Pet Peeves

[Draginon he/him]

18 minutes ago, AngelEy3 said:

oh I do it too, i just get crabby because i can't get anyone irl to read a book.

Even worse when they say they don't have time to read and instead do the audiobook while doing other stuff like work. I would think it'd be hard to pay attention to the audio that way.

[Orlion Blight he/him]

My pet peeve today is that nobody is asking me what I think about the Lord of the Flies adaptation news! 

I mean, I'm the only person anybody knows that has read more than that one book by William Golding! Come on! 

[Ammanas]

1 hour ago, Orlion On a Cob said:

My pet peeve today is that nobody is asking me what I think about the Lord of the Flies adaptation news! 

I mean, I'm the only person anybody knows that has read more than that one book by William Golding! Come on! 

What do you think of it? Also, I have heard some people say that Golding's best book is The Spire (which I have not read). Agree or disagree?

[Orlion Blight he/him]

29 minutes ago, Ammanas said:

What do you think of it? Also, I have heard some people say that Golding's best book is The Spire (which I have not read). Agree or disagree?

I have not gotten to The Spire yet, though I've heard plenty good about it. 

My favorite so far has been Pincher Martin. It's a nice little, dense cruel book... but that pretty much describes every William Golding novel! 

As far as the adaptation goes: it depends on how much they change and how good they are with actually writing. If the only thing that changes is that it is all girls instead of all boys, it will fail. If they can't convincingly write girl characters, it will fail miserably. 

Another way to look at it is to consider the Lion King. It's pretty much an adaptation of Hamlet, but with an African setting and African animals. But they also didn't blindly follow Hamlet, they just used it as a framework. Something similar needs to be done in order for the Lord of the Flies adaptation to succeed. 

[Ammanas]

@Orlion On a Cob If you like little, dense, cruel works might I suggest Jack London? He writes some great stories and I think you would like his book The Sea-Wolf. It is about a literary critic, used to a soft cushy life, finds is washed overboard and picked up by a nihilism spouting tyrant of a captain.

[Orlion Blight he/him]

@Ammanas I have wanted to read some Jack London for some time. Thanks for the suggestion! 

[Sunbird she/her]

12 hours ago, Draginon said:

Here's one: when you're reading someone's name and they get mad and pronounce it in a way that makes you wonder how the heck did they get that pronunciation out of that!??! Have a teacher at one of our campuses whose last name is Goos. Seems simple right? Wrong! It's pronounced like ghost without the t. Then there's another whose first name is Bernice. It's a pretty easy one but she claims it's pronounced like furnace with a b sound instead of an f sound.

Obviously people don't really have control over their last names or the pronunciation, but it's stupid to get mad about someone saying it wrong when the "correct" pronunciation is not intuitive.

Related side note: I wonder if the teacher's name Goos has German origins--In German, double O's are pronounced like the vowel in "boat" instead of like in "boot." Words and names borrowed from foreign languages certainly complicate the game of guessing how you're supposed to say them...

11 hours ago, AngelEy3 said:

@Draginon I've often wondered if alternate name spellings come from the illiteracy of the parents? Sometimes it really really looks like they were doing their best to sound it out, instead of just looking rust up to begin with.

I think that is sometimes the cause, but I also think many parents are trying too hard to make their kid's name stand out and be "unique."

[AngelEy3 he/him]

38 minutes ago, Sunbird said:

Obviously people don't really have control over their last names or the pronunciation, but it's stupid to get mad about someone saying it wrong when the "correct" pronunciation is not intuitive.

Related side note: I wonder if the teacher's name Goos has German origins--In German, double O's are pronounced like the vowel in "boat" instead of like in "boot." Words and names borrowed from foreign languages certainly complicate the game of guessing how you're supposed to say them...

I think that is sometimes the cause, but I also think many parents are trying too hard to make their kid's name stand out and be "unique."

I like your idea much better than mine

[Draginon he/him]

41 minutes ago, Sunbird said:

Obviously people don't really have control over their last names or the pronunciation, but it's stupid to get mad about someone saying it wrong when the "correct" pronunciation is not intuitive.

