Tulir he/him Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 So, this is why I was so interested in the witness role last cycle. I'm a witness. And I saw Antillar Maximus. I'm sure he'll claim the reverse, so if he does, just kill us both to be sure. I don't mind dying to take out an OC or Odium. EDIT: This is also why I was asking in the Roshar PM group if anybody knew or had access to Cultivation. I wouldn't have spoken up so easily if I had had someone to PM about it. Like Maw said, it is much better to wait until later to post this, because, assuming you are right, the OCs can just hide in the ensuing vote on Antillar. This happened in a previous game, I think Game 4, and Aonar did a similar thing, IIRC. I'm casting my vote for him, as I think he is more suspicious than you are, but if he has a very good defense, or he happens to be good, I probably will switch my vote onto you.
Araris Valerian he/him Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 So, I guess there are a few possibilities here: 1) Vineyarddawg is actually the witness and Martin is actually an OC. This seems the most likely because it is the simplest possibility 2) Same as above except Martin is a villager that got invested by Odium last night and decided to use the kill, doesn't seem very likely at all 3) Vineyarddawg is a random person that decided to claim witness and picked Martin. I don't see this as too likely, but if someone had to leave the game and wanted to die in a couple cycles this would certainly do it. 4) Vineyarddawg is an OC that is trying to protect the person that made the kill on Mek, and Martin is the person that the blame fell on or even the real witness I have to go now, so I'll try and comment on these a bit later.
Antillar Maximus he/him Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) I see now that I am in a tight spot. Does using the witness ability really make me look that bad? It seems as though he beat me to the first post. I am indeed a witness and vineyarddawg killed Mek. I don't really know whether or not he is trying to set the bad people on me but now might be a good chance to see who is teaming on me. I feel the same way. I wouldn't mind dying if I could take a champion with me. I do believe I was the one asking about a one for one trade. That was building up to me using the ability and taking someone out with me. I don't know if he is good or not but I will probably die either way.There isn't even a reason for me to vote on him because I don't know anything still. He could be ruin for all I know...It was probably smart for you to vote first Dawg. You seem to have convinced several people that I am bad or you may just have found a good way to send all the champions at a witness for a free kill. Edited February 9, 2015 by little wilson merged triple post 2
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted February 9, 2015 Author Posted February 9, 2015 @Antillar. Please don't triple post, just use the Edit Function. Joe, does the Witness get explicitly mentioned in the write-up ? Does the Witness get publicly revealed, or revealed to just the killer? Could'ave sworn I'd clarified these somewhere. The Witness will be hinted at, not outright said. The witness is revealed to the killer, who is revealed to the Witness.
Feligon he/him Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 I'm going to put my vote on Peng. I've been suspicious of him all game and I think that he has a 1/5 chance of not being an OC. The OC's can conspire and one of them is probably the operator and moved the lifeless onto him just to be safe in the first round when he was getting poked.
Peng the Just he/him Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Antillar Maximus. for obvious reasons. However, I'm susupisious of vineyard dawg as well. If he was an eliminator and knew he got caught, he'd probably do exactly what he did in an effort to take antillar with him I'm going to put my vote on Peng. I've been suspicious of him all game and I think that he has a 1/5 chance of not being an OC. The OC's can conspire and one of them is probably the operator and moved the lifeless onto him just to be safe in the first round when he was getting poked. The names that I wanted to bring up this day turn were Bort and Peng. Peng for obvious reasons. The village has honour, so it would make sense to balance that with lifeless operators for the eliminators. Not only that, but he has had nothing to say against those who would have seen him dead, despite being online to post things like “Thanks Devotion J”. Distinctly unhelpful. I’d like to hear something from you mate. Doesn’t even have to be an essay, but at least tell all these nasty people that want your head to storm off, and mind their own storming business. Not being active makes me guilty? Ok... Most games I'm not terribly active in to start. I prefer to wait and watch until I have something to go on. Edit: fixed quote to be the right thing Edited February 9, 2015 by jasonpenguin
Guest Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 Well, "latin" is one of the tags. That would seemingly refer to Antillar, but whether it means he's the witness or the OC, I have no clue.
