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I didn't expect to find anything, but figured it was worth a shot! I'm going to keep looking in the books I haven't checked yet just in case. But yeah, I doubt there would be something that obvious.

I read that quote as a historical one. I think the intent of the question was "were there whole orders that were not human? I.e. Parshendi?", and Brandon confirms that they were all human. That doesn't speak to the future...

That was pretty cool! I'm not the only one who thinks that the Stormlight Archive would be best served by cartoons, a la "The Clone Wars" series, rather than by a live action anything right? I imagine it being easier to show the whole story in smaller cartoon snippets than trying to do a miniseries (SOIAF) or movie trilogy or something, and I would hate to see plotlines cut to get it live action.

with Special Guest lecturer Prof. Emeritus Nalan'Elin of the Roshar University, Skybreaker School of Law...

We have no idea how Nalan got Nightblood. Vasher may have brought it with him to Roshar and lost him once he got there. I tried doing some word searches from the "Swearing in Roshar" thread to see if any Rosharian worldhoppers slipped up that way, but couldn't find anything in: AoL, Warbreaker, or Shadows for Silence...

Interdisciplinary Studies: Art/Theater 600: Truth and Perception - Set & Costume design for Lightweaving; taught by Headmaster Hoid, and Prof. Shallan Davar

G is for Gold, U is for Urithiru, V is for Voidbringers, Z is for Zahael

i like this thought. I am re-reading WoR right now, and just read chapter 51, from Adolin's PoV following his and Shallan's date at the Highstorm viewing establishment. The chapter title is "Uncut Gems". While it may just refer to the uncut gems that Sadaes is wearing on his jacket, I'd like to think that it also references Adolin and his path towards the KR. He is uncut, rough still, though with time and effort he can be made into a beautiful gem of a Radiant

That is a great point! I would think at some point his mind would be unable to direct the healing and it would fall apart. I wonder how long that would take though. For some reason I was conflating Feruchemical gold compounding with Feruchemical atium compounding for storing age/youth. I think ideally you'd want or need both to be a really good immortal.

Breaths on Nalthis would seem to be the easiest method, just needs money. Otherwise hemalurgy to steal a/Feruchemical gold compounding would be the next "easiest"... if you know the right strike and bind points and were really capable of murdering someone to gain your own immortality. Gambling on becoming Elantrian doesn't seem great nor does trying to hold Stormlight to indefinitely slow the aging process.

Why would using their Divine Breath to Awaken be different than using it to heal? As far as we know, it is a single powerful breath. So if they use it for anything, they will die as it is what is keeping them alive.

Definitely RAFO'd both times it was asked: Personally, I'm going with heavy levels of investiture like a Returned. The question I have is, why don't they "glow" like someone with high levels of stormlight normally does? Returned glow unless they learn how to do "mental gymnastics", but none of the Heralds that we see are glowing in any meaningful way...

I like that idea Weiry. It has to be someone very prominent in Cosmere/Roshar history/myth to engender a name that someone more "commonly" born like Kaladin knows without having to think about. I have to assume that Reya is a someone of Cosmereic significance or they wouldn't name a star after her tear. Sky is almost always a divine realm in human mythology, and usually in myths dealing with star placement, it is deific level, certainly super/heroic level, people who are attributed actions that set stars in the sky. Not normal people, even kings or queens are attributed this kind of legacy. If she's not Cultivation and the tear isn't a result of Honor's death, then the Shardbearer on Ashyn is a great 2nd candidate. You want wild speculation? How about this? /Wild speculation on Based on that quote.. and something that bugs me about the scene in WoR where Kaladin names the Tear of Reya... how do they know that the "moving stars" are in fact starspren? Do they have telescopes? Did Windrunners in the past fall to space to investigate and pass that knowledge on? Or are those actually in fact Satellites, from "a world like ours"? Set in place by Khriss and associates after their Ashyn stint? By scientists from Ashyn to observe Roshar? /fun speculation off

So unfortunately for this thread, which I really liked, in a personalization to Shadows Beneath I asked "Is Reya Cultivation's name?" and this is the response I received...

Not sure who downvoted you DSC01, didn't seem worthy of a down vote to me, so have a balancing upvote! Odium is the most likely answer, he's not from Roshar originally, but is now in that system: There have only ever been 3 Shards on Roshar, so if it's not Odium, then it must be Cultivation that is now "broken" some how. Which I might buy... As to the Bondsmiths... there is suggestion that they bond "godspren", but those may be only mixes of Honor/Cultivation is different proportions (my favorite theory), which wouldn't impede them bonding even if Odium was the reigning broken one.

