Anniversary Game 2: Return of the Koloss

[Elbereth she/her]

I don't see why you think it's Villagers killing Villagers just because Venture was innocent and there were no Soothings/Riotings going on. Venture was in a comfortable lead, as votes go, so there would be no point in using Emotional Allomancy. Also, it was the lynch of a Villager. The only possible reasons the Eliminators would have to Sooth or Riot would be to create confusion or to try and get someone else lynched (tricky, as they would need a Soothing and a Rioting). So I really don't think it clears any of those four at all.

I know what you're saying, and I don't know that you're wrong. I just personally think that it lowers those four on my suspicions list, because it feels to me like a situation where the Diagrammists weren't at all interested in involving themselves. I could be wrong, sure, but I think it's a point in their favor. (I'm not trying to say it soft-clears them, though. That's a bit much.)

[Metacognition he/him]

Day 5: Glitched

Initializing Perception/Awareness Modules……………...Complete.
Initializing Core Memory Processes………………………Complete.
Initializing Mobility Extensions…………………………….Complete.
Initializing Secondary Memory Processes……………….Complete.

System Start Up Successful.

Model 867-5309, also known as STINK (Strategic Tineye Intelligence of Nominal Knowledge) tossed Its head, throwing Its mane about and let out a small whinney.

STINK knew that It wasn’t really a Tineye, that It just had the components to mimic the abilities of one, just as It knew It wasn’t supposed to be in the form of a horse. And yet this was how It had wound up. Something must have been damaged during the trip that brought It here and now It was stuck with the form. STINK supposed it wasn’t all bad. It was brushed by a fairly clumsy stableboy and fed carrots and apples. STINK liked carrots, even if It didn’t know why.

STINK opened Its stall with ease. The stalls were meant to keep regular horses in, not super advanced A.I.s. STINK had specific objectives programmed into It: To seek and observe. To collect data and samples of the world before. And above all, to keep Its identity a secret. Those tasks became much more difficult in this form, but it wasn’t impossible. STINK already had samples of multiple types of grass and oats for example. Beyond that, It knew that the events occurring here in Tyrian Falls would be of great interest to those in the future once they called him back. As such, It needed to be out and about, so that It could gather as much information as possible.

It made Its way out into the night; scanning the surroundings with all of Its senses, from infrared to ultraviolet. Most of the town was quiet. The villagers all asleep.

But there would be those that were out tonight.

STINK started to near the edge of the village when It picked up a group of people with Its heat vision. They were huddled by the corner of one of the buildings. STINK made its way towards the corner, hoping to listen in.

“....with the Apothecary finally gone as well, they’ll have no built up supplies. They’re already dead now. All we have to do is make sure that they can’t replace what has been destroyed and Ruin will have his massacre.”

The Spiked were here and they were plotting on how to destroy Tyrian Falls. This would be exactly the kind of information that It was sent back to retrieve! STINK tried to make Its way closer to the group; so that he could identify them for historical record.

Unfortunately, a horse’s body is not made for stealth and they all tensed and turned when they heard STINK clop up.

“Oh,” said one of them, sounding slightly relieved. “It’s just that sneaky horse. He wouldn’t tell on us, now would you, fella?”

STINK’s caution sensors glitched and before It could stop Itself, STINK shook Its head and said, “Nope.”

The Spiked almost turned away when, as a group, they realized what had just happened.  

“Did… Did you just talk?”

Another glitch. “Ummm…. No?”



In the morning, Tyrian Falls awoke to a center square filled odd pieces of metal and machinery. Along with the scattering of mechanical maleficence, everyone awoke to a note on their kitchen table. If they didn’t have a kitchen table, they found it in the second most likely place they’d wind up having to see it- in their shoes. It read:

'Dinner and a show!

Watch The Amazing Wyrm saw his daring assistant Citona in half! Feast upon fowl, game and bread as he conjures animals from inside his hat! Be astonished as he predicts a card from a deck, chosen by someone in this very audience!

And now, the deal of the century! One ticket for the price of two!

The Amazing Wyrm, doors close at 6!'


Day 5 has begun! You have 48 hours until the end of the turn.

STINK was a Village Tineye!

Current Player List

 

 

Edited May 27, 2017 by Alvron

[Haelbarde he/him]

Been busy the last day or so, but should be fine for the next few. Quick links and thoughts coming when I get to my PC.
 
