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  1. Araris Valerian
    Hadrian was worried. His house had spent a significant portion of its wealth purchasing materials for just one edition of one book. At this rate, he would be bankrupt long before he had a chance to write himself into a history text. "Royce! See how many boxings you can scrounge up and go buy all of the paper mills in the city. Also, look into where a good place to start a tree farm would be in this accursed ash. There must be some place where we can truly start to dominate this industry." "Yes mi'lord. Might I recommend that you invest your efforts into another area? If the current supplies of paper are destroyed then we would practically be bankrupt." "All in good time, my dear fellow. All in good time. We have only been here for a few years, I figure that we have at least a couple more before somebody gets devastated by a wayward ashmount's eruption or something of the like. Perhaps in the future we can look into the textile industry, for making banners and the like. Anyhow, be about your business." As Royce scurried away, Hadrian pondered his current goals. He hoped that dominating literature in the Final Empire would give his house an edge in future generations. By controlling the flow of writing materials, his house could effectively limit which philosophers and Houses would be able to influence the general population. But his house was too small and too weak. Perhaps he could offer a favorable depiction of another House in exchange for protection...
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    Lord Penrod stared out over the city of Luthadel from his vantage point atop Keep Penrod. He had known that many kings would flock towards the new emperor in an attempt to cling on to some last vestige of their former power. However, Hadrian had hoped that he himself would be able to offer a service so unique that the Lord Ruler would bless him with the powers of Allomancy. No matter. Those kings may have had experience running entire kingdoms, but they would be little better off than himself at managing a noble House. "Royce!" Hadrian called. The scribe approached. "Yes, mi'lord?" "Prepare paper and gather my best historians. I would like to begin writing the history of this 'Final Empire.' Surely the Lord Ruler will want all accounts of the past to show him in a favorable light, and the other Lords will wish to purchase books from us to show their own loyalty." "Already done, mi'lord." Royce hurried off to finalize a deal for the necessary supplies.
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    Since it seems like this thread is going to be open for a little longer, I would like to ask Wilson what she means about me. I haven't been in any PMs to say suspicious things, and I have been considerably more active than many other players, especially considering that I have been pretty busy IRL. Also, I have stated my opinion on every major event that has happened in this game, so it isn't as if my lower level of activity should make it hard to come up with a reason to vote for me. Surely there is something that I said at one point or another that is suspicious, but I have found things like that in posts by all of the "cleared" players. The only thing I can think of that I really haven't done is a full player list analysis, but I have never done that in previous games either. This is almost kind of my "playstyle" since if you look back at the other long games about this time people start to flag me for flying under the radar or something like that. And maybe Hael has been involved in some of those suspicious PMs that Wilson brought up, but otherwise I think that he had pretty weak reasoning for that vote. I don't really understand what the "problem" Wilson had that he is also facing, but if it has to do with not being sure about people you suspect, I think it is better to go off of your own weak suspicion than to tag along with somebody else's hunch that is based off of PMs you don't even have access to. (Again, assuming that Hael is not the person Wilson is in contact with)
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    Hadrian Penrod stared at the sky. Once a brilliant blue emblazoned with rays from a golden sun, the air above was a dull grey, the sun blood red behind obscuring clouds of ash. The world had changed, no doubt about it. With such change came great opportunity, and Hadrian knew that this was his chance to earn a place in the new order. Surely a new empire would need writers and philosophers to record the events that would make up history, and Hadrian knew of no other man outside of Terris that could match his skill. So many people will come offering power over land and armies. But I will give the Lord Ruler control over the minds of the people themselves. Yeah! Hadrian Penrod of House Penrod is joining the game as a historian with a great reputation but few material possessions. Hopefully I can keep up with this and thank you Wyrm for creating such an awesome game!
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    @ Wilson: Oops, it seems I confused his rebuttal with a vote. In that case I would like to change my vote to Clanky. The other points that I brought up about Honey Badger are still valid, however. Also, you said that the two other people that are participating in conversation are Kipper and Haelbarde. But as has been mentioned, mostly Hael has been posting poetry and very convenient links. Also, Wyrm seems to be fairly active. I am going to be giving a graduation speech in about 3 hours, after which I have some celebrating to do, which I can follow with much more attention to this game. However, aside from inactivity, the only people that really stood out to me are the ones that I mentioned above.
