Pagerunner

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    I've read a fair amount of Fantasy: Wheel of Time, Sword of Truth, 1/2 of A Song of Ice and Fire. These days, I don't have time for much more than Cosmere.

    I'm also big into Sci-Fi. I used to be crazy for the Star Wars EU, but recent events have hit me hard.
  1. A little late, but a very happy birthday to you!

  2. *looks around* who's not wishing this aranist happy bday? happy birthday guy who I've never really talked to on the shard.

  3. That's how they looked for the Oathbringer previews on Tor.com. The formatting doesn't get finalized until the end of the process.
  4. Hoo, boy, I work on transcribing the thing, and I miss a whole bunch of pages of discussion. (Transcription is here, by the way. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/495-prologue-to-stormlight-book-five/#e15580) I've got a few things back from my first post to expound on. First is the bit about Mishram that gets a little funky. Gavilar assumes that the "him" in "one who could rival him" is Thaidakar. But Mishram is the "other god." In contrast to whom? Not Thaidakar; the timelines don't work out, and also that's ridiculous. Odium? That's what seems to be implied by the Stormfather later. Or, perhaps, is it the Rider of Storms who betrayed the singers so long ago? And he's just lying to Gavilar again? And second are the peculiar bits about the Stormfather's presentation to Gavilar, unlike how it manifested to Dalinar, that make me think there's something else going on, that perhaps a piece of Tanavast is hiding inside the Stormfather and manifesting himself on occasion. Note how the Stormfather sometimes acts human (Tanavast), sometimes inhuman (real Stormfather). And the way it says "I have decided," which is a task that Honor set the Stormfather upon. And the eyeless infinity, reminding me of other times people have come face-to-face with actual, full Shards. Oh, and the connection to the Oathpact. It was between Honor and the Heralds; the Stormfather had no place in it. Honor himself would feel the pain of a Herald death, not the Stormfather. Lots of little circumstantial things, but I think they're all pointing towards Honor, the Shard, being around a little more than we'd thought.
  5. I'm looking forward to spending some time tonight going through it again in detail. A few thoughts and impressions (aside from the Chana Davar bit): I'm not sure if this Stormfather was really the Stormfather. Obviously, Gavilar's visions and the way the prologue Stormfather talks about Dalinar are points in favor of it being the true Stormfather. On the other hand, there are some notable differences with how he's manifesting: as an individual, and the distinctly Shard-like infinity sensation I seem to recall at the end. (That's one of the lines I want to get the exact wording.) I don't see it being Odium or another Herald manipulating Gavilar; I think, if this isn't the Stormfather, it's something very close to the Stormfather. A remnant of Honor, somehow; there's another line about "choosing to" vs "being commanded to" that make me think it's Tanavast pretending to be the Stormfather. But if it is the real Stormfather, his mission of choosing a new Herald (and then lying about stuff) and his active lying to Gavilar also throw a lot of his later interactions with Dalinar into question. Where did Gavilar get the anti-Voidlight? Also, what was the information that Gavilar tricked out of Thaidakar? I'm thinking they're one and the same, that Kelsier gave Gavilar the secret to creating anti-Voidlight. The Everstorm is still a bit of a mystery. I've gotta refresh myself a little bit on it; the storm was already in Shadesmar, I believe, back here when the Alethi first met the Parshendi, and it didn't get pulled into the Physical Realm into Words of Radiance. It allows transportation between Braize and Roshar, even from where it is in Shadesmar. But where did it come from in the first place? I had something else, but now I can't think of it, so I'll edit it in here after the transcription gets done and I can do some digging. But it was a good one, I promise. EDIT: I got it. It was Ba-Ado-Mishram as a "puzzle piece that doesn't fit," which is exactly how I've felt since RoW. Is Thaidakar interested in her, or was Kalak rambling about Odium or the Stormfather or someone when it came to "someone who could challenge him" or whatever that line was? (Ooooh, this makes me think of Stormfather as a secret villain again, like the first bullet point.) EDIT2: Here are some longer thoughts on my first and last bullet points, with the actual quotes.
  6. Apprentice theories have been pretty much quashed by the stream. Of the remaining two, one we haven't met, and one Brandon couldn't remember if we met. So that eliminates all the major characters we'd been discussing. I suspect that Rysn's Dawnshard is the same as Hoid's/Sigzil's, and it's been passing hands recently. The very interesting thing was Brandon's particular phrasing about whether Hoid/Sigzil had the same Dawnshard. We'll need to wait for the transcription, but in the moment, it made me think that Hoid has his old Dawnshard back. So I'm thinking the chain of ownership was something like: Hoid, one of the original Sixteen (who used it for the Shattering), someone on Ashyn, the mural, Rysn, Sigzil, and finally back to Hoid. The Night Brigade is chasing Sigzil since they think he has the Dawnshard; but if they catch him, they'll realize he doesn't have it, and then they'll realize Hoid has had it the whole time. That's why Sigzil has saved "the cosmere" or "just Wit"; by taking the heat off Hoid so he can hide the Dawnshard.
