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I wouldn't suspect anything malicious, but I admit that the choice is odd - mostly because there are better ones. Aon Aan ("truth," "fact") and Aon Ial ("helpfulness," "aid") both seem like better candidates than Aon Seo's "loyalty" or "service."
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Theory: Ati Created Scadrial to Purposefully Bind His Power
Argent replied to Subvisual Haze's topic in Mistborn
I like it. Only time will tell how true it is, but I would prefer it to be so. Furthermore, you could extend your idea by throwing Preservation in the mix - a power to keep Ruin's in check, in balance. -
Fair. I could argue that they don't need to turn into a fully grown chasmfiend (or a chasmfiend at all; we do know that these greatshells pupate, but not for how long, how many times, and into what), but at this point I would be stretching the plausibility of my original suggestion. I don't have all the answers. Hell, I probably don't have most of the answers, but I still believe that there is a connection between the chasmfiends and the Voidbringers - one that goes beyond Jasnah's "the artist probably depicted the scariest thing she knew of" explanation.
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I suppose my issue was with your original analogy, the concept of between-ness in the Spiritweb. This being said, I don't like your clarified version either, but not necessarily because I find inconsistencies with it. Or, rather, I don't like the way you are phrasing it, focusing too much (in my opinion) on the effects we observe, and not enough on the underlying causes of these dual-power side effects - which I believe to be simply the mixing of Investitures. My takeaway from all the "cracks" WoBs is that there exist conditions which will allow external Investiture to fill, to connect (Connect?) with a person's Spiritweb. I believe it is the mixing of those sources that causes side effects. Along similar lines, any person with too much power on their hands doesn't experience this is twofold. Some of them, like the Mistborn, don't have a second source of foreign Investiture in their Spiritweb, so there is no weird interaction there, and therefore no side effects. Others, like the Lord Ruler, who do have multiple sources of external Investiture filling in their Spiritweb, probably have so much of it, that any side effects are kind of just swept under the rug, overwhelmed by all the other, more pronounced effects. So it's not so much that I disagree with your idea, it's that I don't like the way you are approaching it.
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I still disagree. The presence of magic in an individual can still be described as "cracks in the Spiritweb" without the need for location. The Spiritweb, as we understand it at the moment, is the collection of all the Connections a person has made in their life, as they exist in the Spiritual Realm. Cracks, then, become just damage to the web. This makes sense to me. But cracks between the other cracks... No, I am not the customer for this theory. I can leave the thread and let you guys talk about it, and not reiterate the same points every time, but I doubt I can be convinced on this one.
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True, but we have seen only one voidform, and it is already dramatically different from the other, more... neutral ones. Who's the say what other powers the odiumspren can grant? I will admit that it's not the best theory out there. But I also don't think the conversation between Dalinar and Jasnah has fully served its purpose. Jasnah herself admits that it should probably not be taken literally, but I will insist that if there was no connection, Brandon wouldn't put it in. Unless it was a misdirection of some sorts, but since the idea is not explored any further, I don't think that's the case either.
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I don't like the whole "minor cracks between the major cracks" idea. It requires the concept of space, or location, to be applicable to the Spiritweb (can't have "between" if there is no space), and it being a Spiritual construct is independent of such things.
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I've been listening to the Graphic Audio adaptation of The Way of Kings, and a certain passage made me wonder about something. In Chapter 28: Decision, Dalinar talks with Jasnah over a spanreed. She, through Shallan, sends him a drawing he describes as such: To which Adolin adds this: The image is, of course, this one (I think?). Jasnah says that the "book describes this as a picture of a Voidbringer" and that "The book is a copy of a text originally written in the years before the Recreance. However, the illustrations are copied from another text, even older. In fact, some think that picture was drawn only two or three generations after the Heralds departed." Now, we know - or at least we think we know - that the Voidbringers are the Parshendi, or that the two are very closely related. It is possible that the Parshendi stormform and the Voidbringers are one and the same, or it is possible that stormform is merely one of the manifestation of the Voidbringers, which in turn are a collection of all of the Parshendi "voidforms" (as I call them). I believe I once saw a theory here that claimed that stormform is just a... predecessor of the true voidforms, of the true Voidbringers. Regardless, what I find interesting is that there exists a possibility that one of the Parshendi forms allows them to turn into something similar to chasmfiends, which is what the ancient artist was depicting there. In fact, I think it is also possible that the modern day chasmfiends are, in some way, descendents of some of the ancient Voidbringers! I would be very interested in finding out whether chasmfiends existed before Aharietiam, and whether Parshendi carry gemhearts, perhaps even emerald gemhearts. What do you think?
