Anniversary Game 11/Anonymous Game 15: Memory of Tyrian Falls

[Chartreuse Penguin]

1 hour ago, Chartreuse Penguin said:

 Stupid mobile formatting

 

31 minutes ago, Mint Heron said:

I generally agree with your first two paragraphs, but I disagree with your actual suspicions. I would say that Falcon is the least suspicious, and Hayden is probably the most likely to be spiked. You also are joining a train against me, not starting it. Weasel accused me first.

"I guess it's semantics, but I didn't think it could be a train until a second person Joined, therefore I made it a train. Anyhow, Its still early the day today, so as more people wake up and come join us, perhaps we can learn more of the nature of the protection and the attack. I know many of you like to sneak around at night"

[Ivory Dragonfly]

14 hours ago, Emerald Falcon said:

I'd expect that was the work of a Coinshot, specifically an innocent-aligned Coinshot trying to resolve the other person who had been accused a lot. It's unlikely that the saboteurs would attempt to murder someone who had almost died the day before, unless they thought he was powerful. I also find it unlikely that anyone would attempt to save someone in his position, so chances are high that he is a Thug. That's certainly interesting.

I will note now that I'd originally thought the drunk man was highly unlikely ever able to burn metals, since he did not claim when under high amounts of pressure. Regardless of if the saboteurs could burn metals as well, meaning that a claim isn't necessarily clearing. I don't find his survival to be indicative of if he is innocent or not, but perhaps could explain why the saboteurs did not attempt to influence the votes if he is a saboteur, knowing that he would live.

However:

To which, I'm not sure what this attack would be classified as now. Picking up on details is not exactly a strength of mine. If this was an attack made by saboteurs, that's... certainly a choice, I suppose.

That means either:

1. He is a Thug and was shot by either an innocent or a saboteur.
2. He was protected by a Lurcher (and shot by either an innocent or a saboteur).

 

"Huh?" Sew stared at Falcon with a fair amount of confusion. He called himself an observer, but he was getting something very wrong.

"Were you not payin' attention? We already knew he could burn metal, and we already knew what he is. The drunk's said it twice already. He's a Lurcher!"

First, when talking to the late gambler, he mentioned he could burn metals, but hadn't in a couple years.

He reaffirmed it as well.

Then he actually mentioned what he burns, while interrogating that Acks fellow. He asked what would happen if he burned iron.

Then he threatened Acks with using it to Pull on him. Normally I've seen Iron used to protect, so that's a novel use.

Now, Sew was kind of baffled why Hayden had claimed that in broad daylight. That would certainly paint a target on his back. If he could actually protect people, that would be mighty nice for the village to have. She supposed the man was blabbing while drunk, but even that seemed like a poor excuse. Was he just caught up in the moment?

"Look, I'm really not likin' you Mr. Observer (Emerald Falcon). You were stretchin' like crazy to try and find an elim out of Hayden, Alais, and Acks. Those three were probably the most talkative, and yet you had to suspect them. I don't get it, and I don't like it. Now you're goin' wildly off base, thinkin' he wouldn't claim? Phooey. Don't think you're a Spiked, but you can't keep makin' stuff up."

Wait a second... Let me look a little closer at Day 1. Something's rotten, but I'm not sure what

Edited January 14, 2025 by Ivory Dragonfly
Adding a little more

[Emerald Falcon]

1 hour ago, Ivory Dragonfly said:

"Huh?" Sew stared at Falcon with a fair amount of confusion. He called himself an observer, but he was getting something very wrong.

"Were you not payin' attention? We already knew he could burn metal, and we already knew what he is. The drunk's said it twice already. He's a Lurcher!"

First, when talking to the late gambler, he mentioned he could burn metals, but hadn't in a couple years.

He reaffirmed it as well.

Then he actually mentioned what he burns, while interrogating that Acks fellow. He asked what would happen if he burned iron.

Then he threatened Acks with using it to Pull on him. Normally I've seen Iron used to protect, so that's a novel use.

Now, Sew was kind of baffled why Hayden had claimed that in broad daylight. That would certainly paint a target on his back. If he could actually protect people, that would be mighty nice for the village to have. She supposed the man was blabbing while drunk, but even that seemed like a poor excuse. Was he just caught up in the moment?

