|TJ| he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 @Kasimir, is there any way an action can fail without the person being roleblocked? @DrakeMarshall, yo what happened to your vig kill? @Amanuensis, yeah we can target the same person in consecutive cycles but if you trolled in both cycles, then you lost the coin toss both the times. troll and roleblock on same ooa. who is ups??? also what exactly did silho claim? currently slightly more sus on silho than archer.
Shining Silhouette he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 Just now, |TJ| said: who is ups??? Actually good question I don't know :P. 1 minute ago, |TJ| said: also what exactly did silho claim? currently slightly more sus on silho than archer. I claimed Discussion Leader which is vote manip
Fifth Scholar he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 Just now, |TJ| said: @Kasimir, is there any way an action can fail without the person being roleblocked?
|TJ| he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 Just now, Shining Silhouette said: I claimed Discussion Leader which is vote manip what exact type of vote manip? and any night role?
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 Wait, no, my logic is completely wrong TJ being evil does not imply Archer being evil at all in this case TJ
Mat he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 1 minute ago, |TJ| said: who is ups??? also what exactly did silho claim? currently slightly more sus on silho than archer. UPS is the PM Spider who scanned me. I… forget what the U stands for xD ‘unnamed’ or something Shining claimed rioter. Which he ninja’d me with saying, but I get points for being specific :P.
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 Just now, DrakeMarshall said: Wait, no, my logic is completely wrong TJ being evil does not imply Archer being evil at all in this case TJ Doesn't it? Cause who roleblocked me N2 then N2 I used Troll on Book but N3 I used Goalkeeper on Biplet. Both 'failed.'
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: Drake, did you get RB'd/Trolled or just not kill things? 4 minutes ago, |TJ| said: @DrakeMarshall, yo what happened to your vig kill? Guys I'm a pacifist!!!
Shining Silhouette he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Shining claimed rioter. Which he ninja’d me with saying, but I get points for being specific :P. Oh yeah, and I forgot who asked but yeah I can apparently change the vote of people who aren't voting Which I could've been doing this whole time *facepalm*
Ashbringer he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 U is Unknown. Or United, potentially.
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Shining Silhouette said: Doesn't work cause three are in the 2 elim pool but it'd be crazy Actually nevermind. Fadran claimed the Confirmed Villager role that scans green no matter what. Elims could have one in the tie. Might even be Mat, since we know he's scanned green and hasn't claimed a role yet ED1T: @Shining Silhouette... including the dead??? Edited February 5, 2023 by Amanuensis
Shining Silhouette he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 Just now, Amanuensis said: Actually nevermind. Fadran claimed the Confirmed Villager role that scans green no matter what. Elims could have one in the tie. Might even be Mat, since we know he's scanned green and hasn't claimed a role yet Bolded added. What do you mean by this?
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 Just now, Shining Silhouette said: Bolded added. What do you mean by this? One of the "6 Villagers" can be an elim with a role that will always scan village
|TJ| he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Amanuensis said: Doesn't it? Cause who roleblocked me N2 then if the theory is that e!archer providing cover for e!me saying i targeted mat, that is not a smart move at all, because there was no reason to provide cover as i wasnt known to be a roleblocker at all. even after he said i targeted mat, i had no reason to claim rb if i was evil, as rb was being suspected. because there was confusion regarding the the whole assumption as i could have been the one to scan mat, i cleared up the confusion by claiming. i really did target shining and mat in the first two cycles. i could try to provide interference immunity to aman in n3 since you keep getting blocked.
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 Just now, |TJ| said: if the theory is that e!archer providing cover for e!me saying i targeted mat, that is not a smart move at all, because there was no reason to provide cover as i wasnt known to be a roleblocker at all. even after he said i targeted mat, i had no reason to claim rb if i was evil, as rb was being suspected. because there was confusion regarding the the whole assumption as i could have been the one to scan mat, i cleared up the confusion by claiming. i really did target shining and mat in the first two cycles. i could try to provide interference immunity to aman in n3 since you keep getting blocked. Who did you block last night?
