Long Game 10: A Game of Shards

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Ok, despite my efforts to the contrary, I have once again given conflicting Clarifications. So this is official, and apologies to any plans it will upset, but Odium's entire unshattered shard will be given to the last person he invested in. I will attempt to be more careful with what clarifications I give.

 

EDIT: And happy Birthday JasonPenguin! (According to the main page)

Edited February 10, 2015 by The Only Joe

[Bort he/him]

How have I been acting suspiciously? I explained the things that downax pointed me out for. What else have I not explained about my behavior?

 

I'll admit, it may just be my inexperience at this game, but after reading through last cycle's thread, I wasn't buying your explanations.

 

Edit: And Happy Birthday Peng

Edited February 10, 2015 by Bort

[Unodus he/him]

No point trying to organize a no lynch here, we've already discussed the possibility of a double claim. We've got a 50-50 chance of hitting an Eliminator, that's good enough stakes for me.

Antillar Maximus

There is no counterargument great enough to sway this lynch from either Ant or Vine, I feel. 

If Ant is the Eliminator, Honor (or another protector role) can protect Vine from Odiums kill order. If Ant isn't the Eliminator, we lose the Witness, but we also know that Vine is undeniably an Eliminator- and Ruin can then kill them with his Shardic power over the night phase. Either way, an Eliminator is killed. What else is there to discuss?

 

Me boarding the train now is a little unnecessary, I admit- but I'd rather not have the lynch swayed by a rogue shard (again x.x). 

[twelfthrootoftwo]

Vineyardawg and Antillar Maximus, what were your results for last cycle?

 

As things stand, I'm more suspicious of Antillar, and I'll move my vote to him (unless I am persuaded otherwise) if it looks like the lynch might swing elsewhere. A quick model suggests that a symmetrical witness counterclaim is preferred for the OCs in all cases except where it's already probable the true killer will be lynched (which was not the case when Antillar made his claim), so that's not helpful.

[Gamma Fiend he/him]

Once again I would like to say that there isn't much point in voting for vine.  Maybe he just got unlucky with his kill.  Honestly I would vote on some of the people that grouped up on me such as Gamma.

I don't think votes are considered grouping on you when you are the more suspicious of the two people in question. (Vine and yourself). Because I did actually wait to see what you said in defense before voting for you. First you pointed the finger at Vine, but didn't vote for him even though you still only had a handful of votes against you at the time. And then you even suggested that he could maybe have been the Ruin kill? As all Odium kills have been being shown with red smoke in the write-ups and are very distinct. So I'll be keeping my vote on you.

Edited February 10, 2015 by Gamma Fiend
Grammar

[Bort he/him]

Bort, what exactly did you not "buy" so I can explain in further detail?

 

Most of your assertions of innocence, if I'm being honest. I'm not sure what it was about them, they just struck me as a bit off.

[Guest]

Winter is innocent. This has been your public service announcement.

[Metacognition he/him]

Looks like Winter is right, there's no stopping this lynch, even if I wanted to (I don't). Snoopy, that is a very bold statement. The only people who can do that are Team Rayse and Shards. Since you've basically outed Winter in one regard or the other, perhaps you'd like to clarify?

[Antillar Maximus he/him]

Voting for vine doesn't make any sense.  And actually the finger was pointed at me with his first post saying that I did the killing.  The only reason pressure was put on my was because of vine's first post as well as my moving to Yolen.

[Guest]

Looks like Winter is right, there's no stopping this lynch, even if I wanted to (I don't). Snoopy, that is a very bold statement. The only people who can do that are Team Rayse and Shards. Since you've basically outed Winter in one regard or the other, perhaps you'd like to clarify?

No. I would not. Perhaps the fact that Devotion prevented me from being lynched should show some of you that I am good. Besides, you can't even vote for me!

[Metacognition he/him]

No. I would not. Perhaps the fact that Devotion prevented me from being lynched should show some of you that I am good. Besides, you can't even vote for me!