"Look, I'm really not likin' you Mr. Observer (Emerald Falcon). You were stretchin' like crazy to try and find an elim out of Hayden, Alais, and Acks. Those three were probably the most talkative, and yet you had to suspect them. I don't get it, and I don't like it. Now you're goin' wildly off base, thinkin' he wouldn't claim? Phooey. Don't think you're a Spiked, but you can't keep makin' stuff up."

Wait a second... Let me look a little closer at Day 1. Something's rotten, but I'm not sure what

OOC: I don't have the energy to write, sorry.

As usual, my lack of reading comprehension wins again. Thanks for clarifying, I didn't notice it at all yesterday somehow.

That does clear up my confusion a lot.

[Mauve Crocodile]

Apologies for being absent, I've had a busy week. 

I will start by rereading D1 and N1. I've struggled to find my footing this game which is strange, I'm unsure if it's the anonymity factor or if I am simply out of practice, but I've opened the thread several times today and closed it right after. 

I'm setting a personal goal for myself to formulate a reads list, or at least a tiered list of names to express reads on everyone that has posted (has everyone posted at least once? I would hope so.) before I turn in for the night today. I have also sent all of you a PM, apologies for being the one to start them and then not following up, I will get to that hopefully tomorrow.

I see that Tuatara has been saved from an elim kill, so that should make them village-aligned barring elim-on-elim fire, which I would bet does not occur N1 in most cases. Usually it's more of a desperate measure, so I'm ready to clear Tuatara. 

 

Praise the Ja 

 

 

EDIT:

A request for everyone, if you're voting using RP names I would really appreciate a /Account-Name next to the vote or an @ to the account name, just to make things simpler?

 

Praise the Ja

 

EDIT:

Emerald Falcon seems pretty genuine to me, suggesting the elims did not try to kill anyone last night feels uninformed. We know the spiked and coinshot kills are differentiated in the writeup. This was certainly a spiked kill. I think this makes Falcon a villager. At the moment, this is probably the read I feel strongest about.  

 

Praise the Ja

[Mauve Crocodile]

 

EDIT:

Emerald Falcon: not realizing this was a spiked shot and not a coinshot, this is village.
Cream Tuatara: target of attempted murder, this better be village. 
Ivory Dragonfly: they knew Tuatara's role and as elim they do not attempt to shoot them, this is village.

If Dragonfly is an elim, then so is Tuatara.

Coral Swan: mostly a gut v read
Charcoal Hyena: I don't quite remember why I was side-eyeing them yesterday, but on a D1 reread they seem quite alright for the most part.

--------------------(Below are not villagery)-----------------------

Azure Mouse
Amethyst Scorpion
Mint Heron
Fuchsia Ostrich

I realize this isn't everyone, but I've already run out of steam. Leaving my vote on Ostrich for the time being.

 

Praise the Ja

[Amber Vulture]

Sauve Chad follows only the Cream Tuatara, for he has been spared once from the Lord Ruler's Wrath.

[Indigo Weasel]

13 hours ago, Mint Heron said:

His main suspicions today are on Crocodile, Weasel and Tuatara.

Do you still suspect Tuatara? 

1 hour ago, Mauve Crocodile said:

Emerald Falcon: not realizing this was a spiked shot and not a coinshot, this is village.

 Nibbles must bag-uette the question, is it a reasonable leap to assume there's no night kill in the game? Nibbles thought Falcon might be trying a little too hard to avoid the impression of TMI there

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Send your grievances to Sauve Chad by letter, for Tyrian Falls is a crowded place where small voices are not heard.

@Amber Vulture Are you just PM spidering this game? 

@Cream Tuatara how's it going! 

[Chartreuse Penguin]

People are chatting privately?! And only one person ha reached out to me!? Rude. Jk I only have one chat but I'm aware it's because I haven't reached out to anyone myself. So it's fine

[Indigo Weasel]

11 minutes ago, Chartreuse Penguin said:

People are chatting privately?! And only one person ha reached out to me!? Rude. Jk I only have one chat but I'm aware it's because I haven't reached out to anyone myself. So it's fine

Nibbles will chat privately with you! 

