Tamriel Wolfsbaine

I was thinking on it. I feel like atium would straight up break your brain if you weren't getting help from some mental speed. Do any of the others give out mental speed? Electrum or gold? Did Malatium give mental speed? Or is it specific to atium? Is it specific to the combination of future and other people? I would imagine that malatium being an alloy of atium and gold would have to give some mental speed as well. Then on the atium topic there is the real possibility that atium itself is an alloy and we haven't even seen the base effects of the god metal. Back to tin compounding and gaining future sight. The sight of the future of everyone else in the world would break the brain without the mental speed but what about electrum? Would it not break the brain? If you paired tin compounding with zinc compounding via spikes or medallions with it would you be able to reach a nearly infinite atium burn? I feel like seeing your own future would be more mind melting (since it changes so frequently and there are so many shadows to see) than the single shadow of atium vs non atium. Why then does atium need the mental boost? If it is to be able to process the shadows when atium vs atium makes an explosion of shadows wouldn't Vins mind have melted away everytime she used electrum vs atium or was it that her enemies simply didn't have the sense to stop paying attention to many shadows dancing in their faces with their enhanced mental abilities?

I love the idea of being a super acrobat with A-pewter and F-iron. Tapping to double your weight then jumping and instantly storing down to nothing could launch you so far. Then just tap weight as you are landing to slow yourself down. A-pewter and F-zinc wouldn't be quite as broken as with F-steel but I think the zinc would bring you so much benefit outside of combat it would more than make up for being limited to a pewter enhanced person who can nearly instantly think through all of their enemies telegraphing in a conflict. Really honestly anything with A-pewter because I simply see no drawback to having that much added physical ability.

I won't lie this is the first time I have heard the term but I am super intrigued. I always thought atium simply enhanced the mental speed to be able to make up for seeing the future. This idea you have put forth makes me question that a bit. In my mind with senses granted by other metals being able to be stored in tin minds I figured that the future sight of atium could be compounded but not the enhanced ability to comprehend and use it. If atium does indeed just increase proprioception to allow you to process that then it could stand that a tin compounder with just a second of atium burn could then compound the full power of a seer nearly infinitely. Some have floated the idea that all God metals are able to be burned by all humans. (So this idea only stems from those sort of stray thoughts as well). It also makes me curious if this is part of the "sense of balance" that is enhanced by pewter. Seems like it is in an athletic ballpark. I always figured to copy the effects of a seer you would need to be able to have zinc boosted brain power plus the future sight. Perhaps tin can replicate it with just compounding.

I was going to mention the exact same thing. I am sure if I read era 2 as opposed to listening to it while driving hours and hours at a time through rural Wyoming Wayne may have come across different. The reader doing all the different accents for Wayne and the fact that sometimes I had to guess if it was him in a scene or not made it much more enjoyable. Waynes powerset I also happen to like more than any of the others. Given my admitted love for the magic system > the stories themselves I have no problem saying that any scene with Wayne and or kandra made the books worth reading. I felt like era 1 had so much flying through the sky with the mistcloak flapping behind the protagonist that with Wax that portion of era 2 sort of turned on my snooze button. We get it you push off of metal and fly. The only steel pushing scene that interested me at all this go around was in bands of mourning when the lady at that big social event was talking to Wax about the F iron effects on Allomantic steel. Even then I didn't care about the steel I just let my brain start jumping around at the possibilities of flying via jumps and weight manipulation with Allomantic pewter and Feruchemical iron. Thankfully these books all offer a little something something for most fantasy readers tastes.

I am looking for ideas of how someone born on scadrial is able to world hop? Does the ability stem from an allomantic or feruchemical power or is it just pure luck? I know certain metals allow you to see into the spiritual but would burning enough of one alter your body enough to pass into a different realm that would then allow you to world hop?