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    Sorry everyone, I was working on a long post yesterday but it became a bit redundant because I worked on it on and off for about 4 hours, and by the time that I finished everything I said had already been brought up or discounted. I think I have come up with 2 suspicions. Honey Badger and Clanky. So, Honey Badger was the second person to put a vote on Mailliw, and created pressure of a lynch right then. Honey Badger had already been voted for by Mailliw. Bort, who we are also suspicious of due to the last set of Elantrian votes, placed a third vote on Badger. Maybe it isn't very concrete, but we can trust Mailliw's suspicions as unbiased, and Honey Badger was also one of the people that was present during the lynch on Meta and made an appearance, but didn't actually join a side. I think Winter was fairly clever by giving up after the reveal of her identity, because it meant there was no point in any eliminators trying to get involved in discussion, and it was a decent attempt to stop any more discussion from happening that day. It also seems like Winter suspected something like that reveal would happen, and cautioned her team to not jump on the lynch for Meta. As for Clanky, again focusing on the Mailliw lynch, I found it fairly suspicious that he voted for Mailliw without his own reasons before the lynch was clear-cut. At that time, Honey Badger had two votes and Mailliw had 3, so Clanky kind of sealed the deal. It seems like most of the votes on Mailliw starting with Clanky didn't have too much reasoning behind them, but the next two were from people confirmed to be good, so I blame Clanky the most for that lynch happening the way it did. Edit: Vote Color and crossed out incorrect stuff
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    The Aether of Night and White Sands. Well, I didn't buy them, but I have copies now and I am excited to read them.
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    Well, it seems we have our first eliminator. Now anyone squeamish about voting with shoddy reasoning can just go through things around Winter and Meta to find somebody to kill. I am a bit interested in one thing, and maybe I missed it, but shouldn't we have some sort of list of converts by now? Also, Wilson, I read your analysis from day 4 and found it interesting that you are connecting people being on 17th shard with people being present in the eliminator doc. I suspect that there are equal numbers of people that are on your list that simply had a tab open while AFK as there are people that read the thread while not logged in at all. I guess the whole concept of using info about who is online and when feels a bit funny, and although it is part of the game, I'm not quite sure what the connection you were trying to make is. Do you think you could clarify your intention from that post? Or was that bit more of an info dump?
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    Sorry for not really participating in discussion. Usually I am online with my iPad, but I recently got The Aether of Night and if I change out of the google docs app then I lose my place. So I am really the only one to blame. I guess I might as well put a vote on Winter, but perhaps later tonight I can get back on and see how all of the arguments for Meta's lynch are laid out. I am also a bit curious why Winter didn't try to get Meta killed. Everyone was all ready to lynch him, so his claims could have been faked to try and take a villager down with him. Of course, since Winter admitted her guilt this doesn't seem likely at all. I guess I see that Winter said she didn't think it was worth trying, so that is that. Still, you should have tried. It might have been fun!
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    Wow. A lot happened last cycle, and I didn't really have a chance to figure out what was going on with the lynch because graduation time is busy. Anyway, as far as I can tell, there are 3 reasons that Mailliw got lynched. Firstly, people didn't like his idea of trying to create a tie lynch in the middle of the day when we could still pick somebody as a group. Secondly, a lot of people emphasized that Mailliw was acting suspiciously in PMs. I can't really expound on that since I wasn't in any of them. And lastly, the Elantrians were trying to lynch zas, with what the village decided wasn't very good reasoning, so we needed a solid margin to stop vote manipulation. My vote was based solely on that last point, since I wasn't really up to speed on things. I want to look at the people that vote for Mailliw early on last cycle, because it seems like most of the discussion didn't amount to much after zas got mentioned, but people just voted for reason number 3. I will try and get back sometime soon but maybe not for another day, I'll have to see.
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    Pifferdoo. I guess with all of the vote manipulation in this game, another vote on Mailliw won't hurt.
