Elbereth

Excellent, thanks! That works perfectly. And yay. Kipper's back! And Burnt's playing! And Rae! This is going to be fun.

Hmm... Okay. Does this game take place before or during the Siege?

Yeah. I just couldn't remember if there were any in Luthadel at the time. And I'm aware it's near WoA, but I'm not sure what the timeframe is there. How long between the last night of TFE and the beginning of WoA? Days? Weeks? Months?

Sandhya grinned as she felt a draft of cool air on her face, but didn't look up. She finished the last stroke of the A she was working on and set her brush down gently on the marble of the table beside the illumination she'd been doing. Then, and only then, did she look up, down the length of the empty ballroom where her sister was gently closing the door out to the balcony behind her. Sandhya quickly got up and went around the long table, trying to appear like she was just happy to see Thanata rather than hiding the illumination from her. No need to spoil the surprise, after all. "Hey, Sandhya!" Thanata said with a smile, taking off her mistcloak and revealing a black tunic and black trousers beneath. Sandhya gasped mockingly. "Trousers! How scandalous!" Thanata stuck her tongue out, some of the hardness going out of her eyes. "What, you expect me to fly around in a dress all the time and let any passers by see my legs? Would that not be more scandalous?" "I suppose," Sandhya allowed. "But really, sister. Trousers? I nearly thought you were a man, coming to court me." "And so I am," said Thanata, drawing herself upright and proffering her arm. "My lady. Would you care to dance." Sandhya twirled into Thanata's arms with a grin. "I would love to. My lord." The two girls whirled around the floor for endless minutes, to music only they could hear. One was dressed in black, hair in a tight bun, eyes hard as stone, with a pair of obsidian knives tucked away in her clothing. The other was in a beautiful bright blue evening gown, like the sky on an ashless day - if such a thing existed. Her beautiful brown hair fell in waves down her back, and she smiled with carefree joy. If anyone had been watching from outside the stained glass of the windows, they might have seemed a gentleman and his lady at some ball, but for the fact that the room was deserted except for them, and the fact that there were no balls. Not anymore. Thanata whirled Sandhya around three times and dipped her dramatically low, finishing the dance. Then they both collapsed to the floor laughing like none of the past year had ever happened. Thanata sobered first, turning to glance behind her at the balcony where she'd entered. "Thinking you could be out flying instead of dancing with your dreary old sister?" "No," Thanata said fervently, ignoring her sister's flippant tone. "I've seen enough already. Too much, maybe." "Always so serious," Sandhya complained. "Where's my fun older sister who gave me piggybacks around the walls?" "She died with the Lord Ruler," Thanata answered quietly. "How can I stand idly by and watch the world collapse around me?" "It's not collapsing, really, though. Just... reforming. Isn't it?" Thanata turned to face Sandhya. "The Lord Ruler died, Sandy. A millenium of steady, constant rule, gone in a night because of some skaa girl. How can that be a good thing? How can this new world be better than the old one? "I saw a body tonight, Sandhya." She delivered the words flatly, without anything in her face to say what she was feeling. "Some dead noble, strung up like the Inquisitors used to do to skaa who overstepped, but with a big hole in his chest like he was stabbed with a sword first. He was an Allomancer - found the vials in his pockets. And I've heard of at least one more Allomancer gone missing, too. There's an Inquisitor in town. And it's searching for people like me." "No," Sandhya said. "It can't be. Must be some skaa trying to scare us or something. The Inquisitors were the Lord Ruler's loyal servants. I assumed they just kind of... disappeared, I guess, when he died. What would they do, anyway?" "Kill Allomancers, apparently. And I can't assume it was just skaa. I hope it is... but I don't think so." "Then you're staying home," Sandhya declared. "Can't have you going and getting yourself killed by a rogue Inquisitor." But Thanata was shaking her head. "I can't, Sandy. I'm sorry. But I have to protect our family, our House. That's more important than my own safety. And you know Father would never allow that." Sandhya sighed. "Probably not. But... I just want you to be safe, Thana." Thanata smiled, or tried to. "I know. But I can't be. Not if I'm protecting you." "I can take care of myself," Sandhya protested weakly. Thanata snorted. "No, you can't. You have no idea what's out there in the big scary world, you with your ballgowns and your calligraphy. You don't have any more responsibilities than to sit with Father at dinner and make eyes at your pretty young suitors. You don't know how protected from the world you are, and you should never have to." She stood up, proffering a hand to Sandhya. "I hope you never have to learn the dangers of the real world, sister. I truly do. I'm heir and Mistborn, so I had to, but you? You're free. "Stay that way. Keep a little spot of brightness in the world." Thanata gathered up her mistcloak. "I should report to Father. You'll have to show me your newest illumination another time, I think." "See you later, Thanata," Sandhya said brightly, glad that Thanata hadn't asked to see it. She wasn't nearly done yet. "Goodbye, Sandhya." Thanata smiled one last time, then visibly turned herself cold. That was how she dealt with everyone else, Sandhya knew. But that didn't make it any less heartbreaking to see. Thanata left without another word. Sandhya did one more desultory twirl, then went back to work on her calligraphy up at the high table. She stared at the name for a moment, then picked up a small brush and began outlining the silver letters of her sister's name in black. Well, that got a little longer than I was expecting. 2 things: I don't know what the timeframe is here, and I don't know whether there are still balls anymore. If anyone can tell me either of those things, I'll change them. I'm going to like this game. EDIT: Unless I die. Then I will be sad.