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2016-10-08 Utah Humanities Book Festival - Ogden, UT
Argent replied to WeiryWriter's topic in Events and Signings
I don't think you ever outgrow the nervousness I've gotten to the point where Brandon recognizes me as both somebody who attends his signings, and an Internet person (and matches the two), and I still get freeze sometimes. Not to mention that I too feel bad for making the people behind me wait. -
Fortunately, I confirmed this for you some time ago Source
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I've been thinking about this - whether two people who share the same powers would get the same perk. And I think not - or not exactly. I seem to recall a WoB about how all Lightweavers have mnemonic powers, but don't necessarily share Shallan's ability to capture perfect images in her mind. I know I am misremembering things (and maybe I'll search for the WoB in question), but to me this suggests that people who share powers get similar powers, but somehow interpreted by their own personality. So another Lightweaver might remember sounds perfectly, for example, while yet another might be able to, oh I don't know, put themselves in a perfect 3D recreation of a scene, VR-style.
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The malformed sentence? No. I guess I couldn't decide between "When people don't use Oxford commas" and "People who don't use Oxford commas"
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When people who don't use Oxford commas. When people use decimate, but mean devastate.
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Done with The Last Guardian. I definitely liked it better than the previous books in the series, though its plot and characters both continue to be somewhat... basic. Which is not necessarily a bad thing, it makes for a light read, but it kind of requires the reader to already be invested in the universe, otherwise there is little of interest. I am reading Of Blood and Honor now.
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Thank you for this, @Yata
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I am struggling with a similar problem, except between my home and work PCs. I don't think it logs me out every time, but it's definitely frequent enough for me to notice.
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Peter just confirmed that Vorin dates are written as YYYY-MM-WW-D (e.g. 1173-10-01-5). Can someone add that to the Roshar page?
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I vaguely recalled something about Stormlight and frost, but I couldn't remember the exact details. I'll think on it.
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I have two theories hypotheses: Moving between Realms, or possibly only when moving to the Physical, acts similarly to an endothermic reaction, i.e. it sucks energy from the environment, generating frost. Creating matter into the Physical Realm using magic generates frost, for whatever reason. To pick one or the other we need to decide how is it that Shardblades get manifested, where are they summoned from. If they reside in the Cognitive Realm, which I think would make sense, then it's probably the act of dragging them into the Physical that creates the frost. I suppose they could be in the Spiritual, but that feels weird to me for some reason. Alternatively, it's possible that Shardbearers create them on the fly, but this idea seems far less elegant to me. I think they are being summoned from Shadesmar (which is a good place for spren to be), and something about the transition covers their Physical "bodies" with frost. So in this light, I think Talenel's Cognitive Aspect may have escaped Braize through Shadesmar, and his reemerging into the Physical Realm, into the body of Taln, caused Taln to be covered in frost. But at this point we are stretching things a bit...
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Unless he rolled down a hill or something. Or unless Braize is not a barren wasteland and Taln had just escape through some forest there. I can acknowledge that it seems likely that Taln has traveled a long distance. I just think that the moisture on his muscles is mighty suspicious (I don't think it's sweat), and that makes it more likely that if he has, in fact, traveled a long distance, it wasn't on Roshar.