Its hard for me to truly think of a way I would prefer it be done. I don't want to sound as if I am unsatisfied. In fact the Scadrial books are some of my favorite books of all time. Just for world building and the magic system not necessarily the plots or characters. I feel for authors. Making a protagonist and an antagonist be on an even playing field is very hard. Then the questions arise of why this badguy hasn't already been defeated. The other side of that coin is making a badguy powerful and ruthless enough that now you risk readers having to accept that your protagonist just had a massive string of nat 20s rolled and the enemy had a few too many nat 1s. (I guess a more appropriate shoutout would be to say Vin rolled a pair of 5s and 8 nudges where the lord ruler forgot to put anything in his defense dice pool). It is a tricky spot to be in. I have long stopped looking at books for a realistic story arc where evil and good both have decent representation from the author. It just doesn't happen. Nor can it if you are an author who hopes to have a world become your living. Not many people are happy to pay to read about "He who shall not be named" murdering an 11 year old who has only had a years worth of wizard training... not many folks will keep investing in your stories if the stories were all about TLR sending out his inquisitors to lay waste to entire houses and ska populations. I personally would have a blast reading about TLRs struggles keeping Ruin locked away from ending all life on scadrial all the while having everyone on the planet hate him. TLR was the true tragic story. Have the scene played out from his point of view as this ska mistborn fights in the square and then kills your personally made death dealer. To read what was going through his head as a spear gets plunged into him.... especially after seeing the scene where the bands of mourning were used... everything being in slow motion. Rashek just allowing it to happen. The anticipation of yet another assassination attempt that he will allow to succeed but then tap his gold minds before he squishes the bug... the single symbol of hope... I loved in alloy of law when it showed from Miles point of view. The jumping off of the roof of the building knowing its going to hurt but not really caring anymore. The bones all breaking and mending just as quickly as he hits the ground. More stuff like that to prove that the badguy is still... a guy with a functioning brain that is capable of thought and full of motive. Thanos was the greatest badguy of the MCU because we truly saw all of his whos whats whens where's and whys. He was more than just the designated sparring partner for that installment of the storyline. Making a good heel is the hardest part of any story line. Making a hero people love is easy. Talk about their life and kids at home then throw the badguys after him and give some flare as he wins. Making a good badguy is hard. The inquisitors are some of the better badguys out there. Miles was a fine badguy but the Cett just falls a bit flat. Luckily I just love the magic system and the world. Brando Sando has be so locked into anything in Scadrial just because I want to learn more about the dang magic. It is my curiosity that he has captured. Sometimes that is even better than having a great story.

I actually really enjoy the tone of Era 2 as well. All of the kandra scenes are great and Wayne makes me smile all the time. I love the steampunk feel. But I will admit I have a huge bias towards scadrial. I am in love with the magic system. The kandra are some of my favorite monsters from any system as well... I just think certain aspects of the books fall a bit flat due to knowing our heroes are going to prevail. Which is a fine thing. But the heroes drawing on the mists or using bands that make them gods at the last minute every book is rough. As terrible of a person Straff Venture was imagine all of that setup training a mistborn son and alienating everyone in your life for power... then to have a scrawny girl decide that if she can watch your supernaturally enhanced assassin (with a dang god metal) move his eyes then she can beat him in combat where he supposedly is able to see any move she makes seconds in advance. I just figure if we could have seen the thought process on the other side it would have made things so much clearer. I will never let myself think that Vin actually beat the lord ruler. After seeing the bands of mourning with no infinite supply of atium, there is no way to convince me that even with the mists Vin could defeat the lord ruler without the lord ruler himself wanting to be rid of his responsibilities. Rashek must have been so tired of all of the ungrateful folks in Scadrial hating him. Even his allies and trusted nobles lived their entire lives in fear of him. That dude wanted to die. In a way thinking that actually makes me more happy with that scene than just Vin getting mists power upgrade to a temporary level 20 for boss fight and then once its over she returns to her level 4 rogue self.

Maybe this I am just a glutton for punishment but I wish more heroes died in these books. As much as I love the heroes and would be sad seeing any of them die (Kels death was so epic I am actually sad that he is doing his cognitive shadow whatever... let me man have his epic exit and be happy for it). I so wish for some red wedding scenes too but it is rough too. Sometimes plot armor is too thick and the heroes becoming ultra clever and finding that little trick to overcome the baddies that noone else has ever beat before is too much for me. All that said the way Miles gets defeated I thought was epic. It makes me smile when I think about the fact that our main protagonists couldn't do it. If one of them died I would have been sad but at the same time the victory would have felt oh so much better. Then again I always thought a cool movie would be shot from one persons point of view and then before the end of whatever conflict happens you see that character die... heck you don't even need to see the character die because as they die the credits start rolling. Completely unresolved story and just the end. It would be a totally rage inducing ending to a story but honestly to break up the endless plot armor I think it would be worth it.

Does chromium leech all metals regardless of being actively burnt? I thought I remember duralumin using up everything that was being used not everything in the stomach at once. Then again aluminum seemed to work on all metal no matter if it was being burned as well. I assume a nicroburst would be held to the same need for an active source to work as duralumin and I guess chromium could work against anything at all. My confusion with chromium is just where are the lines at all? I thought metal was just a catