LG112 - Metacycle Seven: And Another One

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

Lettuce

I think we oughta try and figure out who was converted after we get rid of all the OG elims, mainly using the argument that this way we’ll get down to a single elim faster and parity becomes less of a threat

Now, can someone remind me/explain to me why we think Lettuce is more likely to be an elim over Star when they were both pseudo-elims?

I agree with TJ’s sentiment that Xino would be somewhat OP and that a meta-elim Coinshot woulda taken his shot and not hesitated

Oh and also guys I am officially in full swing vacation so I should have a lot and I mean a lot more free time, probably not for this game cause it’s nearing the end but maybe a little and I should sign up for the next one as well

@Qianweilian I must admit I am somewhat disappointed to have just checked my PMs and found nothing

[Araris Valerian he/him]

2 hours ago, StrikerEZ said:

Yeah basically. The thought process is that there’s no world in which someone wasn’t converted. And I was just looking at the playlist for who’s left and thinking who would make the most sense to convert. And I think it has to be Araris here.

I mean, I am clearly the best choice for a last-minute elim conversion , but we should definitely determine between xino and Lettuce here before hunting the convert. In a large part because if the elims know who we are considering as a likely convert, they can factor that into their NK.

Did anyone have PMs with xino or Lettuce? Right now all we really have to work with is mechanical, since neither of them has posted anything of substance the whole game. Neither of them claimed to be in any of my shardworld docs.

[Myst He/Him]

16 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

I mean, I am clearly the best choice for a last-minute elim conversion , but we should definitely determine between xino and Lettuce here before hunting the convert. In a large part because if the elims know who we are considering as a likely convert, they can factor that into their NK.

Did anyone have PMs with xino or Lettuce? Right now all we really have to work with is mechanical, since neither of them has posted anything of substance the whole game. Neither of them claimed to be in any of my shardworld docs.

I had one with both.

More importantly, Coco claimed to have one with Lettuce, and got quite a lot of info from lettuce somehow.

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

39 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

I mean, I am clearly the best choice for a last-minute elim conversion ,

Ehh I think I’d be a pretty good choice myself ngl

I have very few PMs, not with Xino nor Lettuce - though I did have one with Coco

[coco.pudding she/they]

3 hours ago, Myst said:

More importantly, Coco claimed to have one with Lettuce, and got quite a lot of info from lettuce somehow.

I had a pm with both of them!

But neither of them said much…most of the information I got about Lettuce was from TJ…very naughty of him, sharing so much

I had PMs with everyone but people stopped talking to me when they decided I was elim, which was very rude 

[Myst He/Him]

6 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

I had a pm with both of them!

Highly doubt that. Unless it was just for purposes of “having” the PM. 

7 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

But neither of them said much…most of the information I got about Lettuce was from TJ…very naughty of him, sharing so much

You see, but in our PM you said you got that from Lettuce, and so the fact that you lied(either to me earlier or just now) suggests that Lettuce is elim

8 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

I had PMs with everyone but people stopped talking to me when they decided I was elim, which was very rude 

I was kinda dead before we started thinking you were elim, so… not sure what you want

[Qianweilian He/him]

9 hours ago, Hoid Slayer said:

@Qianweilian I must admit I am somewhat disappointed to have just checked my PMs and found nothing

Ah, well you can't expect to get bailed out of certain defeat before the eliminators every game, can you?

5 hours ago, coco.pudding said:

But neither of them said much…most of the information I got about Lettuce was from TJ…very naughty of him, sharing so much

Made TJ an easy to decide nk. As soon as he revealed he was pseudo IM, boom. Dead. TJ, if you're reading this, know you were killed pretty much entirely because you were far too dangerous to the elim team.

5 hours ago, Myst said:

Highly doubt that. Unless it was just for purposes of “having” the PM. 

I mean, some people really do like to PM and chat with everyone. Coco might be one of them. I only had PMs with you, Myst, Striker, and Xino. Pretty much all of those fell silent after the first couple cycles.

I wonder what the lore is around me still being able to post. Maybe I made an alt account, but still got locked out of the Shard's infrastructure?