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    Well, I guess that is a good reason to vote for these people. If they have time to send PMs then they should have time to play. Presumably, whoever had the pendant knows who they are, so that is some useful info that we could use in the lynch discussion. I'm not too sure about who to call out right now, although I can see pages 21 and 23, just not 22. I guess I will vote for Pifferdoo, who failed to respond yesterday to Meta calling him out. Since he must have used a PM, perhaps whoever communicated with him could give us an update there until Piff comes out himself. Also, I noted that Wilson responded to my post about the Gyorn yesterday. By now there have probably been three conversions. One of those people might now have seen the thread or their PM yet due to the website being down. However, the other two, if they are villagers or even if they are cultists, probably would have revealed in the thread if they could. It is quite possible that the Gyorn is only converting Elantrians so that we don't focus on him. I can see why a convert would be reluctant to reveal their conversion if they are also a lover. However, anyone that doesn't reveal their status now will be even more suspect when we do end up getting a list from somebody that isn't. I would also like to point out that, while somewhat helpful to the village, killing converts neither helps find the Gyorn nor is useful for hunting Cultists. I guess this is a decent post, and life is calling. I'll be back later.
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    I was first exposed through the Redwall series, which my older brother showed me in elementary school. I wasn't necesesarily looking for fantasy, but just something with a lot of pages, since I tended to read fast back then and skim past a lot of the details. Anyone that knows an elementary student without enough material to read should direct them towards Redwall, since there are well over twenty books by now (I think) and they very well designed for that age group through middle school and beyond.
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    I was wondering what the first fantasy book/series people have read that really got them into the genre. It could be as a child or something later in life that really drew your interest. I myself, being a young whippersnapper, got into fantasy around 10 years ago through the Redwall series by Brian Jacques. Basically, for those that haven't read it, the series is based around an abbey that is occupied by various animals, mostly rodents, that have to overcome various armies of rats, ferrets, foxes and the like that try and invade. There are also riddles, adventure and humor aplenty, and while they are targeted toward a younger audience, I still have fun going back and re-reading one or two every once and a while. Edit: Well, I guess I must be blind or something. The other thread about this is at the top of the page. Ignore my rambling and move on.
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    Well, if they are villagers, then their primary goal should be to help the village, rather than to survive. We need to find the Odiv and we can't do that without some info from the converts.
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    This doesn't really make sense. Kasimir already did an analysis on this, but right now there are three people being pulled out of the pool that the Gyorn needs to deal with every cycle. The lynch target, the cultist kill and his own conversion. If any of those overlap, then that is one fewer person on the list that the Gyorn can forget about. If the Gyorn does 5 conversions, the lynch hits 5 people and the cultists take out another 5, the number of people that the Gyorn has to deal with ranges from 15-20 (Based off of our starting numbers). 15 is when no converts are killed, and twenty is when they all die. So based on what we do, without ever factoring in the Odiv, we could buy ourselves multiple extra cycles by killing converts. Now I'm not saying that we should explicitly target them, but maybe the cultists could be kind enough to?
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    I'm not sure about lynching Wonko. It seems like, as an eliminator, he would not go inactive right after advocating for lynching the inactive players. I suspect that he is busy IRL, since otherwise he probably would have responded to having three votes. However, I'm not too sure about Jain either. Bringing up the lynch again at the start of the day isn't too strange, since the night and the day discussions don't usually have the same focus. I guess I don't feel super strongly about either of our suspects, but I would prefer to lynch Wonko right now of the two.
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    I actually do think it is interesting that the Eliminators tried to kill one of the people the village was looking at lynching, and then ended up taking another one of them down with the night kill. Anyway, as far as me not being lovers with Orlok, well, I'm just honest with my opinions. Even when I was an eliminator in the Shard game, I still took a position that felt honest to me; that the game would have been boring for non-eliminators. I'm not sure that any real lovers would act so overtly to protect each other, since as has been pointed out, it just gives the eliminators a two for one kill option.
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    Ok, so I guess that I can see the reasoning behind lynching an inactive last cycle. Especially the way it was done, it didn't get in the way of regular discussion. But that isn't something we can do every cycle. The lynch won't have much pressure if we just turn around and kill somebody that wasn't contributing. I still want to hear an argument from Wonko in his own words, so my vote is staying put. I also was impressed with the cycle one discussion but not so much right now. I guess we don't have anything new to talk about so far. I'll stop back in at least twenty times before the cycle ends, so expect to hear from me again.