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Quicklinks

Signups
Night 1
Day 1
Night 2
Day 2
Night 3
Day 3
Night 4
Day 4
Night 5

Player List:

1. Mailliw73 - Maill (The Cobbler)
2. Haelbarde - Edrab Leah (Author)
3. Seonid - Senn Conrad (Minor Nobleman) Village Regular 
4. IrulelikeSTINK - STINK (Glitched AI in the Shape of a Horse) Village Tineye
5. Herowannabe - Herwynbe (Terris Steward)
6. OrlokTsubodai - Locke Tekiel (Estranged Son of a Noble House)
7. Kasimir - Kassien Estvaril (Apothecary) Village Smoker
8. Bort - Bartholomew the Blind (Knight Awkward)
9. Wyrmhero - The Surprisingly Mediocre Amazing Wyrm (Traveling Magician)
10. Ripplegylf - Clara Lepinceau (Former Noblewoman)
11. Venture Mistborn - Alexander Venture (Mute Beggar) Village Regular12. Mark IV - Unknown (Amnesiac)
13. WeiryWriter - Riew (Skaa Courier)
14. Hellscythe - Hellscythe (Madman who thinks he's a ghost)
15. Adavantos - Gidomara Grae (Professional Procrastinator) Village Smoker
16. Araris Valerian - Aralis (Skeptical Elderly Grump) Village Regular
17. Phattemer - Exisa (Small and Paranoid)
18. Madashar Mistborn - Kilven (Blacksmith)
19. Creccio - Inor Haze (Mortician/Taxidermist)
20. Shallan Kipper - Citona Vinid (Bellringer)
21. Alvron - Vron (Alchemist and all around resurrected guy)
22. Lightsworn Panda - Jain (Panda, of course)
23. Sart - Slart (Quiet Hunter)
24. TheMightyLopen - Lippen (Head of the Sewing Circle) Spiked Lurcher
25. Elkanah - Kane (Florist)
26. Elbereth - El (Apprentice Apothecary)
27. Luckat - Lu (Town Busybody)

Edited January 9, 2016 by Haelbarde

[Herowannabe he/him]

One Tineye down... so did STINK not submit a final message?

[Elbereth she/her]

Hmm, interesting point. Meta, did you ever clarify the Day order of actions? Because the Night one is in the original post, but not the day.

[Hellscythe he/him]

Well if it wasn't obvious before it certainly is now, Wyrmhero. I'm not using PM's that much and more thread activity would be for the better anyways. The only downside would be that the Seeker can't PM Villagers and make a trusted group. But it doesn't look like they're doing anything anyways so I don't mind. Same goes for the coinshots if they exist.

[Elbereth she/her]

This is me fixing my RP from last cycle, since I forgot to before the turn ended. Oops.

She thought about staying and discussing, trying to find Kassien's killer. She should have been concerned about revenge, she thought. But she wasn't, not really, not like that. So she would stick to what she knew best.

The store of herbs was completely gone, of course. They'd need more, and quickly. She made plans for the morning, readying for a journey. She thought she would go out on short expeditions, rather than a long travel to get everything at once, just in case the village needed her skills.

So she grabbed a bag from a neighbor, ignoring her pitying look. She returned the cloak she had been wearing to its rightful owner, and reverently put on her own, which had been hanging in the Canton where she had left it.

She inhaled into the cloak, smelling the smells of home again, and nearly cried. But there was no time for that, not now.

El dozed through the night, waking to hear occasional comments, and sleeping again, inside the Canton for the moment until she found someone to take her in.

The next morning, she was already up and out of the town when dawn broke, heading towards the hills and the forests where she could find herbs to use to heal- and maybe, to kill.

---

Well, if I wasn't suspicious of you before, I am now, Hellscythe. Wyrm is either good and being framed for being evil, or evil and being made indispensable with Stink's death (credit goes to Mail for bringing this up in a PM with me).

Either is a possibility, but I'm much more inclined to believe the former, because of your reaction. I think the eliminators are trying to make us get rid of our own PMs, rather than making them use a kill for it. And I assume that someone has Seeked Wyrm by now, and I believe someone would have said, if he turned out evil.

So there's that.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Well if it wasn't obvious before it certainly is now, Wyrmhero. I'm not using PM's that much and more thread activity would be for the better anyways. The only downside would be that the Seeker can't PM Villagers and make a trusted group. But it doesn't look like they're doing anything anyways so I don't mind. Same goes for the coinshots if they exist.