Mat he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: Guys I'm a pacifist!!! Ok but like our PoE is super small so many you can help with that? xD Just now, Amanuensis said: Actually nevermind. Fadran claimed the Confirmed Villager role that scans green no matter what. Elims could have one in the tie. Might even be Mat, since we know he's scanned green and hasn't claimed a role yet Oh is that how that works? I thought it just meant scan as in formal scan. I guess that makes sense though. So you’re telling me that the whole tie info analysis we all did isn’t necessarily trustworthy either >> And fine smh I’ve dangled this enough, TC is Tunnel Constructor which is Randby’s second role, which they claimed awhile ago. Dunno if I’ll ever use it. Basically once per game I can pick a player before rollovet and force the thread to pick me or that person to exe for that turn
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: Doesn't it? Cause who roleblocked me N2 then N2 I used Troll on Book but N3 I used Goalkeeper on Biplet. Both 'failed.' If TJ is village, then the elims definitely have 2 roleblockers. If TJ is an elim, then either the elims have 2 roleblockers or Archer is an elim as well. I don't think elim!TJ necessarily requires elim!Archer though. From a role analysis perspective, 2 elim roleblockers really isn't that out there considering the number of village power roles. Therefore, after reflecting on it a bit, I do think TJ is probably a better vote than Archer.
Shining Silhouette he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 Just now, Amanuensis said: One of the "6 Villagers" can be an elim with a role that will always scan village Oh that makes sense. Yeah I could see <Archer, Matrim's Dice, TJ> 3 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: @Shining Silhouette... including the dead??? Following up on this
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 Just now, Matrim's Dice said: Ok but like our PoE is super small so many you can help with that? xD Oh is that how that works? I thought it just meant scan as in formal scan. I guess that makes sense though. So you’re telling me that the whole tie info analysis we all did isn’t necessarily trustworthy either >> And fine smh I’ve dangled this enough, TC is Tunnel Constructor which is Randby’s second role, which they claimed awhile ago. Dunno if I’ll ever use it. Basically once per game I can pick a player before rollovet and force the thread to pick me or that person to exe for that turn Lmao of course that's how TC works. And that you got it
Ashbringer he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 Depends what is defined as a Scan for that role. 1 minute ago, |TJ| said: if the theory is that e!archer providing cover for e!me saying i targeted mat, that is not a smart move at all, because there was no reason to provide cover as i wasnt known to be a roleblocker at all. even after he said i targeted mat, i had no reason to claim rb if i was evil, as rb was being suspected. because there was confusion regarding the the whole assumption as i could have been the one to scan mat, i cleared up the confusion by claiming. i really did target shining and mat in the first two cycles. i could try to provide interference immunity to aman in n3 since you keep getting blocked. I mean there is one reason to claim - RandBy. 1 minute ago, Matrim's Dice said: And fine smh I’ve dangled this enough, TC is Tunnel Constructor which is Randby’s second role, which they claimed awhile ago. Dunno if I’ll ever use it. Basically once per game I can pick a player before rollovet and force the thread to pick me or that person to exe for that turn Ooooh I like that. And missed it entirely. I'll get that role thing up in a bit, busy rn
Shining Silhouette he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: And fine smh I’ve dangled this enough, TC is Tunnel Constructor which is Randby’s second role, which they claimed awhile ago. Dunno if I’ll ever use it. Basically once per game I can pick a player before rollovet and force the thread to pick me or that person to exe for that turn What do you mean 'force'? Like whoever has more votes gets exed between you and that person? Edit: 7 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: @Shining Silhouette... including the dead??? No, not including the dead Edited February 5, 2023 by Shining Silhouette
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 I know there is ostensibly a PM Spider scan already confirming Mat as village, but FWIW I village read Mat
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 @Matrim's Dice think it's worth constructing your tunnel on Ash today to test Thread Master?
Mat he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 Just now, Amanuensis said: Lmao of course that's how TC works. And that you got it Don’t even start on that looool Wanna know what the first thing I said to Kas was? ‘You gave me that on purpose didn’t you’ Just now, Shining Silhouette said: What do you mean 'force'? Like whoever has more votes gets exed between you and that person? I never asked, but I figure it essentially just makes there only be two valid vote targets for the cycle; me and the other person. So I guess, yes, that’s how that works. 1 minute ago, Amanuensis said: @Matrim's Dice think it's worth constructing your tunnel on Ash today to test Thread Master? I mean, I can (and it’d be appropriate since Ash has been my tunnel this game anyway ) but do I need to? Like, what’s the point of using the role if we can just agree to vote Ash. I guess the point would be proving my role. I just have this notion of ‘holding onto it until I need it’ since it’s single use but idk when that would be.
|TJ| he/him Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: Who did you block last night? smh 40 minutes ago, |TJ| said: my action failed -.- i attempted to roleblock archer. I assume the other roleblocker blocked me. kas said earlier in the game that when two actions in the same order of actions interact, it's down to a coin toss, so I assume i lost one. - 6 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: If TJ is village, then the elims definitely have 2 roleblockers. its also possible there is an evil rper who copied the evil rber or me and got an extra rb last night.
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