What Twinborn would you be?

[+Ookla the Leafy]

On 4/20/2022 at 8:16 PM, ShardlessVessel said:

Allomantic aluminum and Feruchemical nicrosil.

All so I could claim to have the most useless Twinborn combination possible.

can you imagine if you were born with this? I'd be so pissed....

[StanLemon]

To be fair, we don't know what Nicrosil Feruchemy actually does yet. Brandon has said it's not as limited as the medallions so there is most likely more to it. 

Personally, I think if someone mastered Aluminum Allomancy they would be able to make themselves immune to all sorts of hostile Investiture

[The Aspiring Archivist any pronouns]

Ugh, this is tough.

I kind of want to know what Compounding Copper would do. Extra memory? That doesn't make much sense, if the memory is already perfectly sharp. Maybe it could sharpen memories that deteriorate (which could explain Rashek's supposed perfect memory)? Would there be some extra affect to it? Copper is the only Feruchemical power that stores distinct pieces of information, rather than levels of some attribute. 

Not counting compounding, I think A- Bendalloy and F- Zinc would be an incredibly powerful tool, as you'd pretty much have an infinite capacity for thought if you were to slow down time and think faster. The only downside would be getting too hungry from tapping Zinc. A- Pewter and F- Gold is a pretty obvious choice for combat, as is Wayne's combination, A- Pewter F- Steel, and A- Steel F- Pewter. Actually, pretty much and combination involving Allomantic Pewte, Bendalloy, or Steel (or even iron or bendalloy, really; Allomancy has a lot of combat-centric abilities) and Feruchemical Pewter, Zinc, Gold, or Steel would be great.

I guess what I'm trying to say is when it comes to Allomancy and Feruchemy, anything (except Allomantic Aluminum/Duralumin) oculd be useful somehow and would just be really cool. Its hard to pick favorites for me. Heck, make me an Archivist and I'm happy.

Idk.

[Mistchemist16]

On 2/8/2022 at 2:45 PM, Frustration said:

A-Pewter F-bronze.

Sorry steel lovers but Pewter is just the best allomantic metal. Improved physical strength, advanced healing etc.

And while F-gold is good I struggle with sleeping, and healthcare is advanced enough F-gold isn't neccesary.

It’s up there, but steel is easily the most versatile metal. It’s good offense (shoot metal projectiles, enhance gunshots,), defense, (blocking metal), movement, (coin jumps, flight at high level). It even has a lot of underappricted sensory potential for those who can learn. Steel sight can tell you what metals an Allomancers has in their body and could potentially detect hidden people, among other things.
 

It also works great with F-Tin to enhance said steelsight (perhaps even enough to see the Spiritual Realm) or can be Compounded to take every other benefit up to 11 and run at the speed of sound. Pewter may be easier to understand, but steel is king for the serious Allomancer

Edited January 11, 2023 by Mistchemist16

[Windrunner_Jedi]

A: steel and F: iron

steel so i can fly around and push metals away from me

iron so i can make myself lighter or heavier and be whatever weight i want

[the masked carly]

A-pewter F-iron. By decreasing your weight, u could be extremely agile, a lot more so than even vin. And by increasing weight last second, you could hit harder than almost anyone. You could be a combat god!

[+Lewis Nethur He/Him]

A-bendalloy to speed up time

And....(wait for it!)

F-Chromium to store fortune inside a protective bubble!

Storing fortune seems crazy dangerous in general. Buuuut...if one is inside a bubble that basically severs them from reality and accelerates them to 100x speed while storing 99% (call it 100% to make the math easier to follow) of their spiritual Fortune...then one could store 100 continuous minutes of 200% fortune in only 1 minute of actual time passing outside their protective shell.

Wanna tap more than 200%? Well you maniac, that equates to (only roughly approximately) 20 minutes of 1000% fortune per day with only needing to burn bendalloy for 1 minute per day. That's literally insane.

Wanna be more conservative and keep a low profile? (Hyper-Extreme super luck is probably bound to upset the authorities if you use it daily after all...) well...burn bendalloy and store fortune aggressively for 1 minute when you first wake up, then tap fortune for the next 8 hours at 1.25x strength. Congratulations, everything you do or say every day is now mystically weighted heavily in your favor, but (probably? Idk...) not heavily enough to trigger major red flags.

Bear in mind, this would absolutely ruin your daily sleep schedule, and shorten your life. Still pretty neat though.

