QF79 Cycle 3 - I Love Democracy

[coco.pudding she/they]

3 minutes ago, Verdance said:

The theory is that both of you are elim though 

Yes, I am aware of that fact. I am also well aware that my survival next cycle hinges on Fizz flipping village.

Village me is bothered that two days in a row we have had virtually no effort at a counter train on someone who there is very little evidence against. I am simply stating the truth. If you believe I am elim, you are entitled to not believe anything I say. But I can at least try to have a productive conversation and try to solve the game, since that’s what I am playing to do.

[___ He/Him]

15 hours ago, Fizz9 said:

This is basically what I said to Myst. Same info, different writing.

 

C1: I get PM ability. I open one with Star. Mostly ignore the game. 

C2: I see the Penguin stuff, so I ask them. Mostly reaction fishing. In the end I was deciding between Myst and Penguin. I fliped a coin. Heads, so Myst. I wasn't thinking about previous votes much during that. People did not like that, so I removed the vote. I had no reason to keep it. I opened a PM with Mippo.

C3: This. Myst does not like me right now, and I am trying to decide what to do. Opened PM with Myst.

 

EDITED BECAUSE I CAN'T COPY PASTE

Yeah I got a pm. Not much has happened other than me asking fizz whether he had any other abilities and him saying no.

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

7 hours ago, Through the living Wahr said:

Yes, but it still bugs me that there isn't even an attempt at an Countertrain, I have the feeling that we are missing something, I just dont know what we are missing.

The best explanation for a countertrain is that the elims have decided to bus/not oppose Fizz. Doing so would implicate them after his flip, so not pursuing him or even being on the train is much safer

[coco.pudding she/they]

K well @Fizz9 reminder to drop any useful info you may have before you die. If you flip village, we’ll probably actually trust what you say. 

[StrikerEZ he/him]

@Myst @Verdance @coco.pudding @___ @Through The Living Star @Fizz9 @Through the living Wahr @DrakeMarshall @IcedOutPenguin @The Unknown Medallion We’ve got just under three hours left. Please make sure to get all your votes and actions in before rollover!

Current VC:

Fizz9 (4): Myst, Verdance, DrakeMarshall, The Unknown Medallion

Please let me know if I’ve missed any votes. 

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

PSA that my vote doesn't count today

again >:[

anyone want to claim responsibility for this time or the last time?

 

...in any case, y'all should be the change you want to see in the world

If multiple people are saying they're unhappy there's no counterwagon, then go out and make one 

Fizz' response to being voted hasn't especially made me want to back off, sorry Fizz if you're village. But I would still actually prefer if we had more than one (1) option under discussion. Whether or not Fizz is a hit, the lack of movement is not good.

I'm really not the right person to be doing this  given my position on Fizz, and the fact that my vote doesn't count.

But cowabunga it is  to put my cards on the table, I'm dubious about Coco's claimed ability. I'm not sure that I buy there's a scanner with 2+ actions in the game (still no definite answer on that but it must be at least 2 based on what Coco has said so far), high power level or no. I'm also not sure that I buy those scan results.

Now, there's an argument to leave Coco alive and see if more scans come in, which could help us sort things out by just waiting. That might well be the right argument, I'm not sure.

But somehow I think elim Coco just says she got blocked. Or village Coco actually does get blocked. In the meantime we might keep voting out the wrong people, whereas addressing this gives us either a dead elim and a suspect pool of 2 or at least 2 hardclears.

....so maybe we just bite the bullet and exe the scanner

Thoughts?

5 hours ago, coco.pudding said:

Same. I am bothered that no attempts at a counter train have been made the last two days (until the very end of yesterday). This indicates to me that we’re probably not on the right track with Fizz. But I am willing to vote him I guess, I just don’t think he’s an elim, I don’t feel like the elims would let one of their own go so early like this.

...Coco's also been dissatisfied with the Fizz train without quite going as far as trying to stop it, which has me tinfoiling Coco/Fizz E/V.

5 hours ago, coco.pudding said:

Yes, I am aware of that fact. I am also well aware that my survival next cycle hinges on Fizz flipping village.

also tying her alignment to Fizz' flip here, although TBF I think Myst really did that first

am I playing devil's advocate here well maybe a little but storm it somebody's gotta do something here and I think we really should be talking about whether we believe the scanner claimant more than we are

[coco.pudding she/they]

37 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

If multiple people are saying they're unhappy there's no counterwagon, then go out and make one 

See but last time I did that it made everyone decide I’m elim, which is why I’ve decided to not do it again.

38 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

I'm not sure that I buy there's a scanner with 2+ actions in the game (still no definite answer on that but it must be at least 2 based on what Coco has said so far), high power level or no. I'm also not sure that I buy those scan results.

It’s not exactly a scanner, all I can see is if they have pms with anyone. If they don’t, that means they can’t be elim. I just got lucky and hit two people who didn’t have any pms.

39 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

Now, there's an argument to leave Coco alive and see if more scans come in, which could help us sort things out by just waiting. That might well be the right argument, I'm not sure.

I will happily continue scanning and sharing my results for as long as you all/the elims let me. That being said it might become less useful as time goes on and more people get pms.

40 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

Coco's also been dissatisfied with the Fizz train without quite going as far as trying to stop it, which has me tinfoiling Coco/Fizz E/V.

Again, when I tried to stop it yesterday everyone decided I’m elim because of it. So that’s why I’m not trying harder today. Also, I’ve been at work all day today and will continue to be until rollover so I can’t really have a back and forth like yesterday.

41 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

TBF I think Myst really did that first

He did, yes.

42 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

am I playing devil's advocate here well maybe a little but storm it somebody's gotta do something here and I think we really should be talking about whether we believe the scanner claimant more than we are

I mean, nobody’s bothering believing me because they’ve all jumped to assuming I’m elim and everything I say is a lie, which is (I assume) why there’s not much discussion of whether or not I’m telling the truth about my scans. 

[Through the living Wahr He/Him]

14 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

I mean, nobody’s bothering believing me because they’ve all jumped to assuming I’m elim and everything I say is a lie, which is (I assume) why there’s not much discussion of whether or not I’m telling the truth about my scans. 

Well I am inclined to believe that your scan results are accurate, yes I know that doesnt mean much since they clear me, but I know that I dont have private Player communication and am therefore inclined to believe that your claim about TUM is also true.

 

 

[IcedOutPenguin He/Him]

1 hour ago, StrikerEZ said:

@Myst @Verdance @coco.pudding @___ @Through The Living Star @Fizz9 @Through the living Wahr @DrakeMarshall @IcedOutPenguin @The Unknown Medallion We’ve got just under three hours left. Please make sure to get all your votes and actions in before rollover!

Mine doesn't count today

[___ He/Him]

59 minutes ago, IcedOutPenguin said:

Mine doesn't count today

Neither does mine, but I'll go and vote penguin. It seems likely that you wrote the message, as it seems any suspicion instantly came off you

[StrikerEZ he/him]

And that's the Cycle! No more posting, voting, or submitting actions till we get the next one out!