Yumiya

I was assuming that it was part of whatever got Starling exiled 12 years ago, though rereading the relevant passage makes it less clear. -IotE ch 48 Does is clothing or hair style give us any clues?

For timeline purposes: -12 years Starling did the thing that got her exiled/bound and Nahz killed involving some individuals Starling refused to give up, presumably becoming Hoids apprentice shortly after. -5 years Sixth of Dusk: at this point Hoid had not been to the First of the Sun per WOB -2 years A Mawlish Prime Minister was assassinated but not by Chrysalis, who was brought aboard the Dynamic by Hoid -6 months Hoid abandoned the crew of the dynamic, Xisis installed Crow as Captain Then the events of the Isles of the Emberdark So events of Triss obviously before IoED and likely before Sixth of Dusk since Hoid was on the Dynamic . Telling of Triss after IoEd. So where does this land Yumi? Is the "vault " actually a ramen shop?

We know he spent time studying at first.

It did not bother me. I actually liked the melding of the two "worlds" back together. The setting existed for 1700 years, so there is still plenty of time to plan your own stories in.

Exactly what I was trying to get at. To split a spirit, it takes investiture. When the yoki-hijo does it, that power comes from the yoki-hijo, which is why Yumi feels drained afterwards. The machine cannot supply that power, so it takes it from the spirit, using the yellow band. Now that there is no machine and the spirits are choosing to be hion lines without any assistance from yoki-hijos, they are also using that yellow band to maintain their form, so still no yellow. Edit: At this point I think they are choosing the color scheme as that is what they are use to. They probably could choose to use a little of all three or a different pair if they wanted to. End Edit. They are not so much anchoring themselves to the viewers, as becoming the energy that powers the viewers.

The same way that spirits like rocks being stacked. They are attracted to the art in both, and agree to perform a service. The investiture is still coming from the spirits like it did when they were being pulled by the machine. The difference is that they agree to do this, so it does not trap them the same way the machine did. They could decide to stop being hion lines, but probably won't as long as the people of the planet keep making tv shows.

I actually lean towards 3. Three points of view (Yumi/Painter/Hoid). Three colors (cyan/magenta/missing yellow). Three is a Fibonacci number. Art has the rule of thirds. Humans, spirits and machines. etc

Given that Hoid's protections are triggered by the machine, turning him into a statue for years, I don't really think that is the case.

Or not just innate differences of the shards, but differences in the causes of death. Ie Virtuosity choose to splinter.

I believe that yellow plays a part in the magic of Komashi, and not just the UTol system as a whole. The whole tie to color theory and art as a whole is too strong to ignore, when art is a central theme of the book. Throw in the use on the final cover, while not proving anything, enhances the argument that yellow is present. If we take a look at how Hion Lines are produced, we can see a possible explanation. The machine is taking in investiture, or soul from spirits. During this process, it is creating lines of energy and powering itself. Two lines plus some power consumed. The lines are energy. So it would be reasonable to assume that the machine is splitting the investiture into three parts, consuming the yellow, and allowing the cyan and magenta lines to flow. This clearly hurts the spirits, though one would assume that having part of yourself used this way against your will would indeed cause pain. Now, when yoki-hijo do their art, they are attracting the spirits and asking for assistance. The spirits agree to help and so, don't experience pain. Nor are they trapped. Additionally, this is more effective than the mechanical version because part of the power does not have to be diverted to the machine. Interestingly, yoki-hijo have spirits split in two, but a third force is applied to the stones, the yoki-hijo, strengthening the idea that spirits have three parts. When the spirits recombine, the force holding the rocks in place also vanishes, suggesting that it returns to the spirit as a part of the original whole. So my theory is that, when yoki-hijos call spirits and makes requests, they supply some investiture to allow the change to take place. The spirit then turns the request into an Intent and split creating twin statues with the desired effect. The potential energy from that split is then applied to the stones, making them stable. When the machine summons spirits, it does not supply any investiture. The investiture is converted into three bands of energy (yellow, cyan and magenta), but the yellow is not seen, as it is used to make the conversion possible. This is also why there is no yellow band even after the machine is destroyed. Some spirits stay hion lines, but there is no yoki-hijo to supply investiture to make this possible, so some of the spirits investiture is used instead. Note that you do see yellow (sorta) when Yumi makes the light. It is a friendly orange and dark blue. There would be yellow in that orange. Notice that when you combine orange and blue lights, you get white light, or light made of all the colors, nothing left out.

Yumi comments on this a bit. The writting is familiar but not exact. It would probably be like us trying to read some very old English documents. Nigh impossible for the layman. Try if you are interested. Regardless, a lot has been lost from Yumi's time to Painter's time. Like what the sun is and how it looks. Or that the earth was very hot when spirits were simply living in the earth instead of existing as hion lines. Or what yoki-hijos are. It would be very plausable for the Sho-Del to have had contact with Komashi and Yumi never known (being super cloistered and rather young) and the nomads of the time forgetting about it (assuming they themselves ever knew) in the wake of the near end of the world.

Sort of, but not really. The language has shifted enough that Yumi could only communicate due to her Connection to Painter. The other nightmares, once human again, could not talk to those trying to tend to them.

I think Yumi IS special. She was not born special, but because she was chosen by her people, she became special. She has powers that others don't. Similar to how Knights Radiat are not born special, but become special when they are chosen by and then bonded to a spren.

I think a lot of Hrathen's and Fjordell politics and actions are primarily influenced by the remnants of Dominion. Though, Bavadin probably did have fingers in some of it, she did not create all of it.

