Blaze1616 he/him Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 huh, that''s intersting. WEll, I assumed the lawsuit was ridiculous because I assumed harriet was telling the truth because she had no reason to lie. It is possible that the studio brought a page out of the aes sedai book and "informed" her in a way that she would misunderstand, so that she was officially told about that episode even if she had no knowledge of it. Or maybe she forgot (I suppose she has plenty of work meeting regarding the wot production rights), in which case she can claim it was an error in good faith from her part and retract the statement. I have no idea how that would result legally. I thought the same thing, about the "informing" in a way that it is misunderstood. The problem with that possibility, though, is that Harriet went to their offices to discuss this, according to Manetheren. Moreover, she brought her attorney with her. I would like to think the attorney in charge of WoT has some wits and brains about them, no? Her forgetting is totally possible, depending on how much interaction she had with her assistan/attorney prior to making the post. Retracting her statement would hopefully solve the issue, though Manetheren could ask for some "small" fee in addition to the retraction and an apology as a settlement for the law suit. Anyway, she can at least say that the adaptation is crap without being liable for it. In all technicallity, assuming Manetheren has documentation for everything in the "facts" list, she actually can't say negative things about the production without breaking the agreement. I was merely stating that the production being crappy plays no role in the law suit. 1
Topomouse he/him Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Nice analysis Blaze! After reading about the lawsuit i feared that the situation was about as you described it, but I hoped I was wrong. The thing that keep my hopes down is that, as you said, Harriet and Manetheren's statements are directly contradictory, and it seems to me that both of them have no reason to risk and lie about things in public statements. So if I had to bet on which one that made the literally true statement between: 1) a company who is in the middle of a legally legitimate but "morally" questionable move 2) a private citizen who maybe spoke in the heat of the moment. If think I would bet on the first one.
Blaze1616 he/him Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 Nice analysis Blaze! After reading about the lawsuit i feared that the situation was about as you described it, but I hoped I was wrong. The thing that keep my hopes down is that, as you said, Harriet and Manetheren's statements are directly contradictory, and it seems to me that both of them have no reason to risk and lie about things in public statements. So if I had to bet on which one that made the literally true statement between: 1) a company who is in the middle of a legally legitimate but "morally" questionable move 2) a private citizen who maybe spoke in the heat of the moment. If think I would bet on the first one. Exactly. A law suit is a bit drastic if Manetheren is just posturing. The fact that they went so far as a law suit tells me they have all the documentation I talked about. The question then becomes why Harriet would make a post with false information. Being an editor I highly doubt she's unaware of the legal consequences. So did she really not know Universal's claim ended last year around now? Even having gone to meet Sony and Radar employees regarding the matter? It's a very cloudy situation right now, and we barely have any information. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out, though I've got a sinking feeling it's not going to go well for Harriet.
Gamma Fiend he/him Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 Quick, somebody use a large burst of balefire on this entire production! Make it so it never happened! 3
bschnebs he/him Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Found this link today. http://www.reddit.com/r/WoT/comments/30jhxi/update_on_the_wheel_of_time_pilot_lawsuit/ It contains updates on the lawsuit from some law student that has easier access to the court documents than us regular slontzes. 3
Topomouse he/him Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Good find! This was a very interesting read.
bschnebs he/him Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 Apparently the hearing on the motion to dismiss 3 of the 4 complaints that was supposed to happen April 27 got postponed til June 1.
king of nowhere Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 is there any news about it? in a form that is comprehensible to soomeone not familiar with law?
bschnebs he/him Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 I saw it on reddit by user: https://www.reddit.com/user/Halo6819 I attempted to attend the hearing on Monday, only to find out after sitting through another hearing that it had been postponed to June 1. Barring work constraints, I will try to sit in on that hearing and report back.
bschnebs he/him Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 Hearing on motion to dismiss has been postponed again to 6 July 2015. Found a page where a fan/lawyer is explains the motions. http://mobi-wan-kenobi.kinja.com/an-update-on-that-wheel-of-time-lawsuit-1707233225 1
AerionBFII he/him Posted May 31, 2015 Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) I think i finally understand what parents feel when they are forced to watch a truly awful school play.... Edited May 31, 2015 by WEZ313 2
Young Bard he/him Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 I think i finally understand what parents feel when they are forced to watch a truly awful school play.... What, the way that it just never ... seems ... to ... end... Or possibly the way that there is that awful person that you just feel like screaming "Get out! I hate you! Never come back again!" Or how about the "original" story which is just the same sad, old, depressing plotline you have seen in everything ever. Also, why did it need to get delayed twice? I'm not familiar with law, but someone had an issue with the June date, couldn't they have just said so and saved everybody the trouble from negotiating a new date again. The only reason I can think that this would be done is if REE knows that it will fall through the moment it hits the courts, so they're just delaying the result and keeping Harriet's lawyers tied up. 1
mchaelzimmerman Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 For reference here is the Dragonmount news article discussing it. To be honest, I'm not particularly hopeful. Thaanks a lot for the reference!! 1
bschnebs he/him Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 And the lawsuit has been dropped as of July 2. Apparently they're working out some kind of settlement.
Young Bard he/him Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Here's the link I found for the above mentioned dismissal, if anyone's interested. http://mobi-wan-kenobi.kinja.com/that-wheel-of-time-lawsuit-is-over-1715956286
stgermaine Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 It is official! Legal issues have been figured out and a "cutting edge" show is in the works! https://plus.google.com/u/0/103674399065634804648/posts/1aeEKJiqdeF
stgermaine Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 I posted a new thread, but then saw this. It is apparently happening on the up-and-up now, and hopefully done well. https://plus.google.com/u/0/103674399065634804648/posts/1aeEKJiqdeF
RShara she/her Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 http://www.tor.com/2016/04/28/tv-rights-to-the-wheel-of-time-optioned-by-new-studio-with-jordan-estates-approval/ Things are looking up for the Wheel of Time TV series!
Nashan’Elin he/him Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 I really, really want this to happen. This looks like it will be better than that-which-shall-not-be-spoken-of, so I'm tentatively getting my hopes up.
Young Bard he/him Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 It's still only been optioned out. They might not get funding. Hate to be a downer like this, but it's the same with this as it is with all those other options that I want to make something of. Stormlight, Mistborn, Alcatraz and The Emperor's Soul have all been optioned, but it seems unlikely that anything will happen with them at this point.
Eerongal he/him Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 FYI I Merged the three similar threads all about this into one.
king of nowhere Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 yeah, they say it "will happen". When announcements like that say that something "will happen", I'll believe it after it happened. maybe.
Yata he/him Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) I am really afraid of a WoT on TV... I don't want to find something like the recent TV portings of many fantasy Edited April 30, 2016 by Yata
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