Hellscythe. What Elbereth said. (I mean, I did say it first. She just posted it first. ) You've either fell for exactly what you were meant to or you're trying to get the Bandwagon going.

[Hellscythe he/him]

 

This is me fixing my RP from last cycle, since I forgot to before the turn ended. Oops.
She thought about staying and discussing, trying to find Kassien's killer. She should have been concerned about revenge, she thought. But she wasn't, not really, not like that. So she would stick to what she knew best.

The store of herbs was completely gone, of course. They'd need more, and quickly. She made plans for the morning, readying for a journey. She thought she would go out on short expeditions, rather than a long travel to get everything at once, just in case the village needed her skills.

So she grabbed a bag from a neighbor, ignoring her pitying look. She returned the cloak she had been wearing to its rightful owner, and reverently put on her own, which had been hanging in the Canton where she had left it.

She inhaled into the cloak, smelling the smells of home again, and nearly cried. But there was no time for that, not now.

El dozed through the night, waking to hear occasional comments, and sleeping again, inside the Canton for the moment until she found someone to take her in.

The next morning, she was already up and out of the town when dawn broke, heading towards the hills and the forests where she could find herbs to use to heal- and maybe, to kill.

---

Well, if I wasn't suspicious of you before, I am now, Hellscythe. Wyrm is either good and being framed for being evil, or evil and being made indispensable with Stink's death (credit goes to Mail for bringing this up in a PM with me).
Either is a possibility, but I'm much more inclined to believe the former, because of your reaction. I think the eliminators are trying to make us get rid of our own PMs, rather than making them use a kill for it. And I assume that someone has Seeked Wyrm by now, and I believe someone would have said, if he turned out evil.

So there's that.

You've stated your concerns before. Unfortunately for you however my reaction has absolutely nothing to do with the outcome of Wyrm being good or evil. That was determined Day 1 by Meta. 

 

The Spiked just happen to attack Stink instead of Wyrm on the first night Stink was revealed? C'mon guys. Basic logic here. I'm honestly surprised Wyrm hasn't claimed Spiked like Adavantos did last game. I knew it was Wyrm the minute he claimed. Now he's just more valuable to us. We should've lynched him day 1.

 

Yeah I'd agree with the Seeker thing if they turned out to exist. Seekers SHOULD have already scanned at least 1 Spiked. The Lurchers SHOULD have already protected at least 1 Villager. The Coinshots SHOULD have already been shooting their suspicions. A lot of roles SHOULD be doing something, but alas no results. So until a Seeker comes out and says "We finally got one!" my vote is on the most obvious Spiked at the time, Wyrm.

 

Hellscythe. What Elbereth said. (I mean, I did say it first. She just posted it first. ) You've either fell for exactly what you were meant to or you're trying to get the Bandwagon going.

Isn't that every Villager's job? To get the person they suspect the most lynched? What game are you playing here Mail?

[Mailliw73 he/him]

You've stated your concerns before. Unfortunately for you however my reaction has absolutely nothing to do with the outcome of Wyrm being good or evil. That was determined Day 1 by Meta.

The Spiked just happen to attack Stink instead of Wyrm on the first night Stink was revealed? C'mon guys. Basic logic here. I'm honestly surprised Wyrm hasn't claimed Spiked like Adavantos did last game. I knew it was Wyrm the minute he claimed. Now he's just more valuable to us. We should've lynched him day 1.

Yeah I'd agree with the Seeker thing if they turned out to exist. Seekers SHOULD have already scanned at least 1 Spiked. The Lurchers SHOULD have already protected at least 1 Villager. The Coinshots SHOULD have already been shooting their suspicions. A lot of roles SHOULD be doing something, but alas no results. So until a Seeker comes out and says "We finally got one!" my vote is on the most obvious Spiked at the time, Wyrm.

Isn't that every Villager's job? To get the person they suspect the most lynched? What game are you playing here Mail?

Can you clarify the first paragraph? Your reaction has nothing to do with Wyrm being good or evil? Huh?

Second, Stink revealed two nights ago, not last night. Just to make sure we're clear. It is still possible Wyrm is Spiked, I'll agree, but it is not obvious as you think. It is the most basic possibility, but I've learned that Eliminators can think of the strangest plans. From the moment they both revealed, I've felt that something was off about the Tineyes. My thoughts are:

1. There's two village Tineyes

2. There's two evil tineyes(now disproven)

3. There's two village Tineyes and one evil one who has been intentionally not using their power to throw us off and make us kill both of our own Tineyes.