Feligon he/him Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Not being active makes me guilty? Ok... Most games I'm not terribly active in to start. I prefer to wait and watch until I have something to go on. that's totally not what I said, it's the lifeless save that makes you look guilty, not being inactive. edit: clarity, blue, peng(but i'm still suspicious), Antillar Maximus Edited February 9, 2015 by Feligon
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted February 9, 2015 Author Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) In these Games, GM's will occasionally put in 'secret' roles. Or roles that are unknown to the general populace. Some people believe I have put such a role in. The Whole point of a secret role, is that the GM will neither Confirm or deny the existence of such a role, and so also cannot tell people the rules of such a role, were it to exist. Tl:DR. Stop asking about secret roles. EDIT: And Snoopy, the Latin Tag refers to the title of the day. Edited February 9, 2015 by The Only Joe 3
Guest Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 Crem! There goes my theory about the tag. Just when I thought I found an Easter Egg...
ostrichofevil he/him Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 As I said last cycle, I am already suspicious of Antillar. 1
Splinter he/him Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) I'm for Antilar Maximus, who just recently showed up on Yolen. First of all, there are very few players on Yolen, making it easy to kill us all off, without drawing to much attention while doing it. Yolen already started off with only five players on it, but now that Smart Guy and Mckeedee are dead it leaves only only Winter and I. Because there are only two players on Yolen Odium and his OCs could kill them all off before we would realize what was happening. Second of all, Odium could have sent him to gather information. EDIT: Punctuation Edited February 9, 2015 by swalji09 1
Tulir he/him Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 I see now that I am in a tight spot. Does using the witness ability really make me look that bad? It seems as though he beat me to the first post. I am indeed a witness and vineyarddawg killed Mek. I don't really know whether or not he is trying to set the bad people on me but now might be a good chance to see who is teaming on me. I feel the same way. I wouldn't mind dying if I could take a champion with me. I do believe I was the one asking about a one for one trade. That was building up to me using the ability and taking someone out with me. I don't know if he is good or not but I will probably die either way. There isn't even a reason for me to vote on him because I don't know anything still. He could be ruin for all I know... It was probably smart for you to vote first Dawg. You seem to have convinced several people that I am bad or you may just have found a good way to send all the champions at a witness for a free kill. Vineyarddawg managed to post first, which doesn't prove anything. What it does mean, though, unless something radical happens, you are getting lynched. If you happen to not be an OC and either are a Witness or normal villager, than Vineyarddawg's lifespan drops incredibly. 1
Mailliw73 he/him Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 I was more suspicious of Antillar before, but his defense sounded very innocent. I also can't see what the OCs would have to gain by fake-claiming first. I can understand being accused and the fake claiming as a last ditch effort, but a preemptive strike doesn't make much sense to me. I'd like to see Vine's response to Antillar before I make a final vote though.
Peng the Just he/him Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 that's totally not what I said, it's the lifeless save that makes you look guilty, not being inactive. edit: clarity, blue, peng(but i'm still suspicious), Antillar Maximus Sorry, totally quoted the wrong person in my defense there. Whoops. I meant to quote what eol said about me. In regards to what you said, my role is a lifeless operator. I think that's fairly clear at this point.