We get one mention of Thanasmia in TotES. Who or what is Thanasmia? There is no other mention of a moon belonging to a named individual. At best, individual moons are referred to by their spore. Emerald Moon, Verdant Moon. Crimson Moon. Midnight Moon. Sometimes they are even referred to by an attribute. Moon of Veils. Moon of Mercy. Moon of Menace. Moon of Justice. Moon of Meanings. (Wonder if those align with specific seas...) I see a couple of options. It is simply the name of the moon, like Sel has a moon named Oem. It is the name of the Aether on the Midnight Moon, abscribed by the people of Lumar or adopted by the Aether itself. It is the name of the individual who created Lumar. I personally like the last one. Lumar feels manmade, created. Not natural or even shard made. It seems likely then that the creator of the planet would have a part of the inhabitant's mythos. Of all the cultures we have seen so far, the name itself feels Rosharan to me. So I think Thanasmia is a Rosharan worldhopper/refugee who created Lumar, potentially with use/information from the Moon Scepter (as there is other Sellish influence on the planet). I would love to hear everyone's theories and reasoning.

And to break his curse he has to successfully help the sorceress curse someone else, just like Charlie had bring Tress back to be cursed.

I doubt it was a kandra, doesn't seem to be their style. My guess is something entirely new that is more animal than sentient.

Metals are important in the Cosmere. In TotES, we see aether responding to metal in very pointed ways. In allomancy, iron is the Physical/External/Pulling metal where as steel is the Physical/External/Pushing metal. So, aether seems to react similarly to allomantic metals the way metals react to an allomancer burning the metal. Additionally, aethers are killed by silver. Silver is not an allomantic metal, at least not on its own. It has to be alloyed into Electrum to be used that way. I wonder what effect Gold or Electrum would have on aether. Same with other metals. Maybe Cadmium would let them grow slower and Bendalloy grow faster. Aluminum protects it from silver. Could Duralimum make it silver effect aether more powerfully? But we also see other allomantic metals and they seem to follow a similar theme, in cups. Pewter is the Physical/Internal/Pushing metal which increases physical abilities. The third cup Charlie sent Tress was a large pewter tankard. It made Tress, the girl from a little island stronger than a desperate pirate sprouter. It made Charlie the rat stronger than Lacy the cat. Not sure that is entirely coincidental.. Tin is the Physical/Internal/Pulling metal which increases the senses. The cup that Ulaam uses for Tress's tea is tin. It's description is pointedly related to the senses. (though the cup that Tress shares with Charlie at the start of the book seems rather normal, as does the tin cup the captain uses - though thinking on it the captain is a spore-eater and an uncanny good shot, maybe the tin helps her... passenger help her?). Bronze is the Mental/Internal/Pulling metal which allows the allomancer the ability to hear allomantic pulses. Ironically, the bronze cup in the story belonged to Fort, who cannot hear. Even more ironically, the conversation when Tress uses it the first time is about hearing and how Fort's board hears Tress's voice and translates it to the board. We also see silver rimmed cups, but that just seems a sensible precaution on a planet full of corrupted aethers. So, summerize. Aethers act like metals do in allomancy and there seems to be a theme with cups and their metals. Not sure if any of it is actually relevant.

Is that entirely true? I always assumed that Honorspren were completely of Honor and Cultivatiospren were completely of Cultivation, with the other higher spren being mixes of the two. We are told in Oathbringer Ch 108 by Notum that Note a lack of mention of Cultivation.

It might be as simple as Hoid being the sort of person to bond a Cryptic and be, well, cryptic and Honorsprens' dislike of Cryptics and lies in general.

Well, it also gained autonomy a new enemy, one that she armed with the most dangerous weapon, knowledge. Also, Scadrial started off the book with one mistborn, Hoid (if Scadrial could be said to have him). It ends the book with two, with the addition of Wax. That is a net positive...

Others have also mentioned that the secondary explotion could have caused the difference. Not exactly. He says: They might not know exactly how to make it. The kandra tried several times and it did not work. Wax tried, and thought he failed. Even now that he knows that he can burn other metals, he might not know exactly what caused it to work despite further experiments. (I kinda fancy that Whimsy interferred here, though that is very far fetched).

In TLM we learn a number of significant things. Autonomy plants seeds on worlds, for when she decides to move in. Moonlight, who is Shai from The Emperor's Soul, has met Autonomy. Moonlight hates Autonomy. Moonlight dislikes replication of art, an opinion tainted by her distaste for Autonomy. These things lead me to believe that The Emperor's Soul details Moonlight's first encounter with Autonomy, or the seed she planted there. In The Emperor's Soul, the main antagonists are the Heritage Faction. The Heritage Faction promote "Remembering" as an acceptable application of forging, that uses mass produced low-quality items to recreate historical pieces of art, something Shai is disdainful of. Leading the Heritage Faction is the Senior Arbiter Frava, a woman who wears gold robes and braids her hair with red and gold ribbons. Her name is probably derived from the word Fravashi, which Wikipedia claims could mean "one who has been selected (for exaltation)." Put together, I believe that the Heritage Faction is Sel's version of the Set and is Autonomy's seed on that planet. Frava is then Autonomy's agent if not potential avatar, like Telsin. Similarly, I think we see a seed on Roshar, in the form of the Iriali. We know they are not native to Roshar, nor did they migrate from Ashyn. They have gold skin (like some scary men of red and gold we see briefly). They travel from world to world and believe in The One. The One sounds much how Autonomy behaves, splitting into multiple individuals and experiencing different things. This religion is similar to the one that Arclo tells Lift about. Oddly, there is a section of stone above the amphitheater where he sat that was carved and painted gold and red.

I got a different impression from TLM. The only time Whimsy is mentioned is by Telsin. Could you elaborate on your interpretation? I personally have a theory about Whimsy that I will write up in a separate post at some point.

Granted. They are given to your worst enemy. I wish for it to be summer all year long.