Taravangian/RoW

[Nahema]

Hello,

I have a question, maybe it has already been answered, but I couldn’t find it:

what happened to boon and curse when Taravangian became shardholder/Odium? Is he still sometimes clever, sometimes dumb, most times average? Will we see a really stupid Odium?

Thanks, K.

Edited August 20, 2024 by Nahema

[Treamayne]

3 hours ago, Nahema said:

Hello,

I have a question, maybe it has already been answered, but I couldn’t find it:

what happened to boon and curse when Taravangian became shardholder/Odium? Is he still sometimes clever, sometimes dumb, most times average? Will we see a really stupid Odium?

Thanks, K.

The only answer so far is RAFO:

Spoiler

Edwin Tyson

Does the Nightwatcher's boon and curse still affect Taravangian, now that he is Odium?

Brandon Sanderson

RAFO. Good question.

YouTube Spoiler Stream 1 (Dec. 17, 2020)

We will, hopefully, get this answered in SA5.

[alder24]

12 hours ago, Nahema said:

Hello,

I have a question, maybe it has already been answered, but I couldn’t find it:

what happened to boon and curse when Taravangian became shardholder/Odium? Is he still sometimes clever, sometimes dumb, most times average? Will we see a really stupid Odium?

Thanks, K.

Judging from Dalinar's boon and curse, which reversed itself by Cultivation's design, I suspect Taravangain's boon and curse also ceased to work, because it did what it was supposed to do - predict the future and give Taravangian the most passionate day of his life so he would be suitable for Ascension to Odium.

[Nahema]

Thank you.

I really love the preview chapters of WaT, but also hate that I have to wait for binge reading the whole book 

[JohnnyKaizen he/him]

I hadn't considered this, and now I really really want Todium to still be under this effect. I am almost positive he won't be, but woweee do I want it.

[Nahema]

I want it, too 

[The Sovereign]

22 hours ago, Nahema said:

Will we see a really stupid Odium?

Something to consider; Mr.T's Boon/Curse affects more than his intelligence, it also makes him inversely passionate and logical. Assuming this is intact as Odium, I would guess that on his passionate days the Power would be in greater control and on his logical days The Vessel would be in greater control. This would have the further implication of limiting or unchaining his ability to act as Odium. While highly Passionate he will be more in line with the Intent of Odium and likely would be able to act freely. When he is logical he would be working against his Intent which could cause him to have trouble acting.

[JustQuestin2004 he/him]

13 hours ago, alder24 said:

Judging from Dalinar's boon and curse, which reversed itself by Cultivation's design, I suspect Taravangain's boon and curse also ceased to work, because it did what it was supposed to do - predict the future and give Taravangian the most passionate day of his life so he would be suitable for Ascension to Odium.

That is a really, really good point.

Counterpoint

Spoiler

Doombrigade (paraphrased)

If an individual has a mental sickness, such as multiple personalities, can that affect a Shard's intent if picked up by him or her?

Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)

Yes, that is possible.

Do you think his Boon and Curse could count as a mental sickness?

[alder24]

11 hours ago, JustQuestin2004 said:

That is a really, really good point.

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Doombrigade (paraphrased)

If an individual has a mental sickness, such as multiple personalities, can that affect a Shard's intent if picked up by him or her?

Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)

Yes, that is possible.

Do you think his Boon and Curse could count as a mental sickness?

No, it's fully magical. But if it were to stay, it would affect Taravangian and Odium, just like @The Sovereign proposed.