[|TJ| he/him]

12 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

Made TJ an easy to decide nk. As soon as he revealed he was pseudo IM, boom. Dead. TJ, if you're reading this, know you were killed pretty much entirely because you were far too dangerous to the elim team.

I shall remind you that it wasn't me who revealed it to the thread that I was pseudo-IM >>

ahem ___ ahem :P. 

(but also you could have converted me smh, you didn't have to kill me .-. )

Edited Friday at 11:19 AM by |TJ|

[Qianweilian He/him]

34 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

(but also you could have converted me smh, you didn't have to kill me .-. )

Yeah, and what would you have done when you found out that Verdance made me a coinshot? Actually, because the GMs couldn't find a pinch hitter, they allowed me to submit Verdance's action.

Also, I got a GM PM message meant for you, funnily enough. I thought Verdance had made me a coinshot, but it turns out it was meant for you. The GMs only realized/told me after Verdance died, but luckily, the GMs let us retcon the previous cycle's actions, having me instead submit the kill and Verdance making me a coinshot, as I certainly would've acted differently with correct information, and it made no difference to anyone other than me.

[|TJ| he/him]

On 6/15/2026 at 1:23 AM, Stardust said:

Okay, I’m going to put all the actions I took below, you guys can read that if you want. First, though, I need to ask the GMs @The Unknown Medallion@Through the living Wahr I’m not a coinshot, Im a tineye. Is that a mistake, or did you forget to tell me something in my GM PM? 
Edit: okay, you said it right in the write up, just not in the spoiler box where you list all the players. 
 

Okay, here are all of my actions. I don’t have an ability Metacycle, so I didn’t do anything there. 
P1: I gave three investure to Striker. So yeah, I was one of the people who got duped by Striker. 
P2: I sent the tineye message because I was pretty ticked at Striker. I then gave two investure to coco, who I thought I could trust

P3: I gave two investure to striker and two to TJ

P4: I forgot to submit an action, but I was going to submit the kill for the pseudo elims. 
P5: I was going to move to threnody, but the kill was forced upon me, which was randomized to kill Qian. 
 

Well, thats it for me. I have more analysis I want to do, but I’m on mobile so it’ll have to wait till tomorrow. 
Coco

Could you tell us your Shardworld locations? 

And if someone could corroborate Star's location in the final pseudo-cycle, it would be very helpful. 

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

3 hours ago, Qianweilian said:

Yeah, and what would you have done when you found out that Verdance made me a coinshot? Actually, because the GMs couldn't find a pinch hitter, they allowed me to submit Verdance's action.

Also, I got a GM PM message meant for you, funnily enough. I thought Verdance had made me a coinshot, but it turns out it was meant for you. The GMs only realized/told me after Verdance died, but luckily, the GMs let us retcon the previous cycle's actions, having me instead submit the kill and Verdance making me a coinshot, as I certainly would've acted differently with correct information, and it made no difference to anyone other than me.

Wut I lost the plot

[Myst He/Him]

38 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

Could you tell us your Shardworld locations? 

And if someone could corroborate Star's location in the final pseudo-cycle, it would be very helpful. 

All I know is that she was on Nalthis the for the first two cycles

3 hours ago, Qianweilian said:

Yeah, and what would you have done when you found out that Verdance made me a coinshot? Actually, because the GMs couldn't find a pinch hitter, they allowed me to submit Verdance's action.

Also, I got a GM PM message meant for you, funnily enough. I thought Verdance had made me a coinshot, but it turns out it was meant for you. The GMs only realized/told me after Verdance died, but luckily, the GMs let us retcon the previous cycle's actions, having me instead submit the kill and Verdance making me a coinshot, as I certainly would've acted differently with correct information, and it made no difference to anyone other than me.

It’s like that one time Striker gave me the information that there was an illusionist on accident(in his game)

[|TJ| he/him]

1 hour ago, Myst said:

All I know is that she was on Nalthis the for the first two cycles

Interestingly, the same strat used by Coco. 

Could I have the list of the 8 C1 Nalthians. 

There is probably a way to solve this, especially with Qian's info-dump. The important info here is that Qian is the final-turned Coinshot who killed Star. 

