Philosopher's Academy

[Channelknight Fadran]

yes hi here it is

 

First discussion: the ocean is full of meat and vegetables and is therefore a soup, thus the Earth is a bowl.

[Mat he/him]

You lost me at “and therefore is a soup” tbh

Soups have more than just vegetables and meat (which is a stew anyway :eyes:). They have to be a soup in spirit. It’s why cereal isn’t a soup either.

[Channelknight Fadran]

2 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

You lost me at “and therefore is a soup” tbh

Soups have more than just vegetables and meat (which is a stew anyway :eyes:). They have to be a soup in spirit. It’s why cereal isn’t a soup either.

WRONG

Rule #1 of Philosophy: You are not trying to defend your opinion with opinions. You are trying to defend your perception of the truth by distinguishing logical fallacies in the opposition, and support your own by providing a clear and concise thesis.

[Aeoryi she/her]

Rule 2: 

24 minutes ago, Channelknight Fadran said:

WRONG

Rule #1 of Philosophy: You are not trying to defend your opinion with opinions. You are trying to defend your perception of the truth by distinguishing logical fallacies in the opposition, and support your own by providing a clear and concise thesis.

Nothing is ever right nor wrong. Everything is considerable. 

Of course, we consider some opinions more than others.

[Channelknight Fadran]

Rule #2 for Real This Time: I'm the professor here, and I make the rules

[Aeoryi she/her]

42 minutes ago, Channelknight Fadran said:

Rule #2 for Real This Time: I'm the professor here, and I make the rules

 Rule #3: No one likes the bossy and annoying people who tell everyone that they are wrong.

Btw soup == ocean.

[The Bookwyrm he/him]

Well, I was thinking once, and realized that if you poured too much salad dressing on a salad, it would become soup.

Therefore all (chunky?) soups are salads, therefore, based on previous logic, the ocean is a salad.

Also seawater is magma.

Spoiler

Because ice is technically a mineral, and rocks are minerals mixed together, and melted rock magma, and seawater is melted ice mixed with other minerals.

 

[Kasimir he/him]

6 hours ago, Channelknight Fadran said:

Rule #1 of Philosophy: You are not trying to defend your opinion with opinions. You are trying to defend your perception of the truth by distinguishing logical fallacies in the opposition, and support your own by providing a clear and concise thesis.

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[Quantus he/him]

11 hours ago, Channelknight Fadran said:

First discussion: the ocean is full of meat and vegetables and is therefore a soup, thus the Earth is a bowl.

1. The ocean is full of Meat and Vegi's (also water and salt) and is therefore a Soup.  
   1. Agreed. Specifically it is a Bullion by the French classifications of soup, since it is a clear, unthickened soup.  
2. Thus the Earth is a Bowl
   1. Only in a non-Euclidean Geocentric frame.  Bowls are Containers, but the Ocean is one of the the outer layers that wraps around the Earth, not contained "In" it.  Since the gaseous atmosphere is more appropriately the outerwear of the Planet, the Ocean is Earth's wet underwear. Or runny pastry glaze, if we are sticking to food metaphors.  
   2. In a Geocentric where coordinate system Up = Outward and Down = Centerward, then the continents are the Bowl walls that "contain" the soup. But since continents are cover less surface than the oceans and never actually surround any of the oceans, they still dont qualify as a "bowl" container.  They are sponges that are mopping up the soup.  

 

 

[Channelknight Fadran]

...sigh

[Quantus he/him]

1 hour ago, Channelknight Fadran said:

...sigh

Come on, I followed Rule #1 and everything!

I posit that the Ocean is a Soup with continental croutons but no container.   

 

 

 

[Aeoryi she/her]

2 hours ago, Channelknight Fadran said:

...sigh

Rule 4: pretend to act interested in philosophy.