Oh, I did have a question, brought on by this bit: If multiple Houses attack the same house with koloss, what happens? Are the defending House's koloss divided up between the two, or sent to fight one and then the other? If they lose both battles, does one person die or two?

Yay! Point of order - were there still balls after Elend's ascension to the throne? I thought they stopped... Been a while since I read the books, though.

This will be fun. Signing up as Sandhya, please. I'm seriously considering my RP playstyle this game, given that I haven't done that in a while. Essentially that'd mean I prioritize RP posts over posting acutal commentary, rather than the other way around, and require myself to do at least one post of RP a turn. If anyone else is RPing, I'd love to have a RP partner!

Several things to say but no time to say them. Agh. I'll be around a little bit today, maybe, but don't count on anything more from me. Edited in another bit about Joe (bolded for convenience, but it doesn't fit as its own separate paragraph - it's referring to something specific). Numbered since I can't figure out how to split up quotes in this format. 1. Yup! That's why people tend to have smaller point values from me the more experienced they are. I'm much less certain about my deduction. (For instance, literally all of Alv's posts on LG20 were 0's. I didn't find anything from any of them.) Well, also, I look more for things that a villager would do and an eliminator wouldn't rather than the other way around. Which is harder for eliminators to do. 2. I don't think it's overstated. It might, however, be poorly stated, given how late it was last night. I would normally be a lot more aggressive about saying it, but I was tired, so I defaulted to my normal state of being meek and non-accusatory. 3. In some cases, I'd agree with you. But lynching Aman? I don't think so. Not on the first cycle. He's too valuable for that. Okay, that's all I have time for. More replies to come later.