Related side note: I wonder if the teacher's name Goos has German origins--In German, double O's are pronounced like the vowel in "boat" instead of like in "boot." Words and names borrowed from foreign languages certainly complicate the game of guessing how you're supposed to say them...

You'd be surprised how many people I've met who have gotten mad over something like that. Even my mom's gotten mad at me for 'mispronouncing' names when we're checking the names of students at testing time. One memorable one is Buchanan. I pronounce it the way it's spelled but she keeps saying it's bew-cannon. Heck most Texans get touchy on pronunciations in general. Looking for the town of Lancaster? Make sure you pronounce the g in Langcaster or you'll get shot. The town of Italy? Better say Itly or else!

I wouldn't know since it's her husbands last name. You should see Vietnamese names. One guy I work for has the last name Nguyen but is pronounced win.

[Sunbird she/her]

6 minutes ago, Draginon said:

One memorable one is Buchanan. I pronounce it the way it's spelled but she keeps saying it's bew-cannon.

I also had to get used to that one when I read The Great Gatsby for the first time in school. But Bew-cannon is apparently the commonly accepted way of saying it.

I have a hard time with names that start with the prefix Mc- and then are followed by a vowel, like McIntyre or McElroy. I always want to de-emphasize the Mc- and put the emphasis on the second syllable, but then it turns out you're supposed to say it MACK-in-tire or MACK-ull-roy.

[Calderis he/him]

On the name thing... I normally don't care. Names get pronounced the way the person says they should (though getting upset about it is needless). 

There's one though, that totally broke my brain. When we were trying to find a name for my son, my wife came across a woman on a pregnancy forum who was naming her child Abcde. 

First I was upset because how in damnation do you pronounce that? 

Then I was upset because she said it's pronounced Ab-sih-dee. 

What? 

[Orlion Blight he/him]

1 hour ago, Draginon said:

.Heck most Texans get touchy on pronunciations in general. Looking for the town of Lancaster? Make sure you pronounce the g in Langcaster or you'll get shot.

Heh... we have a Lancaster in Ohio. Here, it's pronounced Lane-kiss-ter.

[Mestiv he/him]

I don't understand how can there be so many ways to read the same word in English. And they say that English is an easy language :/

[Calderis he/him]

1 hour ago, Mestiv said:

I don't understand how can there be so many ways to read the same word in English. And they say that English is an easy language :/

Any language is easy when you grow up speaking it. 

English has so many words rooted in, or outright borrowed from, other languages that any rule has multitudes of exceptions. 

It is a very unfriendly language to a non-native. 

Pronunciation and spelling, depending on the word can range between Latin, Greek, German, and French, most commonly, but there words randomly from all over incorporated into it. 

Add in synonyms, homonyms, antonyms, and homophones, and anyone who say English is easy either grew up speaking it, or has never tried to learn it. 

Edited September 2, 2017 by Calderis

[AngelEy3 he/him]

Another pet peeve of mine is people who don't say what they mean and then act upset that you "want to pick hairs" when you ask for clarification. 

[Draginon he/him]

11 hours ago, Sunbird said:

I also had to get used to that one when I read The Great Gatsby for the first time in school. But Bew-cannon is apparently the commonly accepted way of saying it.

I have a hard time with names that start with the prefix Mc- and then are followed by a vowel, like McIntyre or McElroy. I always want to de-emphasize the Mc- and put the emphasis on the second syllable, but then it turns out you're supposed to say it MACK-in-tire or MACK-ull-roy.

That pronunciation just doesn't make sense with the spelling to me. :/

Mc is an odd one since depending on the person it's either Mic or Mac and you can never tell which it's supposed to be.

11 hours ago, Calderis said:

On the name thing... I normally don't care. Names get pronounced the way the person says they should (though getting upset about it is needless). 

There's one though, that totally broke my brain. When we were trying to find a name for my son, my wife came across a woman on a pregnancy forum who was naming her child Abcde. 

First I was upset because how in damnation do you pronounce that? 

Then I was upset because she said it's pronounced Ab-sih-dee. 

What? 

We had one student named Abc once and my mom thought it was the kid putting a fake name on the test sheet. That one was pronounced Ab-ca.

