Aether

I just don't see it. That "we" could just be a general "we humans(oid)s". There is no emphasis in the text. I doubt that surgebinding gives you Agelessness.

A second Seeker? Aether thought to himself. Well, I suppose there could be two of them, though the chances of it are rather slim. The scholar walked up to Beetle. The little boy had just announced his strange powers to the group of villagers who had been studying Aether's list. "So you too, claim to be a Seeker?" Aether sat down beside him and looked him in the eyes. "And what do you have to say about Edgar's similar claim?" EDIT: "Since we now have two who claims to be Seekers, and none of which have any reliable information to give, I guess we cannot count on a Seekers help to decide who to target." Aether paused, looking thoughtful for a few seconds. "I can only then go by my first method of identifying Spiked villagers, which was to suspect the more vocal ones. "And by that logic, I'd have to target either Darnam or Clancy. I'll vote for Darnam for now, since he is the one who is currently making the most cock-sure claims, though this might change as the day progresses. Besides, his skills as a mortician have proven to be less than useful up to this point." And with that, Aether turned towards the inn to get a drink. EDIT 2: Rescinded my vote as per my agreement with Darnam.

don't you mean "getting the stormlight scared out of her"? Pardon me. I am horrible! EDIT: Permit me to say: "lulz". I cannot believe this terrible pun gave me my most up-voted post ever. xD

How in the world did you conclude that Darkness' lackeys are Radiants?

Aether had always prided himself in his work as a scholar, and he felt that his particular talents would be of good use in this crisis. "I have here a tally of the final votes from yesterday," he declared to no particular person as he nailed his moderately sized piece of paper onto a wall in the town square: Grayv - 7 (Edgar, Aether, Clancy, Beetle, Quinn, Wilson, Mat) Mat - 3 (Maill, Gambles, Porridge, Edgar) Porridge - 1 (Kukri) Beetle - 1 (Dyring) Quinn - 1 (Jason) Kukri - 0 (Maill) Abstained from voting - 1 (Darnam, Porridge) The scholar then pulled out a much longer sheet and hung it up, next to the other one. "This list, on the other hand, maps the deliberation and voting, as well as any voiced suspicion and change of votes. It is all set up chronologically. Perhaps a closer study of these sequence events could help us identify who amongst us has fiendish motives.": Porridge voiced his suspicion of Aether and Edgar, but didn't vote.1 Kukri gave the first and only vote to Porridge.2 Maill voted Kukri, but later rescinded his vote.3 Gambles gave the first vote to Mat.4 Maill finally voted Mat.5 Edgar voted Mat, but later rescinded his vote.6 Porridge didn't want to vote.7 Quinn gave the first vote to Grayv.8 dyring gave the first and only vote to Beetle.9 Beetle voted Grayv.10 Wilson voted Grayv, though also suspicions of Mat. There's now a tie.11 Porridge broke the tie by finally voting for Mat.12 Edgar glued together the tie by voting for Grayv.13 Jason gave the first and only vote to Quinn.14 Clancy broke the tie (again) by voting Grayv.15 Aether voted Grayv.16 Mat voted Grayv.17 Darnam abstained from voting.18 Something might have been missed (especially voiced suspicions). If so, feel free to tell me, and I shall add them to my list. EDIT: Now, note that the five of us were voted for: Grayv, Mat, Porridge, Beetle and Quinn; and three more were suspected and/or voted for at some point: Aether, Edgedancer and Kukri. The villagers who are still alive and escaped suspicion are: Maill, Gambles, dyring, Wilson, Clancy and Darnam. Now, it is slightly strange that there were already three votes for Mat - a rather strong majority at this point - before anyone voted for Grayv, though I think this was because most of us was voting for RP reasons anyway. But what I find really suspicious is how much the votes swung in and out of a tie. Now, we know that Grayv was not spiked, and if we assume for a second that Mat is, this could indicate that his fellow Spiked villagers were trying to swing the vote away from him, which would implicate any one of at least Quinn, Beetle, Wilson (who made the tie), Edgar (who remade the tie) and Clancy (who broke the tie). I am excluding myself and Mat since I was voting with the majority at this point, and Mat because he would obviously not vote for himself. However, if we allow for the possibility that both Mat and Grayv were/are normal villagers, then this curious back and forth voting could be the result of either 1. random chance, which makes it impossible to determined who, if any, of the voters for them are Spiked, other than perhaps if they just left it to mob rule and preferred to vote for someone else - such as Kukri and dyring - just so sow dissent; or 2. they profited on the mob rule and voted both sides to sow confusion, which would make the tie creators and breakers - Wilson, Porridge, Edgar and Clancy - the most suspicious ones, though any of the original voters - Gambles and Quinn - could also be spiked. Truth is, you can find any number of reasons to vote for whomever at this point, which is why I find it more useful to look closer at the more outspoken and certain ones, or try to find out who's the Seeker(s) and use his(their) knowledge to locate the spiked ones. EDIT 2: Added rescinded and abstained votes to the first list. EDIT 2: Added a missing word.

