Edgedancer he/him Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) The Joker has actually had tattoos in the comics though... At one point I think he even cut of his own face and stabled it back on. Then again, there are also version of the character that think they aren't funny. Some comic writers just shouldn't be allowed to influence certain things and the editors even less. Edited December 30, 2015 by Edgedancer 1
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 My pet peeve today? People. 4
Mistrunner Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 The idea that a woman can only be strong and independent and whatnot if she doesn't want to have kids/get married. Seriously, what's up with that? It's amazing how much backlash you can get for saying you want to be a mom. It's completely ridiculous. 4
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 The idea that a woman can only be strong and independent and whatnot if she doesn't want to have kids/get married. Seriously, what's up with that? It's amazing how much backlash you can get for saying you want to be a mom. It's completely ridiculous. On the flip side, shows that use the All Women Want Kids trope in storylines where it isn't necessary and doesn't make since for the character is a peeve of mine. Wanting kids is awesome, and if the trope is being used to show how a strong female characters can be even stronger while balancing her life as a mom with everything else, fantastic! But more often than not, I see it used in shows where it's clear the writers just needed another source of drama. 1
Guest Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 The idea that a woman can only be strong and independent and whatnot if she doesn't want to have kids/get married. Seriously, what's up with that? It's amazing how much backlash you can get for saying you want to be a mom. It's completely ridiculous. I have to agree. Being a mother myself, I find it grating choosing to remain single and childless has now become the epitome of strong women. I was recently sadden to see a recent poll on favorite fantasy characters where the only high ranked female character was... Arya Stark, a character deemed strong mostly by her tomboyish personality, worst a character who spends half the story posing as a boy... I think there aren't enough Malta Vestrit in fantasy, a female character who remained strong and interesting even after choosing to marry and to have a child. No to say not wanting children is not a valid choice in life, I am simply referring to how female characters are viewed in fantasy. Having children takes strength and forces you to make choices which are often hard. On the flip side, shows that use the All Women Want Kids trope in storylines where it isn't necessary and doesn't make since for the character is a peeve of mine. Wanting kids is awesome, and if the trope is being used to show how a strong female characters can be even stronger while balancing her life as a mom with everything else, fantastic! But more often than not, I see it used in shows where it's clear the writers just needed another source of drama. Hmmm I understand what you mean and I do agree the reverse isn't exactly desirable either, but I'd be hard-pressed to find fantasy books where mothers are being portrayed in a positive light, if portrayed at all. Even Stormlight Archive has highlighted the fact choosing to marry Gavilar has been a mistake for Navani and she paid the price of a brilliant career. I don't want women being forced to choose the married life when they have no interest in it, but I reversely don't want women who chooses this option to be portrayed as weak and boring...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 Hmmm I understand what you mean and I do agree the reverse isn't exactly desirable either, but I'd be hard-pressed to find fantasy books where mothers are being portrayed in a positive light, if portrayed at all. Even Stormlight Archive has highlighted the fact choosing to marry Gavilar has been a mistake for Navani and she paid the price of a brilliant career. I don't want women being forced to choose the married life when they have no interest in it, but I reversely don't want women who chooses this option to be portrayed as weak and boring... I was referring mainly to non-fantasy TV shows; I'll agree that the lack of strong feminine fantasy women is appalling. On these shows, though, they'll introduce a woman with a career. She battles her way through the ranks, fighting sexism at every turn. She lands a handsome, caring boyfriend who loves her for her strength. And then it turns out she wants kids. She's always wanted kids; it was just never touched on before now. I don't know....maybe it bugs me because I don't want kids, and up until the kids plot was introduced, I could see myself in that character. It's almost like I'm being told, "You can have it all, but you can't be a real woman unless you want kids and have them before too long."
Guest Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 I was referring mainly to non-fantasy TV shows; I'll agree that the lack of strong feminine fantasy women is appalling. On these shows, though, they'll introduce a woman with a career. She battles her way through the ranks, fighting sexism at every turn. She lands a handsome, caring boyfriend who loves her for her strength. And then it turns out she wants kids. She's always wanted kids; it was just never touched on before now. I don't know....maybe it bugs me because I don't want kids, and up until the kids plot was introduced, I could see myself in that character. It's almost like I'm being told, "You can have it all, but you can't be a real woman unless you want kids and have them before too long." Ah well I agree outside the wonderful world of fantasy, the portrayal is different. I do agree certain shows have the tendency to portray maternity as the ultimate achievement while in truth, it simply is another phase of your life... I don't know many women who chose to have children to accomplish themselves, they all chose to have them because they just felt it's where they were at in their life. This feeling, this desire is not something most women talk about or cherish for a decade before it actually happens (well some do, but I have not personally met many). To portrayed it as such is just... wrong. Wanting children is generally link to you life, where you are in it and how you feel in it. It isn't a check to put on a list... It isn't a cherry on the top of a sundae, it simply is another phase which can happen at 20, 30, 40 or just never. For my part, I mostly read fantasy and I do feel as if certain types of characters are under-represented or portrayed in a negative way. I wish for a more diverse portrayal be it in books or anywhere else. I have noticed female characters, on average, are negatively thought of in practically all fantasy novels...
