Quick-Fix 57 - The Infiltrators of Elantris

[Quivil]

15 hours ago, Ookla of Anarchy and Chaos said:

I'll be a pinch-hitter. If you specifically need more people, then I'll play (but will probably be a bit inactive until the end of the LG)

Correction: If you WANT more people, I'll play (but will still probably be a bit inactive until the end of the LG)

You can either tell me you want me to play or just dump me in.

Edited December 9, 2021 by Ookla of Anarchy and Chaos

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

Eight was my expected/hoped for amount, but I have distros for nine, so it's up to you. I'm going to leave you as a pinch-hitter unless you say otherwise. 

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

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[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

The Monks had reached the city after traveling for a time. During that time they had lost more of their numbers, but they were still strong. 

After just a few swings of their axes, the gatekeepers were mere corpses. The Dakhor Monks left the severed flesh and bloodied room behind. 

It would be many hours before the bodies were found. It would be even more before it was realized what had killed those bodies, but when it was, drastic measures would have to be taken.

 

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The leaders of Elantris, the first elantrians, had come to a decision. A team would be made to hunt down the Dakhor before they were given time to assimilate themselves into the ranks of the elantrians.

Unfortunately for the elantrians, the Monks had already made their way into those ranks. The hunting squad itself was compromised. Investigations were led, and the eight most likely Monks were placed under lockdown, where they were left to decide amongst themselves who were the Monks… and who would become corpses in their wake.

 

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Welcome to Cycle One: A Solitary Beginning. A few things to note:

• This cycle will end at 2 PM on Friday, the Tenth of December whether I close it or not.

   

• PMs are closed. 

   

• Ties will result in no-one dying.
• Have Fun!

 

Player List:

Spoiler

1. @Ookla the Pianist(Matrim's Dice) as Iad. They say you are reliable, but are you actually a scoundrel beneath the facade?

2. @ookla the quantificational (Dannex) as nobody. Who are you, strange traveler?

3. @Ookla the Petrichor(Ed Venture) as Kene. I've never met an honest salesman, are you the first?

4. @Ookla the Confused(Szeth Facepalm) as a nonexistent persom with a pentient for laziness. You laze about and do not, how can we trust you to do what you must when the time comes?

5. @Ookla the Procrastinator(Shard of Reading) as no-one. What is a memory that has been forgotten? Nothing? Or everything?

6. @MintSilverTea as Zephyr the Bard. Songs. The immortal embodiment of emotion. Love, heartbreak, anger, despair, and of course, joy.

7. @Ooklil' the Wei (Illwei) as nobody. What is more boring then nothing?

8. @Ookla the Paranormal (Archer) as Body. Why must you hate? Why must you oppose?

Link to Rules:

 

Edited December 9, 2021 by The Unknown Aon

[dannnex male]

1 minute ago, The Unknown Aon said:

(Dannex) as nobody

1 minute ago, The Unknown Aon said:

(Illwei) as nobody

THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE

*poke*  illwei

 

[Shard of Reading he/him]

1 minute ago, ookla the quantificational said:

THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE

*poke*  illwei

 

*quietly twiddles thumbs*

Any way, ummm... I think there are 2 elims because ya know you can’t have just one and 3 is too many. Ummm... yeah, I completely forgot what was supposed happen cycle 1 so yeah.... Banter!

[dannnex male]

Just now, Ookla the Procrastinator said:

*quietly twiddles thumbs*

nah, TUO put you as "no-one" not "nobody"

so we can be friends

illwei however

must die

 

I agree, prob 2 elims. I can maybe see there only being 1, but prob 2. 

[Shard of Reading he/him]

2 minutes ago, ookla the quantificational said:

nah, TUO put you as "no-one" not "nobody"

so we can be friends  

I mean it seems pretty close, but I’ll take it. I’d rather not make enemies. Cause ya know, I like being alive. 

[dannnex male]

Just now, Ookla the Procrastinator said:

Cause ya know, I like being alive

bro no way me too

we have so much in common

[Szeth Pancakes he/they]

AuanaunweikzmdiaknKmm8:@‘zb7 nun $!! $! $. JInkn はあら、サル、、、ありがとうございます。

[Mat he/him]

Not being the first one to post feels weird. It's nice though, good job.

Miscellaneous:

• Village streak continues, I won't tunnel this time. Probably.
• The elims being purple and not red is throwing me for a loop .-. especially since the Monks have red armor, no? At least Hrathen does. I guess he's not a monk but he is Fjorden or whatever.
• The elims' replication abilities are basically useless since the only ability that actually is useful for them to replicate is the one they aren't able to.
• @The Unknown Aon Szeth is Szeth_Pancakes, not Facepalm. And you should probably put that it's Cycle One in the thread title.

Role recommendations:

• Death: Don't. Ever. There's so few players that it's a bad idea, and it messes with the alignment scans. Just don't.
• Wisdom: Standard protect, so try to IKYK out who the elims are gonna attack. That kind of thing, have fun trying to figure it out :P.
• Justice: Go go go, please. Quickly. Only reveal if you have like multiple village ones, or an elim. But I wouldn't claim C2 with a village scan unless we're about to misexe them. Maybe not even then.
• Watchfulness: Also useful cause it can catch kills. 3/4 roles are super helpful for the village lol

Guess on Distro:

• Kinda just think there's one of each role on the village side, if even that. Death/Justice might be left out altogether. If a role has two, it's Wisdom.
• It doesn't matter if the elims have a role, because I doubt they have Death and the others are useless to them.
• Actually, they might have Death for the extra kill, and 2 elims. That seems balanced. Huh. I think there's no chance there's 1 and a small chance there's 3 if they're like all vanilla or something

Hot takes:

• Shard of Reading
• Danex is village (though I would laugh if this is e/e)
• Don't ask me about Szeth

Edited December 9, 2021 by Ookla the Pianist

[Archer he/him]

32 minutes ago, ookla the quantificational said:

nah, TUO put you as "no-one" not "nobody"

For RP purposes, I will be pretending I didn't see that. 

Body the elf (played by Will Ferrell) was in the midst of an existential crisis. “I can’t live in a world with no body,” he reasoned. “So that’s who I must kill! Yay, syrup and stuff.” Illwei

26 minutes ago, Ookla the Confused said:

AuanaunweikzmdiaknKmm8:@‘zb7 nun $!! $! $. JInkn はあら、サル、、、ありがとうございます。

*reports bot*

15 minutes ago, Ookla the Pianist said:

• Justice: Go go go, please. Quickly. Only reveal if you have like multiple village ones, or an elim. But I wouldn't claim C2 with a village scan unless we're about to misexe them. Maybe not even then.

I disagree. There's a bodyguard role to protect you, and even the threat of that should be enough to keep you safe. There's been games where the scanner has failed to reveal a village scan, and that hurt us. Knowing who not to waste the exe on is almost as good as knowing who to exe. But obviously don't roleclaim until tomorrow. :P. 

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@The Unknown Aon  GM, I’d like some clarification on how the Dakhor abilities work. Do they replicate the ability of the player they kill? The way I’m picturing it is Frank and Felix are evil. Frank submits the elim kill on an Elantrian of Watchfulness. After the kill goes through, you inform them of the ability their victim had and ask Frank if he’d like to take on that ability. He does, and can now action track until he changes out the ability. His teammate getting an ability has no effect on whether he still has his.

Is the role players villagers have revealed in the writeup when they die? And is the ability elims were mimicking revealed, or does it just show up as monk?

Can the Elantrian of Death kill twice in the same round?

If we start the game with less than every type of Elantrian, will we be informed?

And finally, just to confirm, even if there’s no post stating that a round is over, the round ends at the listed time and all votes cast after then will not be counted, ya?

[Illwei]

Mat your views are interesting since I definitely see things the opposite as Danex and Reading as more Village.

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

I'm really that that goes for all Dakhor. The elims can take an ability, then they kill the next night, then they can use the ability the next, then they can take another and so on. They cannot hoard abilities. 

Yes, roles are revealed as well as alignment.

No, no role can use its power twice in the same round.

Yes, you would be.

Yes.

[Mat he/him]

30 minutes ago, Ookla the Paranormal said:

I disagree. There's a bodyguard role to protect you, and even the threat of that should be enough to keep you safe.

…Right, forgot about the Bodyguard role. Even though I just had mentioned it. Cool.

I maintain there’s no reason to claim a green scan unless the green scan is in danger, though.

22 minutes ago, Ooklil' the Wei said:

Mat your views are interesting since I definitely see things the opposite as Danex and Reading as more Village.

Huh

[dannnex male]

1 hour ago, Ookla the Pianist said:

Village streak continues,

this feels weird to me but at the same time it also just feels like mat. Like, what's the point of claiming vil, literally all of us would, and kinda already are. like, by simply playing the game, you're implying that you're claiming vil. so it's weird, pinged me a little bit, but it also just feels like mat. 

1 hour ago, Ookla the Pianist said:

Death: Don't. Ever. There's so few players that it's a bad idea, and it messes with the alignment scans. Just don't.

only a sith deals in absolutes

but also like seriously, there are some scenarios where it'd make sense. Like a EoJ scan. Or a very incriminating EoW scan. So this also pings me just a little. 