[Tamriel Wolfsbaine]

On 5/27/2024 at 7:32 PM, the masked carly said:

A-pewter F-iron. By decreasing your weight, u could be extremely agile, a lot more so than even vin. And by increasing weight last second, you could hit harder than almost anyone. You could be a combat god!

My personal favorite combo here. 

On 5/28/2024 at 3:56 PM, hwiles said:

A-bendalloy to speed up time

And....(wait for it!)

F-Chromium to store fortune inside a protective bubble!

Storing fortune seems crazy dangerous in general. Buuuut...if one is inside a bubble that basically severs them from reality and accelerates them to 100x speed while storing 99% (call it 100% to make the math easier to follow) of their spiritual Fortune...then one could store 100 continuous minutes of 200% fortune in only 1 minute of actual time passing outside their protective shell.

Wanna tap more than 200%? Well you maniac, that equates to (only roughly approximately) 20 minutes of 1000% fortune per day with only needing to burn bendalloy for 1 minute per day. That's literally insane.

Wanna be more conservative and keep a low profile? (Hyper-Extreme super luck is probably bound to upset the authorities if you use it daily after all...) well...burn bendalloy and store fortune aggressively for 1 minute when you first wake up, then tap fortune for the next 8 hours at 1.25x strength. Congratulations, everything you do or say every day is now mystically weighted heavily in your favor, but (probably? Idk...) not heavily enough to trigger major red flags.

Bear in mind, this would absolutely ruin your daily sleep schedule, and shorten your life. Still pretty neat though.

I really like this one. However I think it also depends on how chromium fortune works. My favorite theory is in gut instinct. Everything you feel to be true turns out to your favor when tapping while everything your spirit feels to be true works against you while storing. This combo could be wicked helpful if you can work past those feelings that are taunting you to drop the bubble and make the worst step of your life. Also super expensive. Bendalloy isn't cheap. While a minute or two inside is the same as a couple hours outside you are still blowing through an incredible amount of money to make it happen. Likely much safer.  Get a primer cube and a buddy. Have your buddy chain you up and then activate the primer cube on your position.  You can store for days while begging for him to let you out in some ultra bad fortune trip while he waits a couple.minutes until.the cube is done draining. No chance for you to stop the bendalloy burn on a badly miscalculated fortune dump either. 

 

Another fun one would be A-tin and F-steel. Being able to bullet time plus have some savant like senses would be fun. 

Edited May 29, 2024 by Tamriel Wolfsbaine
A new combo

[Shadow of Electrum he/him]

I think there was another thread that asked this question but I'll just say it again because speculation is fun.

I would choose double zinc for compounding because I fail to see a situation where infinite mental speed isn't useful. Imagine you enter a battlefield and you see your opponents before you. You use up so much mental speed that time essentially stops from your perspective, and you come up with the perfect counter strategy to fight them(even if that strategy is just to run...). It's useful in everyday life, anytime you feel unsure, you tap mental speed and now you have all the time in the world to make a decision. You get a universal pause button, and if you've ever played a strategy game of any kind you know how powerful this is. And this is ignoring the utility of a-zinc. I don't particularly like the idea of being manipulative, but even as a power I don't really want it's still immensely useful to control someone's emotions. There might be more creative combinations of twin born powers, but infinite mental speed is just too tempting for me to say no.

(I realize this "pause button" idea is similar to a-bendalloy as is used in era 2 but I don't think I need to particularly stress the usefulness of infinite mental speed)

Edited June 20, 2024 by Shadow of Electrum
Late realization

[Entr0pic He/him]

This, for me, depends on what Era of the cosmere we’re talking abt 

assuming your talking about era 2 mistborn, I’d have to say F-chromium and A-cadmium 

While not useful in combat, A-cadmium would just be fun to use for me. Tired of class or work? Just put up a cadmium bubble. Can’t go to sleep for whatever reason, but don’t want to stay up all night? Put up a cadmium bubble. Also, i just want to experiment with it. Also, if i can get one of those alomantic grenades Marisi was using, that’d be fun to play with.

for F-chromium, I’d just go storing like 10% of my luck for a year, then tap my chromium, get a scratch ticket, and boom, instant millionaire. (Idrk if era 2 scadrail has scratch tickets, but still)

as for a space age cosmere, I’d still take f-chromium, however, I’d take A-aluminum instead. 

Think about it. I could go to basically go to the most dangerous planets with safety with enough aluminum. I could go to thenody and study the shades, and instantly negate the withering. Same thing on Komashi with the nightmares, and i would love to experiment with how A-aluminum interacts with the surges on roshar.

[The Splinter of Ambition He/Him]

Double electrum looks interesting in combat as seeing what could happen to me in a fight would be useful with allomancy and compounding. Then I'd just tap feruchemical electrum to ignore/push through anything that could happen to me if I got overloaded with the information of my future through compounding. Imagine being like the clone troopers throughout the clone wars shows tanking several hits, BUT also having what effectively could be interpreted as Jedi foresight. 

EDIT: for just being a normal person and not some main character in a mistborn era I'd go allomancy brass, feruchemy tin.

Edited March 6, 2025 by The Splinter of Ambition

[+robardin he/him]

I assume we're limited to IRL metals here; no going for double atium Compounding and eternal youth, due to the problem of accessing a fictional element, LOL.

All these people considering combat use, how often are you or do you anticipate being in a combat situation? And if you're imagining becoming some kind of Superhero... Feels like you're setting yourself up to be a high profile pawn of the powers that be. No thank you!

I feel like the most useful IRL Feruchemical attributes would be F-gold and F-zinc, especially if Compounded for nigh unlimited reservoirs, and the latter means the Allomantic power is also pretty useful IRL if you're subtle with it (plus, zinc is much easier and cheaper to obtain for Compounding than gold).

If I were willing to forgo being a Compounder, I'd go with A-pewter (strength, agility, stamina, healing factor) and F-gold or F-zinc. F-gold seems the most practical, for obvious reasons (as someone who's been hit by a car on a bike twice in my life), but man, I'd love to feel what it's like to tap a zincmind, it'd be like "me on my smartest day" but at will.

[Lopens Tenth Cousin he/him]

Personally, for combat I would have A-Pewter and F-Iron, due to the fact that I would be able to jump through the skies like a coinshot, but not leave any metal behind. Additionally, I would be able to use increased weight along with A-Pewter to deliver crushing blows to my enemies.

For everyday life, I would have A-Tin and F-Brass, because both are relatively inexpensive metals and I would like to be able to perceive things better, and storing heat would be really good in the summer and tapping heat would be great for the winter (or, y'know... when the guy gives the girl the suit jacket or something and suffers being cold so she doesn't have to if y'know what I mean)

[Lord Ruler Sylphrena He/Him]

Most Allomantic powers are combat related which I truly have no use for. If I'm going with compounding I want Zinc. It's one of the cheaper metals and I'll become pretty much the greatest genius in human history.

If we are being more balanced and not using compounding it would have to be A-Zinc and F-Duralumin. Being able to control people and get them to trust me will be helpful for every single interaction in life. Struggling to make new friends or find a partner? Just tap a truckload of connection and riot trust and friendliness, its that easy. Getting promotions from your boss, avoiding fights, and forging new relationships all becomes a cakewalk. Also imagine all the people you could save with these powers. If you were a politician, hostage negotiator, or therapist you could save countless lives. Conflict de-escalation is such a critical skill that not many people have and this combo makes you a master at it.

Imagine if Kaladin had this power. His therapy would become the stuff of legends. Flying or being strong sounds cool but after 10 years I would find that just a normal part of my life. Unless you plan on being a soldier you got to think of powers that are practical which I think this combo is. 

My second twinborn combo I like is much simpler. A-Zinc and F-Chromium. I would become the god of poker/gambling and no-one could stop me! However it's a bit unclear as to whether Chromium stores luck or fate and I'm also not wanting to get a heart attack or some other BS while I'm storing luck.

Edited March 14, 2025 by Lord Ruler Sylphrena

[+robardin he/him]

2 hours ago, Lord Ruler Sylphrena said:

...A-Zinc and F-Chromium. I would become the god of poker/gambling and no-one could stop me! However it's a bit unclear as to whether Chromium stores luck or fate and I'm also not wanting to get a heart attack or some other BS while I'm storing luck.

Well, technically a chromiummind stores the attribute of Fortune and not "luck" -- the mechanism behind which Wit (Hoid) describes to Dalinar that "doesn't always work as well as I'd like it to" when it prompts him to leave (Roshar) in order to "be where he has to be", even though he doesn't know why.

In that sense, it's not clear what "natural reserves" of Fortune one would normally have, and thus would be lowering when filling a metalmind. I think it'd be less "you got hit by a freak accident" which is more "active bad luck" than an abnormal lack of good luck, if you follow what I mean?

Unless you think that all people walk around under a cloud of impending random disaster but for a veneer of innate good luck that we'd better not strip away, LOL.

