Jo and the Bush all/any Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 Susebron has enough breath and innate skill to make multiple Nightbloods.
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 Hoid vs. Wax. Hoid's eyes grinned up at Wax as he puffed away on his flute, producing what most nobles would undoubtedly call marvelous music. Wax didn't particularly care. What he cared about was the man's comment about immortality. "So I can't kill you?" Hoids head bobbed up and down in a nod, not interrupting his music. "And you say you can't kill me?" Another nod. "So the only way to win is for one of us to surrender?" A third nod. Wax swore, then grabbed the flute.out of the man's mouth and hurled it across the room, breaking it against the wall. "Are you ever going to talk?!" Hoid lowered his hands and eyed Wax with amusement. "Which is more valuable? A word freely given, or one earned through persistence?" "Philosophy? I don't have time for this." "And I do. I can sit here for the rest of eternity and never run out of questions Lord Ladrian. You however, need to go rrscue Marasai. She's been kidnapped again." Wax massaged the bridge of his nose as he thought. He couldn't kill the man, not only had he done nothing illegal, he had more healing abilities than Miles did. But nor could he defeat him through non-lethal means. "You're just going to annoy me until I surrender?" "Which man is better? The man who wins through an unfair advantage, or the man who loses due to equally unfair burdens?" Wax growled at the insufferable twit and turned, storming for the door. "You win this time Dust." Is the contestant with fewer nominations going to win every time? 5
Unodus he/him Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 I vote Vin. Allomancy is a lot more focused on combat than BioChroma, and Suesborn doesn't exactly have the amount of fighting experience that Vin has.
Alfa he/him Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 I think Vin wins.1. Vin sounds a lot like win, so Vin for the win, if this makes sense.2. If this does not make sense, allomancy is much more combat-orientated than awakening. 3. My personal and probably wrong theory (fabricated now) is, that awakening is disabled inside a coppercloud. Or, better told, the connection between the awakener and the awakened object, which means, awakened objects can be inside of it, but no new could be created. 4. Vin is a killer. Susebron is not.
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Well, even if Susebron doesn't get acces to Kalad's Phantoms and Hallendren's lifeless army he could still make his own army and still have magic to spare to the point were even a Mistborn can't stand up, so my vote goes to him. Edited October 6, 2015 by Edgedancer
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 I think Vin wins. 1. Vin sounds a lot like win, so Vin for the win, if this makes sense. 2. If this does not make sense, allomancy is much more combat-orientated than awakening. 3. My personal and probably wrong theory (fabricated now) is, that awakening is disabled inside a coppercloud. Or, better told, the connection between the awakener and the awakened object, which means, awakened objects can be inside of it, but no new could be created. 4. Vin is a killer. Susebron is not. 1. Vin sounds like Sin, so Vin is Evil, if that makes sense. 2. Awakening is much more versatile than Allomancy, especially for a God King who doesn't need spoken commands or training to awaken. 3. Why? You can still steelpush into or out of a bubble. All Copper would block is Susebron's Life sense. 4. As shown by my Wax vs. Hoid fight, you don't have to kill to win. And anyone can be a killer given the correct circumstances.
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 3. Why? You can still steelpush into or out of a bubble. All Copper would block is Susebron's Life sense. I wouldn't bet on that. Even if a coppercloud can block out Lifesense it seems safe to assume that all his Breath just pumps it up to the point were he can pierce her bubble.
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 True. So my vote is definitely on Susebron. (Not sure if I should red that or not)
STINK he/him Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 Vin, it's not the God King vs Allomancer, as if we want to do it with the both of them at their weakest then we have a God King who can't use their breath versus an Allomancer that is generally in good fitness anyway from burning pewter, and if Vin has metal then Vin would win easily. With the both of them at the height of their power though? It's still Vin because she is the one who fought against a Shard and won, which Susebron can't quite compare to.
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 Tthis isn't a straight up fight. This is a popularity Contest. Even if you can prove Vin would kill Susebron, I'd still vote For Suseborn because of his Incredible devotion to Siri and his arguably cooler power set. Also, Vin fought against a Shard and Died. I wouldn't call that winning. Her allies won, but she's dead.
STINK he/him Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 I'd still say it's good enough for a win, as going from a normal person to a Hybrid Shard must've been a difficult process.
Alvron Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Tthis isn't a straight up fight. This is a popularity Contest. It's a bit of both really. After all I doubt Human would win a popularity contest vs The Lopen. I for one look at this as a combat contest and try to judge who will win based on skill and abilities rather than who I like more. True. So my vote is definitely on Susebron. (Not sure if I should red that or not) I'm with you there. I've been putting my votes in red by default and having to go back and change them. Vin has my vote. Returned can be killed just like normal people (see: Blushweaver) while Mistborn can Pewterdrag to ignore most crippling wounds. While Susebron can Awaken his clothing to protect him I'm not sure they would have much luck against flying discs of metal. I think it will be another close fight but Vin will win in my opinion. Edited October 5, 2015 by Alvron
Newan he/him Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 This would be a fun fight to see, but I vote for Vin. Susebron has only ever been in one fight, in which he had much more power than anyone else. Vin is used to fighting in the face of overwhelming odds. Susebron has a good heart, but I don't think he has the grit or the wits to checkmate Vin.
RippleGylf she/her Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) But, at her highest power, Vin is Preservation, who isn't really big on the whole destroying thing. That's more like Ruin's area of expertise. However, I still think Vin would win. Because atium. Edited October 6, 2015 by RippleGylf
natc Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 But, at her highest power, Vin is Preservation, who isn't really big on the whole destroying thing. That's more like Ruin's area of expertise. However, I still think Vin would win. Because atium. At the height of her power She literally murders Ruin with her Preservation powers. She went kaput long before the intent took hold, which was the point of Leras's gambit in the first place.
Curiosity he/him Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Totally voting for Susebron. I've always liked him. No offense to Vin, but I am much more of the trusting type, which Susebron seems to be.
Moonskin she/her Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 My vote goes to Vin, I have a feeling that she could beat up pretty much everyone if she really needed to.
Patar he/him Posted October 6, 2015 Author Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) And Vin defeats Susebron in round 3! And in the next round, Szeth, the Assassin in White, will take on Alcatraz *insert cool description of Alcatraz here* (Sorry, I haven't read the Alcatraz series). Who will move on to the next round? Edited October 6, 2015 by patar365
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Lame. I'll let someone else right up that particular contest. As for Szeth vs. Alcatraz. . . Man. I don't know. I'm going to vote for Alcatraz for now.
Alfa he/him Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Damnation. This is a fight I want to see. Probably it will end with Szeth as the winner, but it will be close. (I still like Alcatraz more, but my vote is on Szeth) Can Alcatraz break a Honorblade?
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Well Crystin swords are said to be unbreakable, and he broke one of those.
Curiosity he/him Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Investiture might interfere with breaking Honorblades, but on the other hand he might be able to reflexively break bones from a distance or something like that. Plus he'll probably have a couple of really un-cool glasses on hand. I'll vote for Alcatraz, even though I pity Szeth more. We'll probably have to wait until his flashback book to see if I like him outside of his misery or not.
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Well, Alcatraz breaking talent is so absolutely broken that there probably isn't much he couldn't win against. Now getting his talent to work... should be doable in a life or death situation. Than there's also a wide variety of lenses he could use. Really, he's to much of a wild card that one could guarantee his victory but Alcatraz still gets my vote, plus he's more likable.
RippleGylf she/her Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Szeth at the end of WoR can totally take on Alcatraz. I mean, Nightblood? How is Alcatraz supposed to stand up to that?
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