In fact, those two mild pings add up to one medium ping, which is enough for a D1 vote. mat. 

56 minutes ago, Ooklil' the Wei said:

Mat your views are interesting since I definitely see things the opposite as Danex and Reading as more Village.

i be confused. not about the vote, i just literally do not understand this sentence. what be ye saying?

1 hour ago, Ookla the Paranormal said:

For RP purposes, I will be pretending I didn't see that. 

what rp purposes?

1 hour ago, Ookla the Paranormal said:

Body the elf (played by Will Ferrell) was in the midst of an existential crisis. “I can’t live in a world with no body,” he reasoned. “So that’s who I must kill! Yay, syrup and stuff.” Illwei

oh shoot this pings me bad too. like, I just barely poked illwei right before this. and you're already jumping on? sus. very sus. 

let it be known that I have a ghost vote on archer. meaning i am exactly equally sus of both archer and mat and would vote either one. 

[Shard of Reading he/him]

1 hour ago, Ookla the Pianist said:

(though I would laugh if this is e/e)

Dang you caught us!

58 minutes ago, Ookla the Paranormal said:

I disagree. There's a bodyguard role to protect you, and even the threat of that should be enough to keep you safe. There's been games where the scanner has failed to reveal a village scan, and that hurt us. Knowing who not to waste the exe on is almost as good as knowing who to exe. But obviously don't roleclaim until tomorrow. :P.

Scanner

Personally I would say that they shouldn't claim (Ya know with all my wonderful experince) I think that the elims might use this revolutionary new technique called lying, to try and get a misexe, so even if someone claimed I wouldn't (completely) trust them. (Because there is no way to verify that) and late game you have no way of know that your scans were accurate. Also, they really are being honest about who they scanned, what they got, ect. you have no way to coordinate guards, so they're dead within 2 rounds in all likely hood.

 

[Mat he/him]

31 minutes ago, ookla the quantificational said:

only a sith deals in absolutes

but also like seriously, there are some scenarios where it'd make sense. Like a EoJ scan. Or a very incriminating EoW scan. So this also pings me just a little. 

In fact, those two mild pings add up to one medium ping, which is enough for a D1 vote. mat. 

Hmm this has been episode two of Mat forgetting parts of the rules (or at least not considering everything)

Yeah, scans would make sense in that regard. But like I also think it’s obvious what I was referring to :P. Like, I’m sure you didn’t think that I wouldn’t want an evil scan to be shot down.

What were your two pings? I see one.

Edited December 10, 2021 by Ookla the Pianist

[Szeth Pancakes he/they]

1 hour ago, Ookla the Paranormal said:

*reports bot*

Please don’t

[Archer he/him]

2 hours ago, The Unknown Aon said:

I'm really that that goes for all Dakhor. The elims can take an ability, then they kill the next night, then they can use the ability the next, then they can take another and so on. They cannot hoard abilities. 

Yes, roles are revealed as well as alignment.

So here's what I'm picturing. Two elims, Dave and David. At the end of C1, they kill a scanner. So during D2 they can both take the scan action. Except they won't because one of them needs to submit the kill, which takes up their only action. Anyway, at the end of C2, they kill a healer. Now they have the heal ability instead to use at the end of the cycle. If that's wrong, kindly let me know. 

Okay so we will know what ability the elims have based on their victim's flip. We can work with that. 

1 hour ago, ookla the quantificational said:

what rp purposes?

My character, Body the Elf, is the arch nemesis of Illwei's Nobody. If TUA changes the name on me, I will protest :P.

1 hour ago, Ookla the Procrastinator said:

Personally I would say that they shouldn't claim (Ya know with all my wonderful experince) I think that the elims might use this revolutionary new technique called lying, to try and get a misexe, so even if someone claimed I wouldn't (completely) trust them. (Because there is no way to verify that) and late game you have no way of know that your scans were accurate. Also, they really are being honest about who they scanned, what they got, ect. you have no way to coordinate guards, so they're dead within 2 rounds in all likely hood.

If you're a scanner, it'd be advantageous for you to scan the same person again if you see them doing something. If I understand the rules correctly, the elims probably won't be able to do the same action/an action twice in a row. You'll also be watching for elims with healing protecting each other. 

Anyway, the built in anti-claim mechanic is if the elims collect a full set, abilities have a 50% chance of failure. Since we probably only have one alignment scanner and one shooter, it's unlikely that they'll achieve that, but it should be considered. Also, claiming narrows the field of power roles, which should be a bigger deterrent. 