Two people have claimed Seeker. Thad a risky one to claim if you can't back it up. So I'm inclined to trust that there's at least one and that the other may be a Spiked. Lurchers are actually very unlikely to protect from a Spiked kill. They aren't "supposed" to have been able to do it by this point. Sometimes kills happen for unknown reasons. This one could have been predicted, yes. But not all can be.

Edit: I meant that with my theory that the Spiked want us to lynch Wyrm on our own, you're the one trying to get us started on voting for Wyrm.

Edited January 8, 2016 by Mailliw73

[Elbereth she/her]

You've stated your concerns before. Unfortunately for you however my reaction has absolutely nothing to do with the outcome of Wyrm being good or evil. That was determined Day 1 by Meta.

No, but it could potentially give an indication of alignment. Anything anyone says does that.

The Spiked just happen to attack Stink instead of Wyrm on the first night Stink was revealed? C'mon guys. Basic logic here. I'm honestly surprised Wyrm hasn't claimed Spiked like Adavantos did last game. I knew it was Wyrm the minute he claimed. Now he's just more valuable to us. We should've lynched him day 1.

Perhaps because they knew Wyrm would have protection (either someone claimed and told them, or they just assumed it because it made sense), but no one mentioned giving Stink any protection, so they thought that would be safe (and also frame Wyrm, as I said earlier). If Wyrm were evil I'd have expected a WGG by now (though to be fair their Lucher did die on the first day, so they would have to have used a Villager contact unless they have two Lurchers, which seems unlikely given the absence of Coinshots).

Yeah I'd agree with the Seeker thing if they turned out to exist. Seekers SHOULD have already scanned at least 1 Spiked. The Lurchers SHOULD have already protected at least 1 Villager. The Coinshots SHOULD have already been shooting their suspicions. A lot of roles SHOULD be doing something, but alas no results. So until a Seeker comes out and says "We finally got one!" my vote is on the most obvious Spiked at the time, Wyrm.

I don't necessarily think that Seekers should have found a Spiked right now, unless they were lucky. And it depends on if their strategy as well (whether they're targeting people they trust or people they suspect). And the Seekers have been scanning, I think. We just don't know the results because we haven't been scanned yet and added to one of the trust groups.

And I think the Lurchers are protecting Villagers. They're just protecting the wrong ones. It's not easy to guess who will be attacked, usually (though I still say they should have seen Stink's death coming).

EDIT: Ninja'd by Maill, saying basically the same thing.

Edited January 8, 2016 by Elbereth

[Wyrmhero he/him]

Hellscythe, you've answered your own question as to why I wasn't killed instead of STINK - Because you think it is entirely and 100% obvious that I am an Eliminator. Why would they do it when they (or perhaps when you) can instead cajole others into doing it.

 

Sigh... Hellscythe, I'm really not sure what to think about you. You could be tunneling onto me because you are genuinely suspicious of me (though wrong), or because you're an Eliminator who really does think they can get me lynched. Honestly, at this point I'm starting to be more suspicious of Mailliw and Elbereth, just because I'm thinking you'd have a bit more support if you were one, and you seem like an obvious lynch target at this point.

 

I'm not going to vote for you, not yet. I'm going to put a vote on Hreo again, as he's posted but hasn't actually contributed anything with that post.

[Elbereth she/her]

Sigh... Hellscythe, I'm really not sure what to think about you. You could be tunneling onto me because you are genuinely suspicious of me (though wrong), or because you're an Eliminator who really does think they can get me lynched. Honestly, at this point I'm starting to be more suspicious of Mailliw and Elbereth, just because I'm thinking you'd have a bit more support if you were one, and you seem like an obvious lynch target at this point.

Point. Doesn't really help your case, though.

Also, I've just received confirmation from Meta that if Stink had sent in a message, we would have seen it. There's not much to be gleaned from that, though. Everyone's been inactive recently.

[Hellscythe he/him]

 

Can you clarify the first paragraph? Your reaction has nothing to do with Wyrm being good or evil? Huh?