Spoiler

Let's taco  about finding some other Heron votes. If they flip evil, it reflects well on Tuatata, which would solve that question for Nibbles 

 

[Azure Mouse]

I'm had my focuses diverted. I feel a fool, unfit for the watch I had aimed to keep. The attack on Hayden strikes me as odd, firstly, especially what with him being the second voice to be removed. It would be wrong to directly assume a play, but it is interesting.

Either a self attack, or a curious choice. The saboteurs surely want to eliminate the biggest threat at night. But why Tuatara? To imply him the same as I would indicate that they are comfortable. A low-information kill, or perhaps they were mocking us.

 

Which implies them among those unsuspected. Immediately, my mind goes to the Observer (OOC: Falcon), but I'm not sure it's time for that yet. Perhaps Byrar (OOC:Heron) as well. But this would be impulsive to group them. Regardless, the comment indicated by that seeking young girl (OOC: Dragonfly) would imply a non-grouping between her and the Observer. There's certainly more that I've not completely looked over, but my notes from the start of this day.

[Cream Tuatara]

2 hours ago, Indigo Weasel said:

Do you still suspect Tuatara? 

 Nibbles must bag-uette the question, is it a reasonable leap to assume there's no night kill in the game? Nibbles thought Falcon might be trying a little too hard to avoid the impression of TMI there

@Amber Vulture Are you just PM spidering this game? 

@Cream Tuatara how's it going! 

I think the attack was more likely a villager than a saboteur, but I could be wrong

6 hours ago, Ivory Dragonfly said:

"Huh?" Sew stared at Falcon with a fair amount of confusion. He called himself an observer, but he was getting something very wrong.

"Were you not payin' attention? We already knew he could burn metal, and we already knew what he is. The drunk's said it twice already. He's a Lurcher!"

First, when talking to the late gambler, he mentioned he could burn metals, but hadn't in a couple years.

He reaffirmed it as well.

Then he actually mentioned what he burns, while interrogating that Acks fellow. He asked what would happen if he burned iron.

Then he threatened Acks with using it to Pull on him. Normally I've seen Iron used to protect, so that's a novel use.

Now, Sew was kind of baffled why Hayden had claimed that in broad daylight. That would certainly paint a target on his back. If he could actually protect people, that would be mighty nice for the village to have. She supposed the man was blabbing while drunk, but even that seemed like a poor excuse. Was he just caught up in the moment?

"Look, I'm really not likin' you Mr. Observer (Emerald Falcon). You were stretchin' like crazy to try and find an elim out of Hayden, Alais, and Acks. Those three were probably the most talkative, and yet you had to suspect them. I don't get it, and I don't like it. Now you're goin' wildly off base, thinkin' he wouldn't claim? Phooey. Don't think you're a Spiked, but you can't keep makin' stuff up."

Wait a second... Let me look a little closer at Day 1. Something's rotten, but I'm not sure what

exactly, I lurched myself just in case of an attack.

[Kasimir he/him]

The GMs would like to remind everyone to bold their votes, both to make sure we don't miss it while counting and for accessibility reasons. There've been some difficulties already and that's very much avoidable. 

Thank you!

[Azure Mouse]

39 minutes ago, Cream Tuatara said:

I think the attack was more likely a villager than a saboteur, but I could be wrong

exactly, I lurched myself just in case of an attack.

Hm. Curious. "Did you think you would likely die here? Why?"

That's... an odd intuition.

[Ivory Dragonfly]

After reading in depth the previous day's events, Sew had several questions. First and foremost, which of these villagers were her parents? If any parents could please stand up, that would be great. Second, and probably more importantly, she still had to figure out why the gambler had died. The reasons given weren't exactly great. Two of the culprits had been chatting recently, so it was time to start asking questions.

1 hour ago, Azure Mouse said:

I'm had my focuses diverted. I feel a fool, unfit for the watch I had aimed to keep. The attack on Hayden strikes me as odd, firstly, especially what with him being the second voice to be removed. It would be wrong to directly assume a play, but it is interesting.

Either a self attack, or a curious choice. The saboteurs surely want to eliminate the biggest threat at night. But why Tuatara? To imply him the same as I would indicate that they are comfortable. A low-information kill, or perhaps they were mocking us.