59 minutes ago, Ookla the Pianist said:

Yeah, scans would make sense in that regard. But like I also think it’s obvious what I was referring to :P. Like, I’m sure you didn’t think that I wouldn’t want an evil scan to be shot down.

On that note, I doubt we have multiple kill roles, so if someone does scan an elim, it'll either be an elim who our coinshot will gladly shoot, or it will be the shooter themselves, who knows that they are village. So feel free to help your coinshot out, it's unlikely to lead to friendly fire. 

2 hours ago, Ooklil' the Wei said:

Mat your views are interesting since I definitely see things the opposite as Danex and Reading as more Village.

I too am confused by this! Which is convenient because since it's Illwei, I don't have to move my vote to sus this... claim that they're voting for the people they trust? :P. 

[Mat he/him]

6 minutes ago, Ookla the Paranormal said:

On that note, I doubt we have multiple kill roles, so if someone does scan an elim, it'll either be an elim who our coinshot will gladly shoot, or it will be the shooter themselves, who knows that they are village. So feel free to help your coinshot out, it's unlikely to lead to friendly fire.

Hah, fair enough.

[+Ed Venture]

G'morn all. It's a bright and erly day and oop looks like we've all been taken away for a murder investigation and what i guess there are killers in the group too and i, the humble and most honest seller of mildly used trinkets and the like, have been taken away. So...neat. I dont suppose anyone here wants to buy a genuine aonic medallion? ....maybe instead of threatening to lynch one another? 

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Vote count is sitting at:

Illwei (1): Archer
Reading (1): Mat
Dannex (1): Illwei
Mat (1): Dannex

With a lack of Vote Manipulation, things as they are leaves no lynch T1.....and I'm going to do a tinny poke at my good future friend @MintSilverTea Mint. No hard feelings.

Current gut reads wants me to say that Illwei and Reading are a team.

Everyone else is pretty cool

I agree with Mat that it is a bad idea to vigilante right now, at least wait and see for a seeker to be claimed.

[Mat he/him]

2 hours ago, Ookla the Petrichor said:

With a lack of Vote Manipulation, things as they are leaves no lynch T1.....and I'm going to do a tinny poke at my good future friend @MintSilverTea Mint. No hard feelings.

I’m gonna do my best to make sure a tie doesn’t happen, by the way. If the elims are the only ones doing the killing the game won’t go very well for us  I suppose we could scan and kill all of them but that’d not only by unlikely, it’s be a lame victory.

[Archer he/him]

2 hours ago, Ookla the Petrichor said:

 

With a lack of Vote Manipulation, things as they are leaves no lynch T1.....and I'm going to do a tinny poke at my good future friend @MintSilverTea Mint. No hard feelings.

Current gut reads wants me to say that Illwei and Reading are a team.

*names a pair of suspects*

*disparages the tie*

.... 

*makes it a bigger tie on someone unrelated*

What was the reason for the Illwei-Reading team? I had Reading down as a null. But by all means, feel free to vote for one of those two. :P. 

8 minutes ago, Ookla the Pianist said:

I’m gonna do my best to make sure a tie doesn’t happen, by the way. If the elims are the only ones doing the killing the game won’t go very well for us  I suppose we could scan and kill all of them but that’d not only by unlikely, it’s be a lame victory.

This doesn't sit right with me. I'd expect the elims to want a free kill C1 if they can get one. If e!Mat has a partner in the 5 way tie/wants to self pres, this could be laying the groundwork to bail them out later if they attract a second vote. Killing for its own sake is usually an evil tell, but especially in this game because of the alignment scanner. If this is the state of the votes near rollover, the elims can basically control the exe. So ideally we change that with some legitimate candidates, but barring that, I'd rather take the scan over the low probability that that scenario would result in an elim being killed. 

Mat (Illwei)  

[Mat he/him]

23 minutes ago, Ookla the Paranormal said:

This doesn't sit right with me. I'd expect the elims to want a free kill C1 if they can get one. If e!Mat has a partner in the 5 way tie/wants to self pres, this could be laying the groundwork to bail them out later if they attract a second vote. Killing for its own sake is usually an evil tell, but especially in this game because of the alignment scanner. If this is the state of the votes near rollover, the elims can basically control the exe. So ideally we change that with some legitimate candidates, but barring that, I'd rather take the scan over the low probability that that scenario would result in an elim being killed. 

Mat (Illwei)

So you’re saying that you’d rather have a tie than an exe this cycle? All I said was that I’d rather have an exe than a tie, so if you agree with that then why are you voting me?

And if you wouldn’t rather have an exe, than yay, we disagree. I’m not having the D1 exe discussion for the billionth time lol but this isn’t a reason to vote someone. I have this stance regardless of alignment and I always have.