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This is a good point, His body being covered in moisture is very much what you would expect if he had recently materialized in a manner similar to how Shardblades materialize - covered in frost. I am very inclined to agree that he had materialized very close to Kholinar, and not long ago. Those are also fair points. He would be assumed to be Makabaki on Roshar. They are, I suspect, unusual in Alethkar, but not unheard of. I can't fully counter your argument, I kind of agree that it's unlikely - though not impossible - for a Makabaki to have been possessed so close to Kholinar... Unless the bodies, the vessels, also experience a physical change when the Herald takes over. If the Blades hold the Heralds' cognitive aspects, then we have seen at least one other case where a Cognitive entity changes a physical body - the Returned. The Divine Breaths are Splinters, and there is a strong argument to be made for all Splinters having a strong Cognitive aspect. So the transformation the Returned display as they are being endowed with a Divine Breath could be viewed as very similar to the change we propose people go through when they receive the of a "dead" Herald.
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Argent commented on David_Fonti's gallery image in Stormlight Archive Art
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Do you mean that you doubt a darkeyes from another kingdom is unlikely to emigrate to Alethkar? Maybe because you think darkeyes are treated especially poorly there? Because if that's the case, I don't know if I can agree. Alethkar is widely agreed to be one of the most prosperous kingdoms, with a fair number of darkeyes spanning all ten dahns. some of them even marrying to lighteyes. So no, I don't think Alethkar would be undesired by foreign darkeyes. Now, as far as Taln's description goes, I think the only odd thing about him is that he is really broad of shoulders and his skin is darker than the average Alethi. Things that could indicate that he is a foreigner, but they could also point to him being a well-tanned farmer. I like the latter theory a lot.
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So, we are thinking that the Honorblades might somehow host the Heralds (either their Cognitive or Spiritual aspect, or perhaps both), might somehow be the Heralds? And they simply use different bodies, different hosts, different vessels if you will, throughout the ages? I think there is a certain elegance to the theory (though it doesn't explain everything). It could explain: Why Taln, the man who shows up at the gates of Kholinar, speaks perfect Alethi. If he had been recently "possessed" by Talenel, he might still have enough of his own mind and knowledge to retain his control over modern Alethi. As time passes and Talenel's mind takes over, we start seeing Taln mutter in whatever ancient predecessor of Alethi Talenel knew. Why the Heralds who broke the Oathpact are growing... different. I would've said "insane" or "unstable," but we don't know enough about their condition. Presumably the Heralds, the original Heralds, were fully in control of their vessels at the time of Aharietiam, so by the time they abandoned their Blades, their personalities and knowledge were more or less fully in line with what we would expect from a Herald (which is why they don't appear to act strange then). Having spent millennia separated from their Blades, from their minds (or souls), could've had strange effects on them. The point above could also possibly explain why our prime candidate for Jezrien (the "have you seen me" drunk at Gavilar's party) seems extra unstable - his Blade, his mind, is being used by another. It could also possibly explain why Nale seems a little more stable, at least to me - he (likely) has his Blade. He doesn't feel insane, just... misguided. Not confused, not distracted, nothing that could suggest an impairment of the mind - he thinks clearly, just not how we would expect the Herald of Justice to think. What this theory doesn't explain is Damnation. Taln very clearly remembers fire, and chains, and sizzling flesh. Now, it's very much possible that those experiences are - were - being fabricated for his mind somehow, but they suggest a physical body. I wonder of Odium keeps a stockpile of bodies, of people, on Braize, and would normally just hand the Honorblades to them, forcing the Heralds' minds to inhibit the bodies, and then torturing them until the body dies. Or, alternatively, maybe Odium has the Heralds' original bodies, and uses them for torture. If all the Heralds returned to Damnation after a Desolation, Odium would have to give each one of them time to recover before he inflicted the next wave of torment, but with nine of them absent, he could've kept moving Talenel's mind from one to the next, effectively increasing the amount of torture he could inflict tenfold. This could certainly explain why Talenel feels betrayed by the others (as opposed to happy that they are avoiding torture), and why they feel bad for abandoning him and dropping their own burden on his shoulders. Yes, I think I like this theory. I've strayed into the land of largely baseless speculation, but all of this has a good - if convoluted - feel to it.
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Why Mistborn or Full Feruchemists did not have "mixing effects"?
Argent replied to Oversleep's question in Cosmere Q&A
I think we know that the steel bubble is just something he learned how to do because he is a savant. I thought it was his perk, but I think that was disproved.
