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That’s a good theory. She did accept oaths, and she was built up to that function, I think.

Not a direct answer to the thread, but I was thinking about Stormlight, too. I mean - it’s called the Stormlight Archive, it would be strange if Stormlight vanishes after half of the books. I guess there will be a little bit of Stormlight production in the next book(s?) until a new source is discovered or built. Plus: the shard Honor isn’t meant to be fused with Odium for good, it’s becoming its own master, learning, growing.

I wonder how it will work out without highstorm, I mean the whole ecosystem ist dependent on it. You have one spot with natural light, but no crem. And you have the rest of the land without light, without crem. Feeding the people is fine, but what about the animals and plants?

Well. I will start with the end. If anything happens to me, at least I know how TaW ends. Then I‘ll continue with the new chapters. And after a while I‘ll listen to the audiobook. Finally I‘ll start all over again, waiting for the next book.

@alder24 I see your point, but I find it very hard to explain my view, as English is not my native language. In TLM any of the characters could have died, all of their arcs were finished. By the logic of the story everything led to Wayne, but that was the decision of the author. The story would have worked with Wax or Marasi just as well (some tweaking of the „how“ of course). But sacrificing his life for his friends and his world gave Wayne the final closure. Maybe not exactly a punishment, but a balancing-out - taking a life, giving a life. And I think, Brandon could make any death work, he is the author, he is sculpting the story. But I can see that Szeth has to do some balancing out. Just as Dalinar has. Because yes, you can grow, you can become better, you can do better after you accepted your atrocities. And you can be forgiven and can forgive yourself. But nothing you do now can undo the past. A life is priceless. Adolin reminds us readers that Dalinar is not only the heroic bondsmith but alo the brutal warlord who massacred a whole city (and oopsie his wife). There will be some balancing out, too. But: that is just my personal feeling. Probably I‘m totally wrong, as often

True. But still I‘m not convinced. Murder is a bit more than a mistake. edit: that‘s a reply to LewsTherinTelescope

I think Szeth has to die. He has done horrible things, suffers by being tormented by his conscience, atones for it now in Shinovar, and is finally freed by death. Similar to Wayne and many Hollywood characters - the reformed baddy (or the unlucky protagonist who is forced to commit horrible crimes) who has to be punished in order to be truly absolved for his sins/deeds.

I think it will be taken by or given to a singer/listener. That would be the honourable thing to do.

I want it, too

Thank you. I really love the preview chapters of WaT, but also hate that I have to wait for binge reading the whole book

Hello, I have a question, maybe it has already been answered, but I couldn’t find it: what happened to boon and curse when Taravangian became shardholder/Odium? Is he still sometimes clever, sometimes dumb, most times average? Will we see a really stupid Odium? Thanks, K.

I just finished the book, after about the half I just didn’t want to read further. A lot of the book didn’t work for me. But what buggers me the most ist Thaidakar. Most of what buggered me has already been listed, just one more unpopular opinion: the Fourth Bridge is a dumb tool to forcibly further the plot (yes, I know, Navani had those platforms but still) and evacuating Hearthstone as the first and only time to employ it, is stupid.

I‘m glad they call her „Stump“ as Arshqqam doesn’t sound fitting in German. *giggles*

I have a question concerning the Shin. It is always pointed out how different they are - in looks and in culture. In this chapter too. Yet, if I understood correctly, Shinovar was the land that was given to the human refugees from Ashyn. But the humans got greedy and took over the whole planet. So, how did it happen that you have two different human peoples? I‘m very curious for book 5 (and 4,6,7,8,9, and 10 of course ).

I re-read the passage - you are right, it doesn`t sound like Odium at all. And Truthwatchers do have Illumination. Still I'm puzzled that Renarin would use that in this way on purpose (or it it was a first time, he doesn`t seem to be aware of doing anything). I need the whole book really badly!

I'm sorry, English ist not my native tongue, but why do you think Renarin made an illusion? To me it was clearly Odium trying to get Kaladin, and only when he (it?) vanished, Renarin came through to Kal.

I don’t know what to think about Leshwi - is it a sign of honor that she lets Kaladin go to the civilians or did she position him there so it will be him going to Moash, not just any other Windrunner?

I'm sorry, if this has already been mentioned, but I'm in my reread, right at the beginning. Dalinar relives a vision, at the end he sees a brilliant light and a figure with nine shadows. The Stormfather says: "Nine shadows? The Unmade. His minions, ancient spren". Dalinar assumes, the figure is the Champion. That might be a red herring though. But if it is the Champion - could that mean the champion has to bind all nine unmade? It says on the back of WoR "(Surgebindings) they can brace a broken soul, but they can also widen its fissures" - widen it enough for more spren?

I am wondering what Marsh means in AoL "he does my brother's work, and that is something I feel inclined to encourage." while giving Marasi the book about Hemalurgy. a. he doesn't know Kel is still around and speaks about justice/fighting against the Set (not very likely after M:SH) b. Wax is unknowingly working towards Kel's doings (whatever they are, maybe fighting the Set on the Cognitive Realm or with a new body in the real world) But still, it is not "our work" and "feel inclined to encourage" is not like "I will help with all my power", so Marsh is doing something else - what could that be?

Ah, okay. So it is "he doesn't know how to splinter one of the other Shards" and not "he doesn't know how to splinter one more". Thank you.

English is not my native tongue, so I'm not quite sure I got that right: Khriss says "Ati doesn't know how to Splinter another Shard? Or he hasn't the strength?". To me it sounds as if Ati has splintered a Shard before. Has Ruin been to another planet then?

Well, I a m dissappointed. Of the whole afterlife arc. Kelsier is a wonderful character and I love him. Usually, when authors let (main) characters die, I am furious because in most cases it is just a cheap trick. Kelsier's death made sense, it was a perfect conclusion. And even though I was devastated, I still felt it was right. When he returned in HoA and later, I felt/feel betrayed. Secret history is a wonderful book and a wonderful Kelsier. But it a wrong book for me, as for me it belittles his arc in LE. And that makes me sad.

I thought about the Conventical of Seran - no windows, bunkerlike

I'm not convinced. Dalinar is almost obsessed with his brother('s death). He changed his whole life, lives according to the principles of tWoK, fights this war, doesn't take the throne etc. The last message from his dying brother was "find the words", and when he found them, he wouldn't think about his brother? That he succeeded, that he did find the words (and spoke them)? edit: I don't think, Gavilar was a Radiant. He had a super-duper life. He wasn't broken.

First post + no native speaker = please be easy on me. I wondered since I finished WoR about the most important words. The Oaths? So, can anyone who just speaks the ideals/oaths become a radiant? (And some orders don't require special wording). I don't think so. Gavilar couldn't know, Dalinar was/going to become a KR. Or is it important that the oaths are spoken by everyone, as a means of protection against the desolation? Is it "man" as opposed to "woman", or meaning (human) being?