3 hours ago, Quantus said:

1. The ocean is full of Meat and Vegi's (also water and salt) and is therefore a Soup.  
   1. Agreed. Specifically it is a Bullion by the French classifications of soup, since it is a clear, unthickened soup.  
2. Thus the Earth is a Bowl
   1. Only in a non-Euclidean Geocentric frame.  Bowls are Containers, but the Ocean is one of the the outer layers that wraps around the Earth, not contained "In" it.  Since the gaseous atmosphere is more appropriately the outerwear of the Planet, the Ocean is Earth's wet underwear. Or runny pastry glaze, if we are sticking to food metaphors.  
   2. In a Geocentric where coordinate system Up = Outward and Down = Centerward, then the continents are the Bowl walls that "contain" the soup. But since continents are cover less surface than the oceans and never actually surround any of the oceans, they still dont qualify as a "bowl" container.  They are sponges that are mopping up the soup.  

 

 

I will tell you this: The ocean is Euclidian since it is defined in our world. The ocean is slightly bowlish shaped, but as a container, it would not qualify for a bowl. The actual shape of the ocean is basically a large sphere, and when you perform a basic experiment on whether spheres can hold water, they cannot. As we do not use spheres for the purpose of bowls, one cannot call the ocean a bowl.

[Quantus he/him]

 

14 minutes ago, Aeoliae said:

Rule 4: pretend to act interested in philosophy.

I will tell you this: The ocean is Euclidian since it is defined in our world. The ocean is slightly bowlish shaped, but as a container, it would not qualify for a bowl. The actual shape of the ocean is basically a large sphere, and when you perform a basic experiment on whether spheres can hold water, they cannot. As we do not use spheres for the purpose of bowls, one cannot call the ocean a bowl.

Euclidian Geometry is defined by its infinite parallel grid coordinate system, compared to a Geocentric spherical one where Down is toward the center of the sphere. 

But beyond that sematic, I agree. The Ocean (which is Soup, I think we all agree) is not contained by the Earth, it contains the Earth and is contained by the Sky.  That's a whole other primordial entity...  

[Aeoryi she/her]

36 minutes ago, Quantus said:

 

Euclidian Geometry is defined by its infinite parallel grid coordinate system, compared to a Geocentric spherical one where Down is toward the center of the sphere. 

But beyond that sematic, I agree. The Ocean (which is Soup, I think we all agree) is not contained by the Earth, it contains the Earth and is contained by the Sky.  That's a whole other primordial entity...  

The ocean is Euclidian however. It can be defined in a 3d space.

It is actually contained by gravity

[Quantus he/him]

4 minutes ago, Aeoliae said:

The ocean is Euclidian however. It can be defined in a 3d space.

It is actually contained by gravity

It can be defined within Euclidean space, sure.  My point was that within a non-Euclidean, spherical coordinate system, the ocean could arguably be considered "Contained" within a hypothetical bowl of landmass and seabed, but only because terms like Up and Down and Inside and Outside all get different, more local definitions relative to the spherical center.  By the terms as defined within a normal Euclidean framework, the ocean is entirely outside the Earth and not contained by it Bowl Style in any way I can see.  

[Aeoryi she/her]

In theory the gravity holds the water like a bowl holds soup

[Channelknight Fadran]

I started with the wrong argument, so I shall now change the topic so as to more successfully induct you all into the basis of philosophy:

 

What makes a good knife?

[Aeoryi she/her]

An effective one. It must be sharp, not dull. Dull people use dull knives.

A good knife is also reliable and is long lasting.

A good knife can end any disagreement.

[Channelknight Fadran]

On the contrary, what makes a bad knife?

[Aeoryi she/her]

22 minutes ago, Channelknight Fadran said:

On the contrary, what makes a bad knife?

Cannot end any agreement 

[Channelknight Fadran]

so one of the primary aspects of a knife is that it can murderify people?

[Aeoryi she/her]

It can chop it can cut it can do all that

[Eluvianii he/him]

Butter knives are good knives too.

[Channelknight Fadran]

Do you think there's a fundamental difference between regular knives, butter knives, and paint knives?

[Aeoryi she/her]

They all get the job don