  7. The bracers do more than just leach away body heat. They also did a "buzzing and vibrating" when Beacon's invasion force hijacked then. It had an effect on the cinder killers, but it didn't have an effect on Sigzil, so I don't think it was just sucking the heat out of them. I think that effect was more like allomantic chromium or a larkin, pulling away their Investiture for a short time, much like Nikki Savage did to Nazh's gun in one of the broadsheets. Sigzil, not being Invested at the moment (in terms of having anything to be drained or used by Auxiliary), didn't have anything to be drained. I'm thinking the bracers are more a straight up energy transfer system. They can take away heat, they can take away Investiture. I wouldn't be surprised to see it going the other way at some point in the story, too, someone getting supercharged through bracers.
  8. I'm not sure if she's disqualified, since we may know her better than Sigzil, but Shai seems like a strong candidate of a character in the same vein of potentially becoming one of Hoid's worldhopping apprentices after her standalone story has completed. We know she did track down Hoid eventually, whether off on Sel or off, and Brandon has had plans for her outside of a planned Emperor's Soul sequel and that we will see more of her , even if he doesn't write the sequel. I do like the Worldbringers idea, potentially giving Hoid a kandra apprentice out there (if the Worldbringer in question was one of the First Generation Feruchemists). Although a regular, boring old Feruchemist also has pretty good story potential, I guess. EDIT: Forgot to link the "really cool kandra character" Brandon's waiting to fit into a book, which would be my candidate for Hoid's apprentice #3.
  9. I'm not a huge fan of that category, because it includes main characters, it includes non-Cosmere characters, and it includes characters who only had one viewpoint. I'm looking, instead, at the statistical analysis pages: https://coppermind.net/wiki/Category:Statistics There aren't any stats for the standalone novellas, but those are mostly single-character or dual-character affairs, so I don't think those will be worth looking too much into. There's also no White Sand, but the graphic novels are by nature kind of screwy in terms of "viewpoint." I don't think there was anything in the prose from Baon's viewpoint, though; we had Kenton/Khriss/Ais as the main viewpoints, with a little bit of Aarik. In Elantris, Lukel (8) and Galladon (5) look like the only two candidates. In Warbreaker, Vasher (12) has fewer viewpoints than the other three main characters, but I would still call him a main character. The book's named after him, after all. In the Mistborn Era 1, I see Spook (14), TenSoon (13), Breeze (9), and Marsh (8) as the candidates. I don't see anybody in Era 2, unless Brandon's counting stuff from Lost Metal that we can't see yet. Stormlight, as you would expect, has a lot of potentials, but it also begs the question of what makes a main character. I'm going to exclude our back-five flashback characters and Bridge Four; I would expect any of those would count as a Stormlight side novel, not a standalone novel like this has been marketed as. Which leaves us with Moash (12) and Taravangian (11), which both would fall under the same objection as the previous group. I'm keying in on one of the Mistborn characters. I know Brandon's backup plan for Thaidakar, if he couldn't work out Kelsier's survival, was going to be TenSoon wearing Kelsier's bones. So the Big Outline has, at least at one point, had TenSoon as a worldhopper, even if we haven't seen evidence of it yet in any of the canon books. If SP4 is the Count of Monte Cristo story, like I suggested above, a kandra would be pretty well suited for running a con like that. I'd also be interested in seeing what Marsh or Spook was up to. (Spook just resigned; he didn't have a recorded death, did he?) All the Mistborn characters would tie in pretty well with Kelsier and his mission, which took a larger role in RoW and looks poised to be big in TLM. So it would be pretty timely for a Mistborn side character to have a novel. But that gets back to: is it a standalone, or is it a Mistborn side novel? And that ultimately leads me back to TenSoon; as a shapeshifter, I think he can carry a book for newcomers in a way that Marsh or Spook couldn't.
  10. Brandon gave some more clarification on the SP4 protagonist, for some last-minute theorizing: Hoid's officially off the list. Somebody who has had viewpoints, though; that's new, right?
  11. All those options, but no Hoid. When trying to comb through WoBs to find retroactive clues to Secret Projects, I was reminded of Brandon's Count of Monte Cristo story. He's talked about the idea a few times, and while I suppose that someone could twist each of the other three Secret Projects' premises to sound like a Monte Cristo inspiration, the fact that Brandon hasn't mentioned it in any of his previews makes me think he's got something more explicit in mind. So, if the SP4 preview reveals a name we don't recognize, keep that in mind. The nature of the story might involve some deception, even toward us readers, of the character's true identity.
  12. Hey who remembers this WoB from last year? Compare that with lines from the story about the Chosen: Looks to me like there are no actual omens; I'm sure that's going to be a big turning point for Yumi's character arc once she realizes she isn't inherently special and that the spirits didn't choose her.
  13. Ah, I see it. My first reading, I'd thought she'd made a copy of him while he was frozen, but you're right, it looks like he was the actual coatrock.