Right. Not sure how long this'll be... I've taken notes on cycles 1 and 2 so far, but not C3, so keep that in mind as you read through. Elodin - Vaguely suspicious, I guess? Of the four posts he made in the first two cycles, the only opinion he voiced was that immediate poke-votes were evil. That's it. And looking at his posts C3, the only other thing of note is this (and the fact that he's been busier lately with school). Which isn't even worth much notice, imo. So... nothing much to say here. I would vote on him, but he did provide an excuse for inactivity, so I won't. Yet. Slight props to him for revealing he got an item, though. This cycle he's seemed more village. Joe - currently my highest suspicion. In my note-taking format at the moment, I rank each post. Five is a really village-like post, all the way down to -3 or so (unless something's really obviously evil). Joe made seventeen posts, and the sum of all of those posts is -1. I'm putting my evidence down below everyone else, so I can make things look a little nicer. For now, let's just say fairly heavy suspicion. Maill - very small gut good read. Been quiet. Made three posts in first two cycles. I'd think he'd be more active as an eliminator, but I'm not very sure. So... Not much here, either. Winter - Vague village. This isn't very strong, either, for most of the same reasons - not much posting, etc. And it's entirely gut. But it's a village read. Lopen - moderate trust. Was reluctant about the item-passing plan, but reasonably so, in my opinion. Was suspicious of Zas' vote on Aman, which I think is very villagery. An eliminator wouldn't want to comment on that for fear of backlash later. But from a village perspective? That vote was really super suspicious. So that makes me trust him. Plus littler things like caring enough about who's on at turnover to ask someone else to do it, and his defense of himself to Con reads good to me. (I also have a fair amount of reason to be paranoid of him, but I think he's probably village. Maybe. ) Sart - somewhat strong trust, mostly for his vote on Aman. Also, his repeated focus on the lynch rather than the item plan, of which I approve greatly. The items are important and take some coordination, but the lynch is equally valuable and perhaps even better for catching eliminators. A couple things have rubbed me the wrong way (advice that knives be used early on, the fact that he voted Aman to tie the lynch rather than actually kill Aman (although gambling with a fellow eliminator's life like that would be needlessly risky, probably), the fact that he didn't mention he was itemless until C3 that I could find), but much more seems good to me (questions about evil doc, frustration that not enough people are voting, vote on Aman, well-reasoned points against Lopen). Mek - I... mostly trust, but there's a few weird things. The whole baiting Joe thing was odd to me: how the heck is that test supposed to help at all? Joe probably got several claims (...if people claimed dust or knives to Joe, again... I'm not going to be happy), and probably better than second hand. So if he were an eliminator, telling him DC had an item wouldn't really do anything. I don't know whether Mek would realize that, though. Secondly, he's confused about the plan, I think, still. But then, the wording of the OP wasn't entirely clear, so I'll wait on Ripple before looking at more of that. Anyway, onto the trust stuff, he raised a good question about why Phatt was killed. His reveal of having a knife seemed ill-advised from my perspective for both sides, but it seemed much more like a villager thing to do than an eliminator. Fairly consistent in defending himself, I feel like? Meh. Some trust. Moving on. Bard - Weak trust. He asked a question of Ripple (which she nixed) that suggested something that would've been bad for the eliminators. Was a bit reluctant about the plan at first, then went ahead and supported it when it looked like it was gaining momentum, which is a point against him. He votes Zas at first, when I feel that an eliminator would remember he meant Con. He does seem focused on the idea that people not passing is how the plan is supposed to catch elimiantors. (Which isn't the point. Eliminators can pass just as well as the rest of us. But since there's probably only two left, either there's one without an item at the moment and we'll know (in which case we look at those people), or they're both tied up in sending items and either create a mess which we can pick apart to deduce who the eliminators are or they're forced not to use their kill. Which is definitely a good thing. Okay, this is going in parentheses since it's entirely beside the point.) But I do get a village read from him overall, and the beginning banter stuff does read more village - otherwise he'd just say that kind of thing in his doc. Zas - Strong trust. Broke the tie on Aman. Asked Ripple a good question (about passing items multiple times a turn I think) which would've been bad for the eliminators. Good points on voting Con. Really, not too much to say here, but I do trust him a fair amount. Bugsy - Moderate village read. Only thing really of note is that he urged people to help out with the plan, which the eliminators (presuming they understood the plan at that point and weren't just like "oh, that's easy, we'll just pass and be cleared! woo! Silly El trying to trap us! ", which is possible) wouldn't want. Okay, then. Several things before I go to sleep (which I should be already...). First off, why did Con die? This is an interesting question. He doesn't seem like an awesome eliminator target like Sart or Zas. He even had some lynch votes on him multiple times. So why kill him? The only thing I can think of is an item