Delightful Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 Anyone read Red Seas Under Red Skies? Second Locke Lamora book. It features a greatly feared and successful female pirate captain who has her two children on board, and God help you if you so much as look at them the wrong way. She's a great character. 1
Mestiv he/him Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 I hate it when people confuse percents with percent points...
The Invested Beard Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 The "word" irregardless... Not really a word. smh Also appropriate for this time of year, when people say "Happy New Years!" Unless I'm in some sort of weird time loop I don't think multiple years are overlapping and occurring during the same 365 day period. 2
Iarwainiel I she/her Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 What an awesome topic! 10 pages in a month and a half! Since I'm a writer (for business, not creative), mine relate to words: "different than" - A thing cannot be different than something else; it can only be different from the other thing. It can be more different than the other thing is from a third thing, but it cannot just be different than. Think about it - the wording doesn't make sense. But you see this all the time. "lead" as the past tense of the verb "to lead" - This one is just everywhere. I have even seen it a couple times in Brandon's books and waaaaay a lot of other professionally published stuff. I blame it on spellcheck. The past tense of to lead is led, not lead. If lead is pronounced with the short "e" (the same as read / read), that word lead is the metal that's in paint that can poison young children. Please, I beg of you my fellow Sharders, join me and be a part of the led revival !!
Delightful Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Re lead, I thought both were acceptable. Like lept/leaped. Or is that also incorrect? 1
Stormgate he/him Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 As far as led/lead, I believe it is an example of language changing over time. 1
Delightful Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 When you ask someone an important "did you mean x or y" question and they answer with "yes". Thank you very much, you just cleared up nothing. 1
Zathoth Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Dont ask x or y questions. If you understood it correctly you have both saved time by the other person being able to just say yes, if you are wrong they will say no and hopefully add a clarification to it. Minor pet peeve relevant to to this forum: Spelling Scadrial Scadrail. I know it is not easy to remember names of fictional planets, it still annoys me just a little.
Mistrunner Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Pet peeve: Being able to say "I have to wake up in 3 hours." 2
Stormgate he/him Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Anyone else have a problem not knowing the correct capitalization for God Metals? (Is it Atium or atium?)
Curiosity he/him Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Anyone else have a problem not knowing the correct capitalization for God Metals? (Is it Atium or atium?) In Era 1, it's all lowercase. Even in Era 2, Marasi's use of the word is still lowercase.
Ookla the Absent Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 In Era 1, it's all lowercase. Even in Era 2, Marasi's use of the word is still lowercase. But not other peoples?
Iarwainiel I she/her Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 Good questions ... I'm looking it up. Re lead, I thought both were acceptable. Like lept/leaped. Or is that also incorrect? As far as led/lead, I believe it is an example of language changing over time. According to the online dictionaries I just checked (M-W, Cambridge, Webster's, MacMillan, American Heritage, and OED) and also several sites re: conjugating verbs in English, the past tense and past participle of "to lead" are still the word "led." It has not changed as of January 2016. However, since English is still a living language, it might happen someday. My prof in graduate school for History of the English Language thought that the word "went" would vanish within 100 years, replaced by some other form of "go/gone." I really do blame spellcheck re: "led." I never saw this problem until the past 10 years or so when we've all become so reliant on software and, as my moniker implies, I've been reading for quite a while. So maybe that's what bothers me: Language should evolve, but I feel like it should be changed by people, not computers... 1
Ookla the Absent Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 People bragging about their AD(H)D and/or depression. Suck it up, people, I've got my own problems. 1
Voidus Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 People bragging about their AD(H)D and/or depression. Suck it up, people, I've got my own problems. How on earth do you brag about either of those? I have suffered through some bouts of depression and I wouldn't want to have it again or really talk about it much at all except to give advice to others suffering from it.
Ookla the Absent Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 People talk about how depressed they were and how sucky their life is compared to yours and (sometimes) how they attempted suicide, all with a proud smile on their face, as if they accomplished something.
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 People talk about how depressed they were and how sucky their life is compared to yours and (sometimes) how they attempted suicide, all with a proud smile on their face, as if they accomplished something. People do that? I've suffered from depression since I was a teen, contemplated suicide more often than I care to admit, and have only recently begun to stabilize emotionally. I'm proud of how far I've come, but for years I was ashamed to even admit I felt depressed sometimes. 1
Ookla the Absent Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Yeah. They do. They also tend to talk about how other people can't possibly understand how freakin' difficult life's for 'em. I honestly feel like they're often just posers who think depression is edgy and will get them attention. And, at risk of sounding exactly like one, they don't seem to understand what it's really like. I suppose this really should be going on the Bad Day thread.
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