 

Which implies them among those unsuspected. Immediately, my mind goes to the Observer (OOC: Falcon), but I'm not sure it's time for that yet. Perhaps Byrar (OOC:Heron) as well. But this would be impulsive to group them. Regardless, the comment indicated by that seeking young girl (OOC: Dragonfly) would imply a non-grouping between her and the Observer. There's certainly more that I've not completely looked over, but my notes from the start of this day.

"You voted on him first, right?" She turned to the watcher (Not to be confused with the observer). "Here's what you said..."

"So let me get this straight. You voted on him, cause he cast the first stone? Somebody had to do it. We have to accuse each other if we want to make progress. Were you plannin' on votin' anyone who voted? That's rich."

Sew turned next to the drunk. She didn't want to talk to him. He'd been so nice, and yet that violence in him scared her.

"Hayden, I thought you was gettin' on well with Alais. What happened? Here's what you said..."

"He was tellin' the truth. He knew how to make the metals, but couldn't burn 'em. I hope you've sobered up. We need you to focus."

41 minutes ago, Cream Tuatara said:

I think the attack was more likely a villager than a saboteur, but I could be wrong

exactly, I lurched myself just in case of an attack.

"You seem less slurred to me now. You recall why you voted for him?"

Sew looked around for the third voter. Where the heck was Lysia? Apparently, she had caught sick.

Sew didn't want to pick on the ill, but she had to know what was going on. She had seen the tinkerer lurking around, so she didn't feel too bad asking this.

"Look, I'll be straight with you. Lysia @Charcoal Hyena you're real fishy to me right now. I got no clue why you voted Alais out. Here's what you said..."

"I get tryin' to gather up the vote. That makes sense. However, two people had two votes, and plenty only had one. Why'd you go after Alais in particular? You don't say, so I can't tell. I know you're sick, but I need answers. If Hayden really did fake his attack, you're who I'd suspect to be his compatriot. Give me some reasoning, and maybe we can talk more."

Edited January 15, 2025 by Ivory Dragonfly
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[Azure Mouse]

3 minutes ago, Ivory Dragonfly said:

"You voted on him first, right?" She turned to the watcher (Not to be confused with the observer). "Here's what you said..."

"So let me get this straight. You voted on him, cause he cast the first stone? Somebody had to do it. We have to accuse each other if we want to make progress. Were you plannin' on votin' anyone who voted? That's rich."

I'm not entirely surprised by this accusation, but I turn towards it regardless. My reasoning is open, but I frown. "I was wrong."

My words are simple.  I don't feel the need to defend myself from this. "I thought him out of touch, and I disliked his own approach."
 

[Mint Heron]

5 hours ago, Ivory Dragonfly said:

"I get tryin' to gather up the vote. That makes sense. However, two people had two votes, and plenty only had one. Why'd you go after Alais in particular? You don't say, so I can't tell. I know you're sick, but I need answers. If Hayden really did fake his attack, you're who I'd suspect to be his compatriot. Give me some reasoning, and maybe we can talk more."

“Because little one” Byrar says tiredly, “There could be soothers or rioters who could easily change things so that any person with one vote on them had a 50% chance of death. 

[Charcoal Hyena]

6 hours ago, Ivory Dragonfly said:

Sew looked around for the third voter. Where the heck was Lysia? Apparently, she had caught sick.

Sew didn't want to pick on the ill, but she had to know what was going on. She had seen the tinkerer lurking around, so she didn't feel too bad asking this.

"Look, I'll be straight with you. Lysia @Charcoal Hyena you're real fishy to me right now. I got no clue why you voted Alais out. Here's what you said..."

"I get tryin' to gather up the vote. That makes sense. However, two people had two votes, and plenty only had one. Why'd you go after Alais in particular? You don't say, so I can't tell. I know you're sick, but I need answers. If Hayden really did fake his attack, you're who I'd suspect to be his compatriot. Give me some reasoning, and maybe we can talk more."

To be honest, I didn't think too hard about it. My only major reason for voting Albatross over Tuatara was that the votes on Albatross were older, and thus more likely to be random village votes than targeted Elim votes.