reason. Joe was passing to Con. But if they killed Con, Joe would get to keep his item, and the kill would still be carried out regardless of whether people were trapped in the plan or not! ...Hmm, actually. Wait. Cloud was theoretically free to do whatever action he liked. So he could very well have put in the eliminator kill. (The other possibility that fits this scenario, I suppose, is that one of Cloud or Joe (probably Joe because Cloud hasn't been passed any items so the team would've had it from the beginning and if so why wouldn't they have used it already?) had the knife that killed DC, so one put in the evil kill and one put in the knife kill.) Ripple, you never answered my question about what you'd do in the case of multiple eliminator orders? Some quotes I never got around to answering: I definitely agree with the first part. We should probably assume that the no kill was just miscommunication at this point. Does put a little more suspicion on the less active/forgetful players, though. I disagree, but obviously we have a fundamental disagreement about what's supposed to happen, so... Basically, as far as I'm aware, passing can't be done the same time as the eliminator kill. So by getting people to pass we clear them of doing the kill that cycle and we can deduce if there are enough items (which there are, now) who the eliminator is, hopefully. Pass it to Mek, I believe. @winter devotion Explain, please? And Joe, you're not told when you successfully pass an item or not, I don't think. But you should still have yours, yes. You won't be alone in being annoyed. If that turns out to be the case, feel free to lynch me. I'll be too irritated to be helpful, anyway. Pass to Elodin, please. I'm assuming it because it makes the most sense to me. We know SD had an item. It was implied to be fairly important (didn't want to pass it, didn't think other people would want to reveal that they had that particular item). No one else has stepped up to claim the kill, nor has anyone said they received SD's item. So it was probably used up, and probably the knife kill. Since no one else has claimed, the only person other than SD it could be is the eliminators. And why would the eliminators kill DC? That's a poor choice. So yeah. Probably SD. Yes. Okay, last thing: Joe. (If this isn't coherent, sorry. I should be around in the morning a bit to clarify things. Also, that reminds me - schedule. It's actually a little more lax than I implied earlier, due to... circumstances, so I may actually be able to be around a bit tomorrow. Can't promise anything, though.) The first thing of note is his poke on Aman. As I've said before, this is very easily a poke on an inactive teammate to get them to come to the doc. That's a reasonable tactic. Can't tell at this point. The interesting part comes when he doesn't retract once other votes are put on, nor even comment about the lynch more than "oh, huh, guess this writeup will be boring then". Compared to Lopen, who (correctly, in my opinion) called Zas out on being suspicious for that vote. Joe doesn't get cold feet about the lynch or anything. He just ignores it. Next, he points out a couple of "major" flaws in my plan. At least in my view, I'd already thought of people having no items, and passing knives is really not that big of a flaw. At all. Those reasons certaionly aren't "major" flaws, in my opinion. It felt to me like he was trying to push against my plan while still seeming reasonable about it and not just reluctant for no good reason. However, I could be biased because I created the plan, so let's move on. Next post of note is close after C2 turnover. (It's the one with the skeptical emoticons, if people want to look back.) First, he says he's suspicious of the people who voted on Aman. Less suspicious of them than everyone else, but still suspicious. And notes that they're not cleared. Now, I think they are indeed mostly cleared, and this feels like he's trying to put suspicion on them so they're not trusted quite so much, because there's nothing eliminators hate like confirmed good. That post also contains a vote on Bard for the evil of Lists™ (although I'd argue his list is much more of a Chart). Reason I point this out is that he then immediately says he's more suspicious of Mek now. So... why not vote on Mek, instead of a joke vote? And he also didn't explain his reasoning for being suspicious of Mek at all, other than clearly referring to Mek's most recent post. Which reads very village to me. EDIT: And whatever happened to "trust before suspicion"? You're only talking about people you suspect. Not those who trust. We have his argument that knives can in fact be used by eliminators, by killing the person they were passing to. This obviously wouldn't work at all, because we'd know who was supposed to be passing, and see that a knife was used. The conclusion is fairly obvious, and even if we didn't lynch that person they'd certainly be put under a lot more suspicion than I think they're willing to risk. So this point is invalid, I think. Last thing I have on this point is the "why Con" thing. Now, it's possible that the eliminators were trying to frame Joe for being an eliminator - but given so much other evidence, I'd say that was deliberate to let Joe keep his item (or use it if it was a knife - did Con claim to anyone? Because if not, that's unfortunate because only Joe would know what it was). That's why Con was the eliminator target. Note: if people would like links to anything in this post, I can provide them in the morning. Not interested or awake enough right now to bother. Okay, I'm done. It's far too late. I'll be on in seven or eight hours for a little bit, and then after that I might get on in snatches, maybe. We'll see.

Huh, so it does. Ripple? Also, even then I'm pretty sure the kill is sent in by a single person and the other eliminators can do what they wish. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

Each person gets one action. The eliminator kill counts as an action. So one of the eliminators has to send in the kill. The rest can do whatever they'd like, including using knives. Or passing. Seconded. If someone else killed DC, please claim.

Not if you don't want to, no. I'd say it's better to keep the items a secret, personally. It doesn't matter to the circle what your items are, just that you have one.

I mean... two knives were used. One, presumably, by SD, who is now dead. So it's not inconceivable that Lopen would lie and say he killed Cloud when in reality he was the one to kill DC. But... is that likely? I'd think as an eliminator he'd go for someone a bit more dangerous than a complete inactive. So yeah, I'd say he's soft-confirmed.

No, that's not what I meant. Not the dagger. You shouldn't have been able to pass whatever item you had to DC. He was already dead before you tried. The item that Con attempted to pass you should have been redistributed, though. To Maill, apparently.

Okay, item tracking time. (Results are at the bottom if you don't care about the process. I just think it'll be useful later, and I'm doing it to figure everything out anyway, so it's not difficult to make it nice and post it.) C1: Bold is those who had an item at the start of the cycle. Italics is those who had an item at the end. People who passed: El, Winter, Lopen, Bugsy. C2: Bold is those who had an item at start and italics at end, as before. People who passed: Bard, Mek, Con. C3: Again, same deal with bold (didn't bother with italics, sorry). Note that links won't work once thread is merged. People who passed/used items: Lopen, Joe, Mek. Note that Mek and Joe can't be confirmed (although DC would have had to have two items before Mek passed for that to be the case) since the persons they passed to died. C4: Elodin (1)- received item from DC's corpse Joe (1)- attempted to pass to Con but failed, did not receive item from Winter Maill (1)- received item from Con's corpse Winter (1)- apparently didn't pass to Joe Lopen (1)- had two items, knife disappeared El (1)- received item from DC's corpse Sart (0)- still has no items, I think? Mek (1)- wait... Mek, you should still have your dagger. Check with Ripple. Bard (0)- still has no items? Zas (0)- still has no items? Bugsy (0)-still has no items? Huh. I guess DC had two items? And I'm thinking SD had a dagger, which was used because SD knew he was getting lynched. Yes? So there are seven items left in the game, and eleven players. That's actually fairly reasonable. Tentative plan for this cycle: Mek, pass to me. Elodin, pass to Mek. Everyone else pass to the person above you in that list. Sound good? Okay. Suspicions will be coming in a later post, since this took way too long and I want to finish going through C2. I'm probably going to have to spoiler it... EDIT: Yup.

o.O I should not be on but I couldn't resist checking and... um... okay? Hm. Ripple, will there be a distinction between shade and eliminator kills? Will be on to actually talk in an hour or so, likely. EDIT: Wait. SD was lynched. Never mind. I forgot that that happened.

Okay, I'm here but distracted by real life, so I'm going to try to get this off as fast as possible before turnover but no promises. I'm here, and I do have thoughts on players but not the time to write them out right now. I'll post that later tonight, I promise. Those both sound fine to me, although I still really think it's a waste of a one-shot kill item if you're only mildly suspicious of anyone. I didn't give thoughts on the kills before mostly because you didn't sound like you were asking for comments. You were just like "these are my possible kills". And I don't think I had particularly strong feelings about any of them at the time (although now I would advise against killing Bard or Mek, because I have some tentative trust for both). (My online times are not indicative of when I'm actually online, by the way. Just because the page is open doesn't mean I'm in the same room. Or the same building, most of the time. ) I'm okay with a lynch on SD, because they've been inactive. However, I'm fairly sure they're not an eliminator, just because no other lynch candidates have really been suggested at all, which tells me the eliminators are perfectly happy with that. Okay, I'm going to go check the item progression one last time. Was SD giving items to anyone, did we ever figure that out?

So long as you realize the knife can only be used once. I still think it's a bit premature to use it now, but your choice. Also, this means Bard can't get back into the circle anymore since we don't have a surplus anywhere. Sorry, Bard. If you use it on someone in the circle, that's fine, but can you rearrange things so that we still have a circle next cycle? Keep in mind that there are no protection roles, so it's not like anyone can stop you even if they know your target. Con - awesome! Go ahead and just pass to Joe, please. Right, I need to leave and won't be back before half an hour before turnover (as far as I'm aware). If I'm lucky. Hopefully the cycle goes well!

>> That is your prerogative, if you so wish. In my personal opinion, the knife will do more good staying in the game and clearing people. But if you're certain you know who an eliminator is, you can indeed use it on them. Let me know whether you decide to (in PM if you wish) and I'll rearrange the circle accordingly. EDIT: Also, great writeup, Joe! Reminds me that I need to be doing some RP...

No, I saw that you'd posted. I just sent it anyway because it said a bit more than your post did. People have ninja'd me, though. (Just not as often as you'd think. In QF15 I lied a lot about getting ninja'd. And at least once in LG22, I believe.)

Yeah. The alternative is that he keeps sending it to you and you send it to Mek. I just picked what seemed the better option, though either works.

Yeah, agreed. If Con's willing. I think... let's see how this looks. Lopen->Bard (thus both have one item and can join the circle next time), Mek->DC->Winter->Joe->Con->Mek. Does that look right? I think that makes everyone there have one item. In theory, at least. And that way Con still gets your (originally his) item. He just gives it to Mek instead of you. I think that works.

