DreamEternal Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 The hand of a priest who touched Nightblood became grey if I remember well. That probably means there is also spiritual damage... Of course, we don't quite know what would happen if Miles Hundredlifes got impaled by nightblood.
Alfa he/him Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 Nightblood! Nightblood! NIGHTBLOOD for evil must be destroyed!
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 I'm going to meta-vote this. Whoever wins this will be fighting against Vin, who I want to lose since Susebron was killed by her. I think that Nightblood would be more popular against her, so I vote for Him. NIGHTBLOOD FOR THE WIN!
Patar he/him Posted October 8, 2015 Author Posted October 8, 2015 I'm going to meta-vote this. Whoever wins this will be fighting against Vin, who I want to lose since Susebron was killed by her. I think that Nightblood would be more popular against her, so I vote for Him. NIGHTBLOOD FOR THE WIN! Szeth is going to fight Vin. If Nightblood wins, he will fight the winner of tomorrows match.
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 Oh right, I forgot the Szeth vs. Alcatraz vote.
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 Actualy, it checks if the person wants to use Nightblood for persobal gain if I remember well. It is in the warbreaker annotations, I think. I digged around the anotations and what I found is, well both This, of course, isn’t an easy thing to determine. In fact, I don’t think it’s a black or white issue for most people. When Nightblood was created, the Breaths infused in him did their best to interpret their Command. What they decided was evil was someone who would try to take the sword and use it for evil purposes, selling it, manipulating and extorting others, that sort of thing. Someone who wouldn’t want the sword for those reasons was determined to be good. If they touch the weapon, they feel sick. If others touch the weapon, their desire to kill and destroy with it is enhanced greatly. Nightblood himself, unfortunately, doesn’t quite understand what good and evil are. (This is mentioned later in the text.) However, he knows that his master can determine who is good and who is evil—using the sword’s power to make people sick, or through other means. So, he pretty much just lets whoever is holding him decide what is evil. And if the one holding the sword determines—deep within their heart—that they are evil themselves, then they will end up killing themselves with the sword. Given that Prof would have no reason to use the sword over his powers I guess he would still pass both ways, making him Nightblood's new owner and default winner.
Alfa he/him Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 I digged around the anotations and what I found is, well both Given that Prof would have no reason to use the sword over his powers I guess he would still pass both ways, making him Nightblood's new owner and default winner. Deep Inside prof knows and fears, that he is an "evil" Epic, I think.
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 Deep Inside prof knows and fears, that he is an "evil" Epic, I think.Depends which book we are talking about. And even then he should pass the Nightblood test given that while he may consider himself evil he wouldn't use the sword for evil.
Patar he/him Posted October 8, 2015 Author Posted October 8, 2015 And Nightblood wins this one easily! And in the next round, watch The Lord Ruler, the Sliver of Infinity, take on Obliteration!
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 Obliteration. The Lord Ruler doesn't stand a chance against an Epic who can reach the temperature of the freaking sun. Plus, Obliteration would judge TLR to be deserving of death on a million different levels, so he wouldn't rest until TLR was obliterated.
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 I'd have to go with Obliteration. For one I like him more, so there's that. Apart from that, he would probably win a fight. Given that he immediately teleports away, when in danger, the Lord Ruler can't do anything against him and Obliteration is an expert in tracking down and killing godlike beings. On the other hand no amount of compounding will help him Rashek, when Obliteration just reduces his metal minds to ashes. Now, one might say that TLR could use Zinc and Steel compounding to react and run away from Obliteration but honestly, The Final Empire has shown the Lord Ruler to be borderline incompetent in combat and tecnically even a compounder can run out of resources.
Alfa he/him Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 Would be close. Three or four rounds at least, i think. TLR has more chances. TLR has Feruchemical Gold, Allomantic Atium, other Allomantic/Feruchemic abilities and a ton of knowledge. Unluckily for him, he has no Inquisitors, but he is still the most powerful mortal being in Scadrial for a long time.Obliteration has his epic abilities with teleportation and other stuff. Let us Assume he had not a week time to prepare the "ultimate Obliteration explosion". In the End probably TLR will manage to checkmate Obliteration with two shot Coins; one to the place where Obliteration will appear (Atium-shadow) after dodging the other coin.
Unodus he/him Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 I vote The Lord Ruler. Being able to compound every metal... Even an epic as strong as Obliteration would struggle against that. A brassmind would counter Obliterations heat manipulation, meaning Obliterations main asset is to teleport- which can only be used every few minutes, apparently, so I imagine he could only run so long. Even without his copperminds, TLR still has pewter to withstand the heat, and atium to checkmate Obliteration. I say it would definitely be an epic fight, though.