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    I'm in agreement with Jain here. Not posting during the first cycle is a fairly common occurrence in Long Games. Just because somebody didn't claim to have IRL stuff going on doesn't mean that it couldn't be an issue. I'm not really sure what the point of tying the vote would be. The eliminators could just leave the vote alone and let the village kill somebody win vote manipulation and secret votes. The problem with relying on tie votes being manipulated is that the eliminators don't have to mess with anything. That leads to the same conclusion that Kas made; village type people shouldn't do vote manipulation if we are trying for a tie vote. So I will put a vote on Wonko, because the two of them could have had different reasons for trying to lynch an inactive and we should get that out in the open.
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    Well, Meta, the whole thing with you being spiked was supposed to get Wonko killed, not you. Wonko wasn't letting us use the Kandra doc to discuss helping the spiked, so I tried to plot with Feligon and Jain to kill him, but they didn't commit. Helping the spiked initially would have been the only way to get a Kandra only victory, which was what I was aiming for.
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    Well, that was more of an explanation for Kas, since he asked what made my vote different from yours. I really don't know who else to vote for, since I think that both Kas and Orlok were making legitimate arguments.
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    I would like to clarify that if my post was confusing, I usually have a hard time entering the discussion on Day 1. I was trying to get involved rather than to use a poke vote that probably wouldn't accomplish much. As for why my vote on Mek is different than the one he placed himself, my vote caused a tie while his had potential to lead to a lynch. Of course, now Mek is the only person with two votes, so he is up for being lynched. Here is my understanding of the discussion: Kas: Don't forget the Gyorn! Keep track of convert numbers. Orlok: The Gyorn isn't a major problem. Kas: I just said to keep track of numbers. (Explanation that makes sense) (vote on Orlok) Orlok: Ok, but I think the cultists are more urgent. Mek: Vote on Orlok. You are acting like you did in a game that you were an eliminator and you didn't respond in a helpful way to Kas. Orlok: More clarification, vote on Mek Me: I feel like Orlok and Kas are having a legitimate discussion and Mek's vote doesn't make sense under that context, vote on Mek Mek: My vote on Orlok is mostly based off of his actions in MR6 Orlok: More clarification Kas: Well, Orlok is still my biggest suspicion Orlok: People that are more inactive are likely to only address one of the two eliminator groups. Mek: My vote is the best I have right now a lynch is better than a no-lynch Orlok: You think I'm the Gyorn? Kas: Well, my vote isn't doing much, so I'll vote for Araris for clarification. I also suspect Phatt. So basically Kas and Orlok had a good discussion going, and then Mek stepped in with a vote, which confused Orlok and led to his vote, which in turn led Kas to be more suspicious. I feel like the whole discussion was based on misunderstandings of the points that I bolded. Anyway, it didn't really make sense for Mek to interfere, so my vote indicated both my suspicion of him and nullified the pressure that Mek's vote put on Orlok. As for you voting for me, at the point in time that I decided to join in the discussion, you and Orlok were the two big things. To participate, I really needed to choose a side. But I didn't suspect either of you two, since it seemed like you were getting some opinions that probably a lot of people have out in the open. I'm going to leave my vote where it lies for now.
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    @Orlok This is an American forum, so we don't spell color with a "u." Hopefully that helps. I'm not really sure what to make out of Kasimir's reaction to Orlok. It does seem a bit blown out of proportion, but then again we don't have too much to go off of here. One thing that we (and the cultists) should consider is that killing non-converts is more harmful to everyone than killing converts. This probably means that 1) Most converts probably won't want to reveal their identity and 2) Villager converts that have power over a kill like the pirate should target those amongst themselves when deciding between two equally likely targets. I guess that I have decided that I agree with Orlok's vote on Mckeedee. I think Kasimir was justified in voting for Orlok, since they were having a discussion about the importance of the different game mechanics. I think discussion about game mechanics usually makes up the meat of the earlier discussions in Long Games. The first two spiked in the last game were caught partly because of the sleeping mechanic. But I feel like Kasimir was looking more for a response than for other people to jump on his vote.
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    Well, since the day is over, I guess it doesn't hurt to say this, but I was really rooting for the spiked this game. I thought I could save Alvron by passing him off as a Kandra, and I gave the entire game info about Meta and his scan, and even almost got him killed! So in the end, I think I accomplished a full boat's worth of manipulation this game, even if I was about to get coinshotted or something by Meta.
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