Guest Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) And since you saved yourself, you're basically a normal Villagerunless you're an OC....... ... Yes, that would seem to be an accurate assessment... Edited February 9, 2015 by Snoopy
ostrichofevil he/him Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 VOTES: Antilar 7 Winter 1 Peng 1 Vineyerian 1
Gamma Fiend he/him Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 Well it looks like the lynchtrain is doing it's think on Ant. His defense does basically seem like the exact scenario that's been mentioned, so there was really nothing to go off of there. Although that is interesting if he recently showed up on Yolen, like Swalji posted above, that is rather suspicious. One thing real quick though: In these Games, GM's will occasionally put in 'secret' roles. Or roles that are unknown to the general populace. Some people believe I have put such a role in. The Whole point of a secret role, is that the GM will neither Confirm or deny the existence of such a role, and so also cannot tell people the rules of such a role, were it to exist. Tl:DR. Stop asking about secret roles. Eh, as a past GM, I can say, that I did thoroughly enjoy trolling players in my LG6 game when being asked about the possibility of a secret role, and while I did leave them on the hook for it for a day or so, I ultimately only trolled the possibility because I didn't in fact have a secret role, but even then, I relented rather quickly. And really, isn't this game complicated enough without secret roles??
vineyarddawg Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Vineyarddawg managed to post first, which doesn't prove anything. What it does mean, though, unless something radical happens, you are getting lynched. If you happen to not be an OC and either are a Witness or normal villager, than Vineyarddawg's lifespan drops incredibly. Precisely. The proof will be in the pudding, so to speak. I was more suspicious of Antillar before, but his defense sounded very innocent. I also can't see what the OCs would have to gain by fake-claiming first. I can understand being accused and the fake claiming as a last ditch effort, but a preemptive strike doesn't make much sense to me. I'd like to see Vine's response to Antillar before I make a final vote though. I hear what you're saying, Maillw, but I don't know what response I could give that would be able to 100% convince you. We discussed the double-claim scenario a good bit in the Night 2 thread. It's my word against Antillar's, essentially.
Splinter he/him Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 If Antillar is indeed killed I don't think we should take it in to consideration who voted for him. Now that he has so many votes it's almost impossible that he won't be killed (unless a Shard lashes him). Because so many poeple have voted for Antillar an OC could vote for him and it would hardly make a difference. What I'm trying to say is that IF Antillar is evil some of the later votes on him could very likely be OCs trying to divert attention away from themselves by voting on one of their own. (Sorry about the sloppiness of this post, I'm tired)
Antillar Maximus he/him Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Whooooo! Nine votes already. Looking good guys. You will be disappointed with the results though. Well obviously not the OCs. I don't see any reason to vote seeing how I am going to die either from being lynched or from odium later tonight. 1
Araris Valerian he/him Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Well, being mostly settled on killing Martin, perhaps we should get a head start on discussion for what we should do next, particularly the possible outcomes of this lynch. It seems that, assuming one of vineyarddawg or Martin is telling the truth, we have 1) A live witness and a dead eliminator, in which case protection roles should probably get put on the witness 2) A live eliminator and a dead witness, which probably should lead to a Ruin kill 3) Both of them are village witnesses, but one got invested by Odium and decided to use a kill on someone they suspected and didn't expect another witness to exist. This is extremely unlikely and there isn't much we could do about it, although it would stink if we lost 2 witnesses in 1 cycle 4) Both of them are eliminators and one is a witness. This doesn't seem likely, since we could check on the accuracy of the witness each night; essentially 2 free kills for us I guess I'm a bit suspicious of Peng and Winter, so I don't think I need to add onto the train of death headed for my brother but will probably vote for one of the above two next cycle. 1
Ashiok Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Actually, my case was COMPLETELY different. But that's neither here nor there. I don't think I can keep playing this game. So sorry!
dowanx Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) Whoa nine votes on Ant already... something doesn't seem right about this. Why the bandwagon? Ant hasn't given me any reason to vote for him although his defense seems a little weak. Vine you should of waited til later in the cycle to post and that is the main reason I am voting for you although there is something else that feels off, I just can't put my finger on it. We should have had more discussion between Ant and Vine. What has really piqued my curiosity is that so many players jumped on that bandwagon. Peng you said you voting for him for obvious reasons, care to elaborate? Edited February 10, 2015 by dowanx
Antillar Maximus he/him Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Once again I would like to say that there isn't much point in voting for vine. Maybe he just got unlucky with his kill. Honestly I would vote on some of the people that grouped up on me such as Gamma. 2
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