Shardcast: Oathbringer Tour Words of Brandon Part 1


This week, we are delving into the Words of Brandon from the Oathbringer tour (and Brandon's two holiday signings in Utah). There's so much to talk about, especially from the London signing, so we brought Ben--Overlord Jebus--to help us analyze this stuff. There's so much to talk about though that we recorded three episodes worth of content for the Oathbringer tour, and they are meaty ones.  

Our goal, of course, is to inform you about cool facts as well as analyze, so we hope you like it. Full spoilers for all the cosmere in this episode. We're doing everything! As always, you can go to Arcanum for all your quote needs. If you'd like to help transcribe, you can! Check out our forum and Discord for information on that. 

Our cast today is Eric (Chaos), Ian (WeiryWriter), David (Windrunner), and Ben (Overlord Jebus). Unfortunately David and Ben's audio was quite poor so I had to use our Skype audio for this, which is of worse quality. I tried to get the volume levels correct and it isn't perfect, so... I know. 

We'll see you next week for way more quotes. There will be a third installment, too, but we might split that one up with another episode so you don't get bored.

 

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To me, the obvious question about spren being of Cultivation is did Honor and Cultivation come to Roshar because the spren have a large amount of Cultivation's investiture? 

The Eila Stele does say the humans came using powers singers were forbidden to touch. That implies to me that surges were forbidden before humans came, and it's not due to Odium's influence. 

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They came from another world, using powers that we have been forbidden to touch. Dangerous powers, of spren and Surges.

If you can power Surgebinding with Breaths and Breaths are stickier than Stormlight, would a Full Lashing powered with Breaths last longer than one powered by Stormlight. 

Great episode, lots of really funny moments. 

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Mestiv

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So what is this Arcanum thing that I keep hearing about? :P

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2 hours ago, Extesian said:

Adolnasium :lol:

Adonalshum is clearly the best pronunciation ;)

@thegatorgirl00, thanks! Glad you enjoyed :D I'd say it's possible they went to Roshar because Cultivation felt her connection to it. The Breaths/Stormlight thing is dependent on the ratio and I think Brandon has stated even he hasn't worked out an SI unit for Investiture yet so it's hard to say (I do think that he's said they are considering the Breath as a unit for Investiture because they are all the same amount). We'll have to wait and see!

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Board if you spaced out the podcasts. I would get bored because I don't have I'd have no podcast to listen to for two weeks.

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Adonalsium is going to be the Cosmere's Benedryl Cutiebrunch.

Adolinism 

Alodizzium

Aldonaisium (Jebus)

Adonihilism

I could go on...

Edit: More thoughts:

Pretty sure Odium had help on Sel, from Autonomy, that he didn't have when going up against Honor and Cultivation.

On Parshendi becoming Radiants, if Preservation couldn't block Allomancy from someone, and Magics are more natural, how could Honor have prevented the Parshendi from Bonding? Do you think it's something to do with Intent? I could more see Odium or Cultivation interfering if that's the case.

Where was the confirmation of White Sand Prose being rewritten??

I wonder if Elantrians are immune to the Dor as they can use it? Though maybe not, as Raoden was almost destroyed by it before using it properly.

"Gavellininor" --lol

Now do you think Hoid is personally afraid of Nightblood being able to kill him, or is he afraid of Nightblood and what he is as important to the Cosmere?

@Overlord Jebus, Seattle Comic-Con is March 1-4, not May. I'll be there on the Sunday, hope to see you there!

Looking forward to a Nightblood podcast. Totally okay with next week's being more WoBs, js.

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WeiryWriter, I really like your analysis of Mist Spren possibly being truthwatcher spren due to how similar they are to Nightwatcher, nice observations.

One other thing listening to the podcast, when you were all discussing the strange super amped power burst that Windrunner's get when swearing their 2nd order ideals and higher, there is one other similar but slightly more muted instance of this. When Szeth swears his third ideal:

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"Not yet. I swear to follow the will of Dalinar Kholin. This is my oath."

At the words snow crystallized around him in the air, and then fluttered down. He felt a surge of something. Approval? From the hidden spren, who only rarely showed itself to him, even still.

Spren are a proportional mixture of H+C cultivation, with some spren like the High Spren and the Honor Spren claiming that they are most like Honor. The burst of energy that the Windrunner's get have extra built up potential/pressue because of the still free Investiture of Honor's loose on Roshar due to his splintering. This mini-manifestation of the oath supercharge that Szeth gets from swearing his ideal could be because the High Spren are likewise made mostly of Honor's Investiture, but gauging by the effect, probably not as high of a percentage of Honor as the Honor Spren.

Can't wait for the next WoB roundup podcast, might be fun to come up with some classification terms to categorize the qualitative aspects of Brandon's answers, here are a couple possible ones:

  • WoBfuscation–Intentionally vague answer designed to conceal something he would rather RAFO
  • WoBtuse–Where Brandon answers the question technically accurately, while ignoring the real question.
  • WoBble–Where Brandon seems to say something, then qualifies it, so that the net effect is an non-answer (this category of WoB has a lot of observations by the questioner of Brandon hemming and hawing)
  • WoBomb–A huge reveal, like the Patji revelation.

 

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On 1/19/2018 at 2:54 PM, Khyrindor said:

On Parshendi becoming Radiants, if Preservation couldn't block Allomancy from someone, and Magics are more natural, how could Honor have prevented the Parshendi from Bonding?

I imagine it was as simple as Honor telling the spren not to choose singers. As I understand the timeline, spren didn't start bonding with people until after at least the first desolation, probably not until after the first few. So the fused already existed and the singers were at least somewhat aligned with Honor's enemy by that point. Honor's choice to deny them Radiance may well have pushed them the rest of the way into Odium's camp.

 

Regarding gems on Roshar, during the Firefight tour I got WoB that gems come both from mining and from gemhearts, though mining is hard on Roshar (link) and that gems for spheres are encased in glass both by glassblowing and by soulcasting (link).

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Slowswift

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Finally got around to listening to this, and I must say I am irrationally pleased that one of my questions made it onto the podcast. :D:P 

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