GoddessIMHO Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 The Kholin'S have lost their city, their land and their taxes. They have a standing army. How can they support this war? Do all the other princedoms still get support from their lands? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordofsoup Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 They found a massive horde of gemstones beneath Urithiru, and they still control territory at the Shattered plains. Also their allies are interested in keeping them solvent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjl Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 I think the suggestion was that most of Alethkar is overrun, not just the Kholin lands; I think this will emerge more in the next book, they need to get farming going in Urithiru (or Stormseat). Either that or have Jasnah and Shallan work non-stop soulcasting food... @lordofsoup the impression I got was that the gemstones beneath Urithiru were all set into some kind of pillar and are part of the Urithiru fabrial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoser Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 joke Kill spren and sell the Shardblades? /Joke Currently reregistering with a new alias 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormingTexan Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Oathgate tariffs! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+robardin Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, StormingTexan said: Oathgate tariffs! Congratulations, you've just gone and introduced the phrase "destination fees" to Roshar. Which in this case, must come before the journey. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeldancer Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Tourism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoolofwhool Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) They can tax the merchants and people living in Urithru. 1 hour ago, StormingTexan said: Oathgate tariffs! Hmm... Quote “Though I was due for dinner in Veden City that night, I insisted upon visiting Kholinar to speak with Tivbet. The tariffs through Urithiru were growing quite unreasonable. By then, the so-called Radiants had already begun to show their true nature.” - Way of Kings, Chapter 46 Edited November 21, 2017 by Spoolofwhool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stromblessed Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 This is only a short term problem until they get Kholinar sorted out. They hold a princedom and the entire Kingdom . Elhokar was to weak to tax the other princes and enforce it properly. Jasnah won't put up with any of that nonsense of course. Dalinar holds Urithru and they will eventually start taxing passage through Oathgates. You could say they now have more sources of income than ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deddinty Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Given Taravangian's order from Odium, and the trapping of an unmade by Dalinar, I feel like the next book will end up with Urithiru becoming more activated, possibly allowing it to start really supporting the population. I also see Shinovar becoming a priority, especially now that Szeth is there, and that could help secure their food problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 They still go on gemheart hunts. The results are divided among the highprinces equally, and now that the Parshendi are gone, there's much less cost to getting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autopilot_off Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 If I remember correctly they collect fees as well for letting the other Highprinces use the crown's soulcasters as a form of tax. Between Jasnah, Dalinar, and Navani running things the Kholins will be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stromblessed Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, RShara said: They still go on gemheart hunts. The results are divided among the highprinces equally, and now that the Parshendi are gone, there's much less cost to getting them. Actually that is now becoming unfeasible as there are lesser number of Chasmfiends pupating each month and the gemheart hunting may be completely stopped as both Shallan -Jasnah and Dalinar are concerned about this. They may still go ahead with Shallan's idea of breeding their own Chasmfiends though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Stromblessed said: Actually that is now becoming unfeasible as there are lesser number of Chasmfiends pupating each month and the gemheart hunting may be completely stopped as both Shallan -Jasnah and Dalinar are concerned about this. They may still go ahead with Shallan's idea of breeding their own Chasmfiends though. There are fewer, but even one or two a month (as opposed to one or two a week) is enough to fund expenses for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solant Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 And if they get too hard up for cash, they can always sell tickets to Lightweaver plays. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth of Daybreak Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Dalinar's economic advisors: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoddessIMHO Posted November 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 I love the idea of Lightweaver plays. Thanks for the input on the other stuff. I was starting to think we had a fantasy billionaire somewhere in the back of the castle paying for all of this. They had been trading 2 for 1 on the existing gems just to get lighted gems. Of course, if Dalinar can now be used to relight duns that helps. The Kholins lost so much plus the palace itself likely had a large treasury that is now gone. I totally agree that Jashna is going to kick and take names.Long live the Queen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egomere Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Well they could rent out military expertise but I think the way things are going money is no longer going to matter as much as the Coalition starts pooling resources and Shards for Radients (now more and more are appearing) But yes Sebariel has plans for trade tariffs and similar for using Oathgates. They also have a flawless gem with an unmade trapped inside (that should be good for any number of collateral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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