Thanks, Bard! I was going to do that when I put up an analysis-post, but that's still not ready. I went and played cards instead. I'd greatly prefer if you and Con joined the main circle, Joe (just because that ensures you can't be eliminators together). Only if you're both willing to, though. I assumed you weren't, which is why I left you as you were.

Chaos. It's fine. We can tolerate double-posts for a few hours. The update is so worth it. Get some sleep. Before I get into my main thing - about my schedule, since it seems to have settled down. As far as I know, for at least the duration of this QF, I will be absent from 9:30 a.m. PDT to no earlier than 4:30 p.m. PDT. Often up to an hour later, which means missing turnover. Sorry about that. I should be fine after turnover for several hours, though. Anyway. Interesting point. So, since there are no protection roles this game (which is annoying at times but that's too bad), there are essentially two possible reasons for no kill: The eliminators chose not to send in a kill. This would mean either they're all inactive/missed turnover (possible, though I regard it as somewhat unlikely unless it's a SD/DC team with someone else who forgot - you could argue that it's a team of those two and me, but even then I give it an even chance that I'd have remembered to send in the kill before I left), or they deliberately didn't send in a kill to implicate the people passing actions. That's easy enough to test, though. We just need the people who passed last round to pass again. If there's no kill, they're probably eliminators (and if that's not the case it doesn't matter because we'll just have those same people keep passing and either the eliminators keep on not killing and thus are basically toothless or eventually they kill again and we know that the people passing aren't necessarily eliminators). The eliminators couldn't send in a kill because they had to pass items. (There's the potential of one of them being able to send in a kill but being inactive, so let's be careful of that, but it's currently beside the point.) So... well, same plan as before. We need the same people to pass again. Actually... Ripple, if you got two conflicting eliminator kill orders, what would be the result? (I'm female, by the way. ) Thanks for reminding me. This is why I think it's the second option, not the first. I'd think the eliminators would really like to kill Sart or Zas at this point. Particularly Sart, because he was also getting passed a knife. Couldn't ask for a better target than that. So I think they would have if they could have. SD, if it's a knife, everyone already knows the location of one (with Lopen at the moment). If it's one of the other two items, I don't think they'd be that hard to find out about. Right. So. Time to break out the charts again. Master Elodin - claims no item Joe - passed item to Conq, got item from Conq Mailliw - claims no item Cloudjumper - claims no item Conquestor - passed item to Joe, got item from Joe Winter - currently has an item which she forgot to pass; likely given an item by Lopen Lopen - got item from Mek, passed item to Winter Elbereth - claims no item Sart - claims no item Mek (Mckeedee) - passed item to Lopen, received item from Bard TheYoungBard - passed item to Mckeedee Zas678 - claims no item Deathclutch - currently has an item which he likely did not pass due to not knowing who to pass it to Bugsy6912 - claims no item SilverDragon - has item but was unwilling to pass it Players in blue currently have items, as far as I'm aware. So the chain looks like it was: Bard -> Mek -> Lopen -> Winter Conq <-> Joe So Bard, Mek, Lopen, Joe, and Conq would be cleared if there had been an eliminator kill. Which there was not. That's a pretty small pool of people to have the entire eliminator team in there... I'm guessing that it's a combination of #1 and #2. The only people who could have sent in the kill were inactive or some such. Okay, so there are currently eight items in the game that we know of and sixteen players. That's actually a fairly solid amount, particularly as the game goes on and the numbers start going down. My suggestion: Conq and Joe keep passing back and forth. This does leave us open to the possibility of both of them being eliminators and only pretending to pass, but if that were the case there probably would have been a kill last cycle. Which there was not. So I feel fairly secure in saying at least one of them is a villager. SD passes back and forth with someone else, whoever has the same item. That'll affect the below, so I'll have to adapt it, but it shouldn't be too hard. Winter -> Bard. Mek -> Lopen, Lopen -> DC, DC -> Mek. (Winter has two items at the moment, so she's giving one to the person in last cycle's chain who doesn't currently have an item, which is Bard. That way after this cycle all five of these people can go in a big circle.) Does anyone have any objections or any other suggestions? (Or other items. That'd be nice, too.) And I agree with Sart - this plan is fun and all, but we can't rely on it to catch eliminators. The lynch is equally important. But this post is plenty long enough already, so I'll be going through the previous cycles after I post this, and then I'll come back and vote on someone. Hopefully this formats correctly. I'm really not used to the rich text editor...

Once the current QF finishes, signups will go up. (Based on previous games, that'll be about a week or so.) LG23 signups should go up in a couple of days as well. Welcome!