  14. I don't think I'm going to be a big fan of this book, stylistically. The storytelling style is a little drawn-out and obtuse for me, and the body-swapping premise (which Brandon elaborates on at the end) doesn't really intrigue me, either. But these previews have a good bit of cosmere lore in them that will be making up for it. Let's start with the target audience. The first clue immediately points straight to Roshar, describing Rosharan nationalities. But things quickly fall apart; Hoid is referencing apartment buildings and power poles and firefighters and other anachronisms to current Roshar. So did that mean that Hoid is talking to future Rosharans? But then it starts to get even more difficult to reconcile: eating "marbles" instead of eating "spheres," and a straight-up reference to Scadrial. But why would Hoid use the Rosharan opening if the listener was Scadrian? To solve it, I had to go back to the marble line: "we're all going to laugh at you." Hoid isn't just talking to a single person; he's got a group, a cosmopolitan mixture of worldhoppers all gathered around. Apprentices? Friends? Hoid's Twelve Disciples? Who knows; but I think he's directing some of these comments to different individuals in the group, so I'll go out on a limb and predict that we'll get some allusions to Nalthis and Taldain as the story continues. (We've got a potential one to Sel in the "seon" reference.) The magics on both worlds feel very much like what we see on Roshar, in terms of Cognitive entities influenced by perception and Intent. I'm going to fine-tune my question for the livestream, but it's going to be something about the extent Yumi would be able to manipulate spren in imitation of fabrials on Roshar. The splitting the spirits in two, while that's what first turned me on to the fabrial comparisons, actually has much bigger thematic component, I think, in foreshadowing. Spirits are splitting into two opposite halves: the light sphere and the dark sphere, the up pusher statue and the down pusher statue. I'm seeing that dichotomy in the two worlds, as well: light and bright for Yumi, dark and cold for Painter. (Hate that name, by the way.) An inbuilt dichotomy in the hion lines, blue and pink, on the other planet, too. Obviously, since the two planets are in the same solar system, they're going to be pretty tightly connected in worldbuilding, and I expect them being opposites will come up more in the worldbuilding. (And, hey, I've got a half-written fanfic about a cosmere dual-planet star system which was each impacted in opposite ways by the local Shard. Good job on not writing that, me.) Speaking of the local Shard... obviously, we got a new one, Virtuosity, and learned that she already Splintered herself. Which prompts questions in its own right: is Virtuosity the Wisdom Shard (using Wisdom as King Solomon does throughout the book of Proverbs)? Is her self-Splintering related to her Intent, or was it the Vessel acting in opposition to her Intent? But I'm focusing more on the Shard's impact on this system and the worldbuilding. Why are the two planets like this? Is Virtuosity the "dying god" from the histories? (A phrase which, oddly enough, I want to say is very similar to how Khriss described Ambition in her Threnodite essay.) I don't think that's consistent with the tone of Hoid's throwaway line; he'll know that the shroud is due to Virtuosity's Splintering, he won't have to speculate about how it lets light from the neighbor planet break through. It almost seems like Virtuosity's Splintering is a completely separate phenomenon than whatever came upon Painter's world. Oh, and let's talk timeline. Design's there, obviously, without Hoid. So it's at least after Stormlight Five, potentially after Stormlight Ten (since I assume Hoid and Design will be hanging out throughout the series). (More parentheses; this satisfies a lot of worries about Design due to her lack of appearance in Era 2 Mistborn alongside Hoid, since it looks like they figure out a way to split up just fine.) But the catastrophe on Painter's world happened seventeen hundred years ago, which puts it suspiciously close to the time of the Recreance on Roshar, if I'm remembering it right. Which raises some more questions about Virtuosity's Splintering; did she last this long? Or was it an event that had occurred long before the body of the dying god started raining down? Oh, and one more to ride out on "fay, seon, or spirit." Why not use "spren" here? And also, who the heck calls them "fay"? (Notably not "fey," which is how I'm used to seeing fairies referred to.)
  15. Kingmaker is a story of his he worked on a little bit and abandoned. There's an excerpt available; he read it at his con late last year. The Kingkiller Chronicle is an unfinished series of books by another author; Brandon brought it up as a point of comparison to his plans for Dragonsteel, since he's intending a similar style where it's written as if narrated by the main character. I'm betting it's the line where he says "I am working quite a bit on this planet [the core aether planet] for future projects." There were three Untitled Aether Books listed in State of the Sanderson 2019, which reads to me like a trilogy, which I would count as a single project. I wonder what other projects aethers would be relevant for? Personally, I think aethers from Aether of Night are much better suited for a video game than most other Cosmere magics; they're not hyperspecific, like Allomancy or Surgebinding, but they're also not infinitely broad like AonDor or Awakening. So it'd be cool if he was tooling around with an Aether Video Game as a way to sneak them in to canon outside of his writing schedule, the same way White Sand snuck in as a graphic novel.