, without much evidence, and is trying to use that "knowledge" to control the vote. I'm becoming more suspicious of him than Ripple.

Posted

I've got to agree with you PK. Maybe I just feel offended because he's targeting me, but he totally seems to be shuffling the blame off on other people.  I would vote for him, but I'm also highly convinced that Lopen is an eliminator, and I just want to get rid of them one at a time, and make sure that they're gone.

Posted

Okay. Now I'm not sure what to think. Do any of you guys have reasons beyond, "Kipper really wants to lynch this person because he's afraid we'll lose the game otherwise, and I find that suspicious?"

Posted

I don't blame Kipper for wanting to lynch queensteph, but if you are so certain of Kamyle's guilt, why not lynch him instead?

Posted

I don't blame Kipper for wanting to lynch queensteph, but if you are so certain of Kamyle's guilt, why not lynch him instead?

Because I'm certain, based on the writeups, that queensteph has Magnified Persuasion. That means if we leave her alive until tomorrow, she's got a vote that counts double.

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