But if Qian has been camped on Sel, then the only way to shoot (non-Selish) Star would be by spending Investiture. But as Qian has been on Sel since C2, there is a very very small chance that Qian had any investiture at all. Investiture sent towards Sel never reaches the target because of Sel powers. The ONLY way this can happen is if TWO players target Qian and send them Investiture, they would then receive ONE charge. This is a massive waste of action economy and I do not think Qian had a charge to kill a non-Selish Star. But then, Star's randomised kill did not go through, which clearly means that Star was NOT on Sel and Qian was most definitely on Sel. The question is, how did Qian kill Star? 

Where was Qian staying in C1?

[Araris Valerian he/him]

19 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

Where was Qian staying in C1?

Probably not Nalthis, since both coco and Verdance were there and were public in the doc.

21 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

The ONLY way this can happen is if TWO players target Qian and send them Investiture, they would then receive ONE charge.

If the sending players are both on Nalthis, then the target would receive 2 investiture. Though some of the Nalthis investiture sending doesn't take an action, so I'm not even sure if it interacts with Sel.

[Qianweilian He/him]

3 hours ago, |TJ| said:

Could you tell us your Shardworld locations?

No.

3 hours ago, Myst said:

All I know is that she was on Nalthis the for the first two cycles

Was Nalthis just a party this game?

43 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

But then, Star's randomised kill did not go through, which clearly means that Star was NOT on Sel and Qian was most definitely on Sel.

Afaik both players being on Sel, or even taking actions without a target, is irrelevant to both Sel's protection and investiture requirements.

40 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

The question is, how did Qian kill Star?

I'll tell you when the game ends.

41 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

Where was Qian staying in C1?

Good question. (I'll tell you when the game ends)

[coco.pudding she/they]

1 hour ago, |TJ| said:

Where was Qian staying in C1?

So actually we were both on the secret elim exclusive shardworld for the entire game and the imposter in the Nalthis doc was not me

[Qianweilian He/him]

43 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

So actually we were both on the secret elim exclusive shardworld for the entire game and the imposter in the Nalthis doc was not me

It's Yolen. It gives you the ability to summon dragons, which look cool, but don't actually do anything.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

If anyone was wondering why dead players normally aren't allowed to talk in the thread, this is why .

[Through the living Wahr He/Him]

Honestly this thread is more Dead Doc then actuall thread.

[Qianweilian He/him]

9 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

If anyone was wondering why dead players normally aren't allowed to talk in the thread, this is why .

What, you don't like me taunting you? There's also the fact that a lot of GMs give spoilers in the dead doc, which might be a better reason.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

59 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

What, you don't like me taunting you? There's also the fact that a lot of GMs give spoilers in the dead doc, which might be a better reason.

As the resident old-grouch-guy-on-porch, I’m pretty much immune to taunts, but clutter goes against my aesthetic. All I want to do is sit back and hear the lamentations of my enemies, but instead all the ghosts (which don’t exist btw) are making a racket..

[Qianweilian He/him]

11 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

As the resident old-grouch-guy-on-porch, I’m pretty much immune to taunts, but clutter goes against my aesthetic. All I want to do is sit back and hear the lamentations of my enemies, but instead all the ghosts (which don’t exist btw) are making a racket..

I mean, canonically we're just banned. Maybe we made alt accounts.

[StrikerEZ he/him]

I think I’m fine with a Lettuce exe since no one seemed to want to bite on my Araris vote.

[Myst He/Him]

4 hours ago, |TJ| said:

Could I have the list of the 8 C1 Nalthians. 

C1 was:

Ver, Myst, Striker, Coco, Star, Mippo, Twin, Hoid, and Araris

(there could be more people who didn’t claim in doc. Like Araris)

3 hours ago, Qianweilian said:

Was Nalthis just a party this game?

Yes

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

4 minutes ago, Myst said:

C1 was:

Ver, Myst, Striker, Coco, Star, Mippo, Twin, Hoid, and Araris

(there could be more people who didn’t claim in doc. Like Araris)

Yes

I stayed on Nalthis the entire game I just never spoke after the first time