 

Well, you're right that I can't vote for you (forgot about that), that definitely doesn't clear you. All that it means is that Devotion (at this point, you've said too much for it to be anyone other than Winter. You probably shouldn't be so free with information!) confirmed themselves to you by telling you ahead of time that they were going to use their ability on you. Whether or not they had any reason to trust you or if they picked you out randomly has yet to be seen.

 

Either way, since I can't vote for Snoopy, I'll go back to Sarc. 

[Peng the Just he/him]

First of all, thank you for the birthday wishes everybody.

 

Secondly, I didn't recognize gamma at first. How long ago did you change your profile?

 

Thirdly, and actually relevant to the game, I am moving my vote from ant to vine. It seems odd to me that we haven't seen any resistance to the lynch, which means the spiked are on board with it. That could mean that they've given up, but who's guilty is clearly not set in stone yet.

 

Lastly, in regards to what winter said, so I'm innocent unless I'm guilty? tautology is tautological. 

[Lightsworn Panda he/him]

 

Looks like Winter is right, there's no stopping this lynch, even if I wanted to (I don't). Snoopy, that is a very bold statement. The only people who can do that are Team Rayse and Shards. Since you've basically outed Winter in one regard or the other, perhaps you'd like to clarify?

No. I would not. Perhaps the fact that Devotion prevented me from being lynched should show some of you that I am good. Besides, you can't even vote for me!

 

 

Loudly proclaiming one's innocence is far from the best way of affirming yourself on Team Villagers. Also, leaking information and plugging it just as quickly is often regarded as suspicious behavior. Being invulnerable to lynches doesn't make you good, either. It just means Devotion has taken a particular interest in you.

 

Finally, could we all please use blue text? I know some of us may have computer issues, or are using the Mobile version, but could we all at least try to use blue text?

 

Edit: Ha Ha, Colour editor.

Edited February 10, 2015 by Lightsworn Panda

[Metacognition he/him]

Blue text was never meant to be used as Out Of Character speech. It was meant for Out Of Game speech (like wishing Peng a Happy Birthday! ). At some point in time, everyone started using it to distinguish between their RP and their game discussions, but it wasn't necessary. Even if you go back and look at the General Rules, you can see this is the case. 

 

Besides, 90% of these games recently (I'm as much to blame right now as anyone) is not "In Character." If people did more of their discussion and planning and such within their RP, then sure, using blue text for the purposes of non-conventional game discussion could be worthwhile. Instead, almost everything most people write is in blue anymore! If anything, we should have a color to indicate RP at this point, as it would make it a lot easier on people who have issues with the color editor, like yourself, Jain! 

[leiftinspace he/him]

Vikings can barely type, let alone change the rusting colors of their vurds.

[Tulir he/him]

Winter is innocent. This has been your public service announcement.

Ok, I have some problems with you saying that.  Like Meta said, if we are to believe that neither of you two are OCs, then you have just given them a target.  And what is the point in saying that this cycle?  It doesn't make sense, as the majority of the conflict is between Vineyarddawg and Antillar, Winter wasn't even threatened.  So why did you feel the need to step in?

 

No. I would not. Perhaps the fact that Devotion prevented me from being lynched should show some of you that I am good. Besides, you can't even vote for me!

 

Well, you're right that I can't vote for you (forgot about that), that definitely doesn't clear you. All that it means is that Devotion (at this point, you've said too much for it to be anyone other than Winter. You probably shouldn't be so free with information!) confirmed themselves to you by telling you ahead of time that they were going to use their ability on you. Whether or not they had any reason to trust you or if they picked you out randomly has yet to be seen.

 

Either way, since I can't vote for Snoopy, I'll go back to Sarc. 

 

Like Jain said, proclaiming your innocence loudly is one of the more suspicious things to do.  Also, like Meta said, it really means nothing about your alignment that you were selected by Devotion.  They could have just picked someone they felt like they trusted, but it doesn't confirm your alignment either way.

[Antillar Maximus he/him]

Sorry I can't convince you guys to vote for someone else.  Good luck without me and I will see you all in the next game!

[Tulir he/him]

Ok, now I am just confused.  I don't think I've ever scene an OC carry out the deception until their death, normally they reveal themselves if everything is stacked against them.  I still will keep my vote on Antillar, but now I am doubting myself.  If you are innocent, I am sorry.

 

And for fun, a quick vote tally:

Antillar (9): Vineyarddawg, Eolhondras, Tulir, Feligion, ostrichofevil, swalji09, Winter, Gamma, Unodus

Winter (1): Bort

Vineyarddawg (3): Maw, Dowanx, Peng

Gamma (1): Antillar

Sarc (1): Meta

[Araris Valerian he/him]

Well, personally I have never seen an OC before, let alone one that confessed. However, this is a bit reminiscent of another LG in which Wilson, who is always an eliminator regardless of what the GM says, convinced everyone that my villager self was evil. The thing is, there is no reason for a villager to claim being an OC, but some eliminators like to go out in style. If probabilities were nice, this would mean that Antillar only has like a 25% chance of being bad, but since mind games exist there isn't much we can do (unless there is a protection role that stops a lynch. I'm not completely sure, but I think one of that shards can do that) and that would mostly just waste a lynch unless a whole bunch of people tried to coordinate powers to determine the real witness without a lynch.

[Antillar Maximus he/him]

No hard feelings Tulir.  I know now that a one for one trade will be worth it.  I would have died even if I wasn't lynched today.

[leiftinspace he/him]

I'm still suspicious by everyone jumping on the bandwagon for ant max, so I'm voting for viney

[Antillar Maximus he/him]

Gamma, Vineyarddawg

[Guest]

Antillar (9): Vineyarddawg, Eolhondras, Tulir, Feligion, ostrichofevil, swalji09, Winter, Gamma, Unodus

Winter (1): Bort

Vineyarddawg (5): Maw, Dowanx, Peng, leiftinspace, Antillar

Sarc (1): Meta

Trying to pull off a last-minute play, are we Antillar?

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Night 3: Clouded Eyes

 

“I’m telling you! I saw him! He was the one who killed Mek!” The crem slammed his fist onto the table. “He’s just trying to save his own skin!”

 

Martin spat onto the floor in front of Vineyerian. “You’re a liar. You were the one to kill Mek. I don’t know how you saw me, but I know you’re one of the Champions.” He could already see he was a lost cause. More and more villagers were supporting Vineyerian Dagar, just because he had spoken up first.

 

“Alright people. I can see which way the winds blow, it’s obvious I’m going to die today. But That will just prove to you that Dagar is one of the Champions. I’ll be happy if my death starts the fall of Odium.” He faced his fellows, many of whom he had known for a long time. Others new.

 

This actually had some results, some few grew uncertain, and looked to Vineyerian with increased Suspicion. Maybe he could still aid the Shards.

 

“Alright then, “One of the ones behind Dagar growled, “We’ve decided to kill him. No point in wasting time about it.” Several of them nodded, and pulled out weapons.

 

“Alright then.” Martin closed his eye, then pulled out a dagger. The men coming for him pulled up abruptly, suddenly on guard, waiting for him to attack. But he had no such intentions. Instead, he buried the knife in his own Chest. He fell to one knee, rapidly bleeding out. Not exactly how I expected to meet my death, he thought wryly. One of them, Longbeard, grabbed him, putting his hand over the bleeding.

 

“Why? Why would you sacrifice yourself?”

 

“Because I see with eyes unclouded, by Hate.” And with that, Martin expired, leaving no Smoke to mark his guilt.

 

Antillar Maximus was the Witness!

 

Votes:

Antillar Maximus(10):Vineyarddawg, Eolhondras, Tulir, Feligon, Ostrichofevil, swalji09, winter cloud, Gamma Fiend, Unodus

Vineyarddawg(5): Mailliw73, Dowanx, JasonPenguin, leiftinspace, Antillar Maximus

Winter Cloud(1): Bort

Sarcomere(1): Metacognition

 

Night 3 has begun! It will end at 10pm PST on Wednesday the 11th.

 

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

And the Night is live again.