Second, Stink revealed two nights ago, not last night. Just to make sure we're clear. It is still possible Wyrm is Spiked, I'll agree, but it is not obvious as you think. It is the most basic possibility, but I've learned that Eliminators can think of the strangest plans. From the moment they both revealed, I've felt that something was off about the Tineyes. My thoughts are:
1. There's two village Tineyes
2. There's two evil tineyes(now disproven)
3. There's two village Tineyes and one evil one who has been intentionally not using their power to throw us off and make us kill both of our own Tineyes.

Two people have claimed Seeker. Thad a risky one to claim if you can't back it up. So I'm inclined to trust that there's at least one and that the other may be a Spiked. Lurchers are actually very unlikely to protect from a Spiked kill. They aren't "supposed" to have been able to do it by this point. Sometimes kills happen for unknown reasons. This one could have been predicted, yes. But not all can be.

Edit: I meant that with my theory that the Spiked want us to lynch Wyrm on our own, you're the one trying to get us started on voting for Wyrm.

That first one was directed at Elbereth. She responded nicely.

 

Your thoughts and my thoughts are not every possibility. It's just what we are most likely to believe to be the truth. I think it makes the most sense for there to be 1 and 1. Especially with Wyrm claiming Day one. Nothing about that says "two village tineyes or two spiked!" to me.

 

Seekers regardless of whether or not they have scanned a Spiked, should already have a good guess of who is the Spiked even if they haven't scanned a Spiked yet just based on the fact that they know a good amount of villagers. 

 

No, but it could potentially give an indication of alignment. Anything anyone says does that.

Perhaps because they knew Wyrm would have protection (either someone claimed and told them, or they just assumed it because it made sense), but no one mentioned giving Stink any protection, so they thought that would be safe (and also frame Wyrm, as I said earlier). If Wyrm were evil I'd have expected a WGG by now (though to be fair their Lucher did die on the first day, so they would have to have used a Villager contact unless they have two Lurchers, which seems unlikely given the absence of Coinshots).

I don't necessarily think that Seekers should have found a Spiked right now, unless they were lucky. And it depends on if their strategy as well (whether they're targeting people they trust or people they suspect). And the Seekers have been scanning, I think. We just don't know the results because we haven't been scanned yet and added to one of the trust groups.
And I think the Lurchers are protecting Villagers. They're just protecting the wrong ones. It's not easy to guess who will be attacked, usually (though I still say they should have seen Stink's death coming).

EDIT: Ninja'd by Maill, saying basically the same thing.

Lots of things could've "perhaps" happened. I don't dwell on every small chance. There's a small chance of just about everything.

I don't expect many things from the Spiked team including WGG's. Especially considering there's only been 2 that I know of in history.

 

Like I said earlier,

"Seekers regardless of whether or not they have scanned a Spiked, should already have a good guess of who is the Spiked even if they haven't scanned a Spiked yet just based on the fact that they know a good amount of villagers." They should be leading the town. They have the most information. Any way they've scanned, Spiked or Village each cycle they've been gaining more information than us. Again, if they exist.

 

To be honest because there's at least 3 Village Smokers I'm taking into account the possibility of the Spiked having more Seekers(maybe all of them). Which is a possible reason why they haven't scanned any Spiked yet. They're stuck in the same situation as Burnt Spaghetti was. She couldn't scan someone and tell people they were evil. If they were, that would hurt their team. If they weren't, it would out Spaghetti as a trusted Seeker. If they just keep saying people are good, regardless of alignment, they are safe.

 

My vote stays on Wyrm until the Village Seekers(or proxy) start realizing they need to post.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Hellscythe, you've answered your own question as to why I wasn't killed instead of STINK - Because you think it is entirely and 100% obvious that I am an Eliminator. Why would they do it when they (or perhaps when you) can instead cajole others into doing it.

That was half my point.

 

Your thoughts and my thoughts are not every possibility. It's just what we are most likely to believe to be the truth. I think it makes the most sense for there to be 1 and 1. Especially with Wyrm claiming Day one. Nothing about that says "two village tineyes or two spiked!" to me.

 

Seekers regardless of whether or not they have scanned a Spiked, should already have a good guess of who is the Spiked even if they haven't scanned a Spiked yet just based on the fact that they know a good amount of villagers. 

Actually, our thoughts have covered every possibility if there are only 2 Tineyes. Why does 1 and 1 make the most sense? Yes, that automatically balances, but the Tineye role is an easy one to balance. If both are on the Village side, I'd expect we have an extra Lurcher. Same for if both are on the Spiked side. That balances quite nicely all by itself, no weird convolutions needed.