I'm thinking the worst that could happen (which is still "unfortunate") would be if one were in the wrong environment while filling a chromiummind, one with a lot of potential misfortunes that could compound if linked together, like in a kitchen.

 

[DoctaDajman]

1 hour ago, robardin said:

Well, technically a chromiummind stores the attribute of Fortune and not "luck" -- the mechanism behind which Wit (Hoid) describes to Dalinar that "doesn't always work as well as I'd like it to" when it prompts him to leave (Roshar) in order to "be where he has to be", even though he doesn't know why.

In that sense, it's not clear what "natural reserves" of Fortune one would normally have, and thus would be lowering when filling a metalmind. I think it'd be less "you got hit by a freak accident" which is more "active bad luck" than an abnormal lack of good luck, if you follow what I mean?

Unless you think that all people walk around under a cloud of impending random disaster but for a veneer of innate good luck that we'd better not strip away, LOL.

I'm thinking the worst that could happen (which is still "unfortunate") would be if one were in the wrong environment while filling a chromiummind, one with a lot of potential misfortunes that could compound if linked together, like in a kitchen.

 

I always thought of fortune as the gut feelings you have. When you store it they are more likely to not be beneficial where when you tap it they are more likely to be beneficial. 

Its those feelings that you are so sure of in that moment. They talk about your first instinct and answer often times being the right one, well I assume with fortune it works similarly. When you store it that gut feeling simply doesn't point you in the right direction where as when tapping it aligns better for your benefit. 

Wayne has a high amount of baseline fortune and it seems like his gut reactions just happen to be correct most of the the time. 

Although this makes storing it seem a lot less dangerous as you will probably just feel hopelessly lost when trying to make a decision knowing that what you really feel to be the correct  decision is unlikely to be beneficial to yourself... don't overthink anything while storing because it will just lead you to be convinced of the wrong move more.and more. 

[The Being Who Verbs Hat/Hat]

double chromium. the best combo.

[HiGuysGames]

I feel like Allomantic Chromium + Feruchemical Pewter is an underrated combination.

Use Feruchemically enhanced muscles to restrain people while sapping their metal reserves seems like something that could be very useful, especially if you're apart of a team. (Also the powers are just quite cool I think.)

(A-Tin would be a close second for me in terms of Allomantic ability)

[Born of Mist He/Him]

I would go steel compounder, and be the flash.

[TacoBellChoutaMeal]

A-Cadmium/F-Steel would be crazy. Master of both speeds. 
A-Pewter/F-Tin would be crazy. Being able to store pain in your metal mind while burning pewter would make you so dangerous. And being able to throw something heavy with pewter enhanced muscles and dexterity with F-tin eyesight would make you so dangerous. 
A-Electrum/F-Chromium has to be useful. No way those abilities don’t stack. 
A-Pewter/F-Cadmium might be useful. But it would also be a genuinely horrible experience trying to store breath. 
A-Zinc/F-Duralumin probably works well together in some form or capacity. 

[ruler of the mists He/His/the survivor of the pit]

Double Steel, for Compounding, being incredibly fast and and using the Alomanttic steel to course correct.

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

Steel Compounder, easily. Most of my life is martial arts, so this would be incredibly useful for mobility, which is most of my style. Plus, I just like moving quickly.

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

ok wait I have a question so I just finished book one of mistborn era two and I was wondering if you could burn atium and had a atium ferchemical ability would that enhance their atium burning skills like how if you burn gold and have a gold ferchemical ability your ability to store health gets better?

if that doesn’t work then I would say burn bendalloy and have the ferchemical ability of chromium that way if I was in my speed bubble I could shoot out of it and bc of my ferchemical luck I would hit something

Edited August 7, 2025 by Honors ghost

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

1 minute ago, Honors ghost said:

ok wait I have a question so I just finished book one of mistborn era two and I was wondering if you could burn atium and had a atium ferchemical ability would that enhance their atium burning skills like how if you burn gold and have a gold ferchemical ability your ability to store health gets better?

No. It would grant an exponential return in the attribute stored in the atoum upon burning an atiummind, but I don't remember what that is. Compounding doesn't affect Allomantic ability so far as I know

[Nitpicking]

On 8/7/2025 at 8:05 AM, Kansas Stormcursed said:

No. It would grant an exponential return in the attribute stored in the atoum upon burning an atiummind, but I don't remember what that is. Compounding doesn't affect Allomantic ability so far as I know

Feruchemical atium stores youth. That's how the Lord Ruler and Marsh live so long. They compound atium.

Edited August 12, 2025 by Nitpicking