@Darnam: Your logic seems sound, but it seems to me that you've forgotten to take some things into consideration: First of all, at that point we were focusing on just getting a majority vote for, well, anyone. Thus, once the votes shifted from Mat to Grayv, I hardly think any additional votes would be particularly suspicious. I myself came late to the show, and only really voted for Grayv to ensure that a majority vote couldn't be changed by a Soother or a Rioter. . Your argument rests on the premise that the Spiked would vote unanimously for someone, which quite frankly would be stupid, because they would then be in danger of being easily identified for exactly that reason. . Now, they might be forced into such a situation if the focus was on one of the spiked early on, and they needed to shift the majority, but no one really had anything else than our RP persona to go on at that point, so the chance of us randomly mobbing up against one of the spiked is less than targeting an innocent villager. And if we allow for the possibility of both Grayv and Mat both being normal villagers, then it would be smarter for the Spiked ones to spread the votes around, so as to not be easily identified. To sum up, I think it is likely that there is at least one or to spiked villagers in the group that voted for Grayv (and a further look into when and why they voted for him might help identify who they are), but I think the rest of them (and at least half of them if they are four) should have otherwise. That is, if they had any foresight at all. I'll edit in my suspicions once I've looked at the older posts again. @Edgar: Sometimes it is so bloody easy to over-analyse this. Yes, if we assume that you are innocent, then it could be wise of them to target Jason to make you look bad. But then again, you can easily make that exact argument to defuse any suspicion Jason's death might cast upon you. Assuming you are Spiked, it would be an ingenious move (and also rather useful) to kill the one who argued against you, and then make the argument that it would not make sense for you to do so, because it would so obviously look like you killed him to shut him up. ________________________________________________________________________________________________ Now, my point in bringing all this up is not to muddy the waters (though I think I have quite thoroughly managed to do so, despite my intentions), but to point exactly how difficult it is for the villagers in this game to successfully identify and guess who's who. Darnam's and Edgar's arguments both seem perfectly sound and possibly spot on, but there are flaws to them (though not obvious ones). In my experience, though you can successfully use deductive reasoning to correctly guess who's who, it is extremely difficult to do so. I myself think it is better to focus on psychology rather than logic in these cases. I've noticed that in games of Mafia/Werewolves (or Mistborn Elimination), the enemies usually keep a very high profile so that they can control the group mentality, or they keep a rather low one to avoid suspicion and detection altogether. The former is more easily identifiable, and in our case, the five most out-spoken players are (no particular order): Myself, Darnam, Clancy, Quinn and Edgedancer. I am not certain about that last one, since past Quinn, no one have had particularly long or frequent posts for the last 4 pages. EDIT: Added the line. . EDIT 2: Made a new post for the promised list and deliberation.

I am quite certain that WoB states that Atium has nothing to do with it. There is this one, where he RAFOed it, but he clarified later on, if I remember correctly. I shall see if I can't find the proper quote.

You made me fall off my chair!!!

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I had a slight suspicion. I just found it amusing EDIT: Kanskjakalan, that the

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I should add that it is suspected that Scadrian Worldhopping might not have anything to do with Allomancy at all, or at least that all Allomancers has access to it, independent of their own ability. How and why, we do not know, but the mere fact that Demoux shows up in tWoK proves there possibly is a way for him to get there without burning Atium. EDIT: I should also add that Feruchemists (or maybe also just normal Scadrians) would have access to it too: He later added that she is to be found in Warbreaker, but I cannot remember where that quote is to be found.

The tiger arose

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One time, when a Mistborn was going to a Dragonwasp Legion meeting, he saw a grey Shardbearer in a dark alley, brutally slitting open a gigantic watermelon with a rusty Sliver of Honor. So, of course, the Mistborn burned the watermelon, lighting the Shardbearer's cape on fire, blue flames concealing it from his view. . The Shardbearer turns into a duck, ripping open the cosmere, and seeing a locked door emitting dark shine and Stormlight. The Shardbearer ran to get his Blade, tripping over duck beaks that littered the ground, breaking his neck. . The Mistborn howled at a monkey's attacks on his Mistcloak. Thrashing and struggling, he broke free, hitting the door with a llama and a koloss head, breaking it into splintery bits. The door floated down the river and ended in a black shardpool. . Meanwhile, the Shardbearer thrashed on the floor and died. . A shadowy figure hopped out of the Cognitive Realm and into the river. The Shadowy figure glowed with dark light and quietly said, "Where is Hoid?" . The Mistborn answered, "Where isn't he?" . At the same time, the Cognitive Realm was torn asunder by a massive Voidbringer. It killed many sprens that tried to intervene. . His metals spent, and his Stormlight stolen by a small green larkin, the shadowy figure, named "DARKNESS" the Evil Librarian, began building an altar out of cheese! This brilliant choice made many Epics weep with tears From the smell of their weakness. . Ookla the Mok rebuilt the door with the most evil thing possible in the Cosmere. The opposing force was a rhino cross-bred with Hoid an 16 different aspects of Odium as well as 14 of Ruin. . Unfortunately, a Shade flew in right in the middle of the giant altar, crushing the brilliant and wet kandra cheese container which exploded, spraying lemonade all over his tattered remains - hitting the large hippopotamus that was really just begging to become a Knight Radiant that bonds with Deathspren - and kills a poor, innocent chull. He [the Shade] launched it into the sky, where it grew three heads without even considering that the Heralds were notoriously unimpressed with him. Jezrien yelled, "How dare you throw a chull, you skunk eater!" At that moment, Kaladin threw his chull-sized suit, and despite the fact that Amaram already had his head shaved, Kal recognized him. He signaled to Lopen to eviscerate Amaram. Unfortunately, that was the Horneater's plan, before he became a Knight Radiant. . "I'm so confused," Amaram said, scratching the behind of his Chull. "I wanted him to narftle the Garthok!" he said, collapsing on the roof of Kredik Shaw. A nearby inquisitor - spiked with bananas - made drinks for the dinner party, who were confused about why Kelsier was late for everything. They jumped into bizarro Shadesmare. Unfortunately, bizarro Jasnah was merrily playing with a bead. . The bead was the cognitive aspect of Shai's stamp, made to reopen the dor to the Dor. Suddenly, the Dor burst through the stamp. Then the Dor opened a door. It was the invincible door that the Dor dared to defy by skipping and singing about the Dor by the Doors. So many doors flew in out of the doors that the Dor and all the doors passed by the holy tiger the holy tiger (don't ask me. 'Twas the first think that popped into my head)

Welcome to the 17th Shard! And yes, this is a rather exiting time to join us. And don't be frightened if you feel daunted by all the theorycrafting and referencing to discussions long past. Just ask, and people are usually happy to link to the relevant material. Other than that, have fun!

I was going to argue that it could still relate to her health, but upon rereading it, that would be a tad redundant. I guess there is some logic to it. Lightsong mentions that they usually let the Returned have young breaths because older people's breaths aren't as... I can't remember the word he used, but I suppose you could say strong, or nutritious.

I love how several people in this Thread are now using "rah rah" as a word!

This, that might not be a reference to her innate investiture, but to her "spirit" in general. Much in the same way we would refer to someone cheery as one of "high spirit" or something. It is quite possible that it strictly speaking only describes her as having a strong or vivid personality, which is only linguistically associated with her breath.

Finally some new news! And what news this news is! Great news, I tell you!

and all the (I dare you! Double-dare you!) EDIT: Accidentally wrote "that" instead of "and".

Evidently not. But he might tonight, though, so keep your head low!

I actually like the collar. But this is much better. I second Galladon's opinion.

It should also be noted that Magic isn't really hereditary on Roshar. You can only attract surgebinding Spren through your actions, not from having the correct pedigree. Being a surgebinder/picking up a shardblade apparently had some effect on your spiritual DNA, but I am not sure it is correct to claim that it elevated your level of investiture, just that it changed your spiritweb, or even just changed how your innate investiture expressed itself.