 

I will agree there. And, while I don't like the Follow the Cop strategy, I do agree that both Seekers should have someone come forward today with their opinions on Wyrm and or Hellscythe. Heck, me too, if you want.

[Elbereth she/her]

Lots of things could've "perhaps" happened. I don't dwell on every small chance. There's a small chance of just about everything.

I don't expect many things from the Spiked team including WGG's. Especially considering there's only been 2 that I know of in history.

Fair enough. (Agh! Burnt and Hael have got me saying it too! And I wasn't even in that doc. Either of those docs.)

Like I said earlier,

"Seekers regardless of whether or not they have scanned a Spiked, should already have a good guess of who is the Spiked even if they haven't scanned a Spiked yet just based on the fact that they know a good amount of villagers." They should be leading the town. They have the most information. Any way they've scanned, Spiked or Village each cycle they've been gaining more information than us. Again, if they exist.

To be honest because there's at least 3 Village Smokers I'm taking into account the possibility of the Spiked having more Seekers(maybe all of them). Which is a possible reason why they haven't scanned any Spiked yet. They're stuck in the same situation as Burnt Spaghetti was. She couldn't scan someone and tell people they were evil. If they were, that would hurt their team. If they weren't, it would out Spaghetti as a trusted Seeker. If they just keep saying people are good, regardless of alignment, they are safe.

Yes, they have more information than us, I agree. They know who's not Spiked, so they can use process of elimination and be more accurate. But that does not mean they should come out to the thread (EDIT: That was unclear of me. I have no objection to proxies coming out in thread, and I don't know why they haven't yet). They do have trust groups, which I trust are discussing, and hopefully making a large enough impact on the thread to sway it away from known villagers.

And there might be a Spiked Seeker, which people have already warned against. If all of the Seekers are evil, however, or if there aren't any, I will be unhappy, particularly given the notable lack of Coinshots already.

Actually, that made me think of a suggestion for the Seeker PM groups, whoever you are: Prepare for PM destruction. It's possible that fairly soon we won't have any, so set up a code or whatever, so a proxy can announce results through the thread.

EDIT: Clarifications above (in parentheses).

Edited January 8, 2016 by Elbereth

[Orlok Tsubodai]

I've recovered greatly from my virus now, and intend to read the thread through tomorrow morning before returning to normal activity - I would be very grateful if anyone feels like PMing me a rundown on what's happened, though!

[Herowannabe he/him]

I don't know why I keep needing to repeat this, but Tineye Wyrm, even if he is evil, should be left alive for now. If we are convinced that he should be lynched, that's fine, but let's do it around cycle 9 or 10 when we're coming into the end game, not cycle 5.

Also I don't know why Wyrm keeps insisting on voting for me when I am one of the ones arguing the most vehemently to keep him alive (unless he IS a spiked Tineye and he's trying to get himself killed).

As for my post earlier with little substance- I put all the substance into it that I could in the few seconds I had this morning before rushing off to work.

[Wyrmhero he/him]

I don't know why I keep needing to repeat this, but Tineye Wyrm, even if he is evil, should be left alive for now. If we are convinced that he should be lynched, that's fine, but let's do it around cycle 9 or 10 when we're coming into the end game, not cycle 5.

Also I don't know why Wyrm keeps insisting on voting for me when I am one of the ones arguing the most vehemently to keep him alive (unless he IS a spiked Tineye and he's trying to get himself killed).

As for my post earlier with little substance- I put all the substance into it that I could in the few seconds I had this morning before rushing off to work.

 

The fact that you're arguing to keep me alive doesn't enter into this vote. I'm not going to be bribed into not voting for you by that .

 

Also, this new post of yours doesn't really have much of substance either, and I was kind of hoping to get more out of you which is new, rather than just repeating that mantra. Do you not have an opinion on how things are going right now, with regards to Hellscythe being up for the lynch for a third time already?

Edited January 9, 2016 by Wyrmhero

[luckat she/her]

It’s been pretty quiet here. Even if you don’t have much time, if the people who haven’t posted could just post a sentence or two of their thoughts about the Tineye situation or whether Wyrm or HS seems more suspicious, that would be great.