[Mauve Crocodile]

9 hours ago, Indigo Weasel said:

Nibbles must bag-uette the question, is it a reasonable leap to assume there's no night kill in the game? Nibbles thought Falcon might be trying a little too hard to avoid the impression of TMI there

Mm @Emerald Falcon if your first thought looking at those night results was that Tuatara was shot by a villager, where did you think the NK went? You didn’t speculate much on why the spiked wouldn’t submit a night kill. 
 

 

Praise the Ja

Edited January 15, 2025 by Mauve Crocodile

[Indigo Weasel]

Heron Mouse

 

[Mint Heron]

Byrar continues to be baffled at the voting of Nibbles (Weasel) and questions the Jaist (Crocodile). 

But now his attention is drawn by how Sew (Dragonfly) seems to be working pretty hard to defend Hayden (Tautara) by attacking those who voted for him the previous day.

Ostrich has continued to say almost nothing, and Vulture has said very little, although it's possible he's sticking to private messaging.

[Mauve Crocodile]

2 hours ago, Mint Heron said:

Byrar continues to be baffled at the voting of Nibbles (Weasel) and questions the Jaist (Crocodile). 

I'm not voting Weasel. Did you mean Hyena?

If you think Hyena is a villager I'm willing to hear you out!

 

Praise the Ja

[Mint Heron]

22 minutes ago, Mauve Crocodile said:

I'm not voting Weasel. Did you mean Hyena?

If you think Hyena is a villager I'm willing to hear you out!

 

Praise the Ja

I'm suspicious of the seemingly random way Weasel is voting. sorry for the poor wording

[Mauve Crocodile]

1 minute ago, Mint Heron said:

I'm suspicious of the seemingly random way Weasel is voting. sorry for the poor wording

Right, carry on then.

I've been thinking about the Tuatara NK a bit more. Killing the village counter wagon isn't very intuitive, is it? You could get them exe'd later in the game no problem.

I'm now of the opinion that elims had taken Tuatara's Lurcher role claim at face value and hoped to snipe the PR out of the game ASAP. Lurcher is a pretty powerful role and can be extremely disruptive to the elims game plan. I'm assuming they gambled on Tuatara not self-targeting this night (bit of a miscalculation on their end, if this is what happened, because v!Tuatara should always be self-targeting there to protect themself from a v!coinshot or v!MB). This brings into question my village lean on Dragonfly, but doesn't change my v read on Tuatara...yet.

 

Praise the Ja

[Indigo Weasel]

40 minutes ago, Mauve Crocodile said:

I'm not voting Weasel. Did you mean Hyena?

If you think Hyena is a villager I'm willing to hear you out!

Hayden / Hyena is  bananas to keep track of

11 minutes ago, Mint Heron said:

I'm suspicious of the seemingly random way Weasel is voting. sorry for the poor wording

Nibbles can go back to voting you, if you'd rather! But there's plenty of time left in the day. 

Mouse explicitly saying they're unbothered by the suspicion thrown at them made Nibbles think they were in fact bothered by it. 

4 minutes ago, Mauve Crocodile said:

 This brings into question my village lean on Dragonfly, but doesn't change my v read on Tuatara...yet.

Your thinking being that Dragonfly, as someone who clearly took note of the Lurcher claim, is more likely to have shot at Tuatara over their role than say the oblivious Falcon? If that were the case, why would Dragonfly draw our attention to the roleclaim? 

Nibbles would lean towards v!Dragonfly in this scenario. 

[Mauve Crocodile]

5 minutes ago, Indigo Weasel said:

Your thinking being that Dragonfly, as someone who clearly took note of the Lurcher claim, is more likely to have shot at Tuatara over their role than say the oblivious Falcon? If that were the case, why would Dragonfly draw our attention to the roleclaim? 

Nibbles would lean towards v!Dragonfly in this scenario. 

Perhaps. I do acknowledge it's a rather bold play if true. I don't think this makes Dragonfly an elim per se, but it makes them less lock village to me.

 

Praise the Ja 

 

EDIT:

Actually, I take that back. It does make Dragonfly look bad. 

@Ivory Dragonfly if you saw and noted Tuatara's iron claim, why did you not try to dissipate their wagon? They could have died at EoD, it came down to a rand. I think this is suspicious. You didn't try to save them at all.

 

Praise the Ja

Edited January 15, 2025 by Mauve Crocodile