 

10 hours ago, Orlion On a Cob said:

Heh... we have a Lancaster in Ohio. Here, it's pronounced Lane-kiss-ter.

That one makes sense since it's the English way of pronouncing it.

 

9 hours ago, Mestiv said:

I don't understand how can there be so many ways to read the same word in English. And they say that English is an easy language :/

Between adopting words from other languages and regional pronunciations... Heck here they claim Spanish is the easiest language but when you it where J is pronounced H and H is almost always silent I don't find it easy.

 

1 hour ago, AngelEy3 said:

Another pet peeve of mine is people who don't say what they mean and then act upset that you "want to pick hairs" when you ask for clarification. 

That's my mom you just described. She can say 'can you get me the thing?' and I'll ask what thing and she goes to get the item herself because I'm 'too stoopid' to know what she meant.

[little wilson she/her]

54 minutes ago, Draginon said:

That one makes sense since it's the English way of pronouncing it.

Actually, it's not even close. They pronounce it Lan-cas-te (or some regions with a very very soft r at the end that is not emphasized at all). Lan as in land without the d, and cas like cast without the t. Rather far from Lane-kiss-ter.

[Draginon he/him]

3 hours ago, little wilson said:

Actually, it's not even close. They pronounce it Lan-cas-te (or some regions with a very very soft r at the end that is not emphasized at all). Lan as in land without the d, and cas like cast without the t. Rather far from Lane-kiss-ter.

That's the way I've heard it said on British shows...

[Oversleep]

15 hours ago, Calderis said:

Add in synonyms, homonyms, antonyms, and homophones, and anyone who say English is easy either grew up speaking it, or has never tried to learn it. 

Actually... apart from mispronouning some words even native speakers can't agree on how they should be pronounced, English is quite easy.

[Draginon he/him]

New pet peeves: People who drive without their lights on at night. What secrets are you hiding that you need to be a void in the darkness?

What I call The Horde. Pretty much it's when the entire family (mom, dad, grandma, grandpa, 5 kids, aunt and uncle) comes to the store but only one is doing the actual shopping with the others just standing there or the kids running around almost getting run over by other shoppers. I mostly see this with Mexicans but have seen it with other groups.

[Darkness Ascendant he/him]

you sure do have alot of pet peeves o_O 

 

[Orlok Tsubodai]

18 hours ago, Draginon said:

That's the way I've heard it said on British shows...

As an Englishman, I've never heard it pronounced "Lane-kiss-ter". The pronunciation Wilson provided "Lan-cas-te(r)" is that which is used.

[little wilson she/her]

One of my biggest pet peeves: people who think they know me better than I do, even after I tell them they're dead wrong.

My roommates back in college/uni insisted I was addicted to caffeine (particularly Mountain Dew), and when I told them I wasn't but simply liked the flavor, they said I was in denial. No matter what I said after that, it convinced them they were right. But they weren't. I have never been nor ever will be addicted to caffeine in any form. Most people gain an addiction to it because they overly rely on its stimulant effects. It doesn't keep me awake, though. I once took a 200mg pill and fell asleep 45 minutes later (though I OD'd later that day and it was massively uncomfortable). The best it does is help me focus, but I don't need to rely on caffeine for that. Therefore, I will never become addicted to it.

I'm a very self-aware person, and I'm constantly trying to learn more about myself and my motives. I have this burning desire to be psycho-analyzed, because even it uncovers some uncomfortable truths, they're still truths. I've learned something more and I can use that knowledge to change and adapt. To fix it. I consider almost everything people say about me - not because I care what everyone thinks, but because that insight from others can tell me about myself. If it's wrong and I know it, I'll say so. If it's possibly right, even it's uncomfortable, I'll think about it further and potentially discuss it with others I'm close to to figure out if it really might be right.

There are few things that irritate me more than people who insist on spreading untruths about my character (I'm not talking about malicious rumors; those are something else) because they give me less opportunities to learn what's right since people think what's wrong is right.

[StrikerEZ he/him]

Okay, but how do you guys pronounce caramel?

Edited September 3, 2017 by StrikerEZ

[Nathrangking he/him]

Teachers or professors who make zero effort to tone down their insane expectations and standards, and yet talk to you as if you should like them for what they put you through.