I think Hellscythe's actions have been a bit off. I think he jumped on Wyrm too fast. He almost seems to want to get rid of PMs. In addition, since HS has been in a tied lynch twice, I think we could learn a lot from his alignment, regardless of what it is.

However, I’m not certain about Wyrm. If HS turns out to be a villager and/or Wyrm isn’t killed by the Spiked soon, I’m going to have to look more closely at him. While I don’t like the idea of losing PMs, I don’t think we should avoid lynching someone based just on their role if that means we aren’t coming up with better choices. If the Seekers’ confirmed groups come up with a way to share results without PMs, as Elbereth said, losing PMs won’t be too big a deal.
 
Vote tally (hopefully this one is correct)
HS (3): Elbereth, Maill, Lu
Wyrm (1): HS
Hero (1): Wyrm

[Mailliw73 he/him]

No one? We need more discussion. This vote could still easily go to a tie like most the others. We need more opinions and analysis from the silent majority.

Edit: I have a reveal I'd like to make, but I'll wait till two different people from those above to post or for two hours.

Edited January 10, 2016 by Mailliw73

[Mashadar Mistborn he/him]

Okay. I haven't had too much time to consider an analysis, but these are my thoughts.

Spiked Kills:

1. Seonid, likely just a poke kill.

2. Araris, I have no idea on this one. He was regular, and hadn't done much to be honest.

3. Adavantos, this one makes sense. He was posting summaries, and the spiked would probably like to keep information difficult to access. Also, he was a smoker.

4. Kas, also a smoker, one of the more experienced players and quite active on the thread.

5. Stink, this makes perfect sense to me, as a tineye's death contributes a lot to chaos, especially if Wyrm dies.

As expressed in 5, I'd like to keep Wyrm alive a little while longer, as it is the only way to keep the spiked from knowing all of our plans.

As for a vote, HS. The amount of suspicion that you are putting on the only tineye seems a little suspicious to me.

 

And if anyone has any idea why Araris was killed, I'd like to know. Because his death makes the least sense to me.

 

Thanks for the save, El.

Edited January 10, 2016 by Mashadar Mistborn

[Elbereth she/her]

El sighed, reaching down to pull out the last feverbane that she could see. It was getting dark; she'd need to stop soon. The moon was nowhere near bright enough, and carrying a torch was dangerous, for more than one reason.

She stuffed the plant into her sack and straightened, stretching. She hiked for a few minutes, until she emerged atop a familiar hill, which she'd camped upon many times. She carefully kindled a small fire, in a dip where it wouldn't easily be spotted. Then she stood warming her hands to the fire as it cooked her dinner, staring out towards the tiny, fragile lights that marked the town.

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I don't know if HS is suspicious anymore. Maybe the eliminators were going to frame Wyrm, but the quick response to HS discouraged them. But there hasn't even been an effort to defend him. So either they decided to completely leave him to the wolves, or he's innocent, and I can't tell which.

As for a vote, HS. The amount of suspicion that you are putting on our lone surviving tiny seems a little suspicious to me.

While this typo amuses me to no end, you probably want to fix it. Edited January 10, 2016 by Elbereth

[Mailliw73 he/him]

And, with that, Hellscythe.

[Mark IV he/him]

I see a few possibilities-

1) Wyrm is spiked-

Then, his team's move to kill Stink was quite predictable, but he would've alignment claimed by now IMO.

2) HS is spiked-

I'm not inclined to believe this one (as you all could guess), but I feel that the Spiked's main motive in killing Stink was to cast suspicion on wyrm, and create one less buffer in stopping PMs, and subsequently, the Seeker groups, so, I don't think one of them would have been eager to step into the spotlight, and vote first.

3) Elbereth is Spiked-

I don't really think that this one is correct either, but, if El were spiked, I think she wouldn't oppose, HS' vote on Wyrm. She would instead have let the bandwagon form, and get Wyrm lynched if she were spiked.

4) Maill is spiked-

This one would fit quite nicely, IMO because Maill is manipulating El into voting for HS who is voting for Wyrm. This casts little light on him, while 2 other villagers are forced into the Spotlight of Scrutiny.

Later, when El withdrew her vote, Maill followe'd suit, and this also fits quite nicely with the theory. (This is just IMO though. Voice your thought if you concur or if you disagree.)

Your views?

Also, I hope this is contribution enough, 'cause I still won't be able to post much.

Edited January 10, 2016 by Mark IV