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 Would be close. Three or four rounds at least, i think. TLR has more chances. TLR has Feruchemical Gold, Allomantic Atium, other Allomantic/Feruchemic abilities and a ton of knowledge. Unluckily for him, he has no Inquisitors, but he is still the most powerful mortal being in Scadrial for a long time. Obliteration has his epic abilities with teleportation and other stuff. Let us Assume he had not a week time to prepare the "ultimate Obliteration explosion". In the End probably TLR will manage to checkmate Obliteration with two shot Coins; one to the place where Obliteration will appear (Atium-shadow) after dodging the other coin. 1)Gold minds are usless once destroyed by the temperatures Obliteration can reach almost casually, for they would be destroyed. (same goes for any other of his metals) 2)Using allomantic Atium means he wouldn't be compounding it at the time and before he gets that idea he's dead. 3)The distance Obliteration teleport would be way to large for TLR to predict or hit 4)A lack of cooldown for Obliteration means that he'd just teleport from the second coin as well. (yes, he apparently used to have one but that's like saying the Lord Ruler doesn't get the Allomancy from Lerasium) 5)Being the most powerful being on Scadrial is actually a giant disadvantage that caused him to be near incompetend in fight in the first place. 6)If we give Obliteration that one week to prepare, he could just blast all of Luthadel away and wouldn't even have to engage in a fight. I vote The Lord Ruler. Being able to compound every metal... Even an epic as strong as Obliteration would struggle against that. A brassmind would counter Obliterations heat manipulation, meaning Obliterations main asset is to teleport- which can only be used every few minutes, apparently, so I imagine he could only run so long. Even without his copperminds, TLR still has pewter to withstand the heat, and atium to checkmate Obliteration. I say it would definitely be an epic fight, though. There's a limit to how much one can store, so brass wouldn't make much of a difference against Obliteration and his metals wouldn't help tanking his attacks, because after taking a single hit they would be gone.
Alfa he/him Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 IIRC, the limit of Feruchemical storing is slightly different; you can't go below natural Zero-lines. If you are being grilled you can store more heat, because you are farther from Point Zero. Oh, and I forgot, that TLR is a incredibly powerful soother. I am very sure that a soothed Obliteration would be far less dangerous than usually.
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) Maybe (although I don't remember anything backing that up) but by not coming closer to point zero his metal minds would still be obliterated and no metal minds means no storing. Plus, metalminds have a maximum amount they can store, an amount Obliteration should hit pretty damnation fast. I dunno, between his insane fanatical willpower and the supernatural entity already brainwashing him, I doubt the effect would be as strong as usual. Given how resourceful Obliteration is, getting his hands on an alluinium hat shouldn't be to much of a challange either. Edited October 8, 2015 by Edgedancer
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 But would Obliteration know about aluminum? He wouldn't need to know about it in advance. He's from the Reckonerverse, figuring out stuff like that is common practice and if I remember correclty aluminium was even used as fancy cutlery and stuff like that specifically because it's anit allomancy properties were known to a certain degree, so for someone not under the information quelling it wouldn't be that hard to figure out. Then again it doesn't really matter. given that in a scenario where he could go and investigate he also could just store up and nuke TLR from outside the range of anything he could do.
Mailliw73 he/him Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 Dang, both of these guys are badchull fighters in their own rights. I want to say Obliteration, but this: Sorry, but that's the most badchull picture I've ever seen. I vote TLR. 1
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 Dang, both of these guys are badchull fighters in their own rights. I want to say Obliteration, but this: Sorry, but that's the most badchull picture I've ever seen. I vote TLR. It'd be way more badchull if he could fight worth a darn.
Mailliw73 he/him Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 He doesn't need to fight. Melted metals still hold a charge, I assume.
Alfa he/him Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 They do. Unluckily it is not clear if you can fill or tap them while they are liquid.Double-gold are the only ones who will be resistant enought to try it.
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 Unless Obliteration heats them so far past the point of melting that they turn to dust.
DreamEternal Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) I vote Lord Ruler. Because I dislike the Reckonerverse for no good reason. THERE, I SAID IT!!!! Edited October 8, 2015 by CognitivePulsePattern
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 I vote Lord Ruler. Because I dislike the Reckonerverse for no good reason. THERE, I SAID IT!!!! So long as you don't oppose Reckoners fans asking Reckoners questions as signings, no hard feelings.
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