5) And sometimes I get murd'rous

I'm just trying to take the Occam's Razor view on this one, theories also don't become more likely because they're complicated. We only have 1 fairly confirmed instance of an Honorblade wielder and that person is a mortal (I guess 2 if you count while Kaladin is holding Szeth's blade at the end of WoR). Maybe Nalan is wielding his honorblade, but we don't get any special mentions of eye color in the Lift chapters, and given the level of darkness descriptors that Lift uses to describe him, if his eyes were glowing or light in opposition to the rest of his demeanor I would expect it to be mentioned. So, either he is not wielding his own honorblade, OR they don't affect Heralds in the same way. It may be that only mortal surgebinders eyes change. If Nalan's eyes are changed when drawing his blade, I suppose it would actually be the only color change that isn't to lighteyes since Smokestone is a glassy black stone The Heralds are immortal apart from their honorblades. Who knows how else they are different from mortals and how the bonds affect them? it could be that they already possess the right sDNA to access the surges and the Honorblades guide that somehow or magnify it, like the Mists snapping people who otherwise wouldn't. For Heralds, they may already have the right sDNA so ti does't need to overlay anything and therefore no eye color change. For mortals, it does. Brandon loves consistency, but there is still consistency in: "it affects mortals one way and heralds another", just 2 different consistencies. I'm not sure what Returned being stabbed by a sword has to do with consistency in the magic systems, Returned on Nalthis are different from Heralds and surgebinding on Roshar. Roshar and the magics are must more heavily invested than Awakening. A mortal on Roshar who is a surgebinder could survive a stab wound, but not a Returned on Nalthis (side note, I wonder about Vasher and his use of Stormlight related to Stormlight healing...), that has no bearing on whether a bonded Honorblade affects Heralds and mortals in the same way. You like your theory on this, I like mine, it's ok!

The two swords are described differently, end of WoK is a "six foot..." "spike", while the one Dalinar has bonded is "wider than most, almost cleaverlike..." The cleaverlike one both feels wrong to Dalinar, even in that chapter, and also screams when he does finally more fully bond with the Stormfather and summon it. While Kaladin has no problems holding/touching the Honorblade that Szeth dropped. I have to say that the most likely thing to me seems to be that he is indeed Taln, that Honorblades don't affect the eye color of immortal Heralds the same way they do normal humans, and that the blade he initially has is an honorblade, but not that which Dalinar eventually bonds in the Shattered Plains. I know that Brandon plays a lot of games in his writing, but this one doesn't seem all that complicated.

Can you imagine the devastation of Shardplate wearing Radiants riding Ryshadium with Shardbarding into combat as heavy cavalry?? Bonded spren formed into Shardlances... *shudder* at the carnage which would ensue from that first wave of attacks. Say good bye... pretty much anything but Thunderclasts!

I posted in another thread, but I think Endowment is great at reading the future and Nightblood is actually her long term plan for stopping Odium, though Vasher may have some role in it

interesting consequence possibility. Would it be free powers for all, or would the hemalurgic power ripped from someone's spiritweb "dissolve" like Shardplate does when re-grown from a piece? There is another thread positing that Shardplate is in fact a KR's spiritweb in physical form. If through feeding investiture into it, that is able to reform from a single piece while the rest dissolves, perhaps the portion stolen and stored in a hemalurgic spike would also suffer that fate?

All healing that we have seen thus far is cognitive to some degree, but with Shardblade wounds it is cutting the soul and that needs to be repaired to heal. I just don't know if a time delay makes that wound more permanent than others.

Agreed with the time issue. Vin had been dead for a relative while by the time that Saze got around to healing her body, Szeth was revived almost instantaneously. Makes me wonder about Kaladin and the seeming KR ability heal shardblade wounds. If they didn't have stormlight on them when they were wounded by a Shardblade, would the time delay cause prevent the soul from healing properly there? Kaladin healed immediately from his wound that Szeth gave him...

No where does it say that Syl hates Szeth's blade... I just re-red those sections. All she says is that "it's different", and she can't remember why. If she hated it, she wouldn't have told Kal to rush after it at the end in the storm either.

It's probably dangerous if you don't know what you're getting into, but if you're away, then it might be manageable... Could be the Seons/Skaze are the dangers in the Cognitive realm there with no Shard to reign them in? Like the difference between Exhaustion spren on Roshar, and the giant black bird-like figures in Shadesmar... maybe Seons/Skaze are similar to that and in the cognitive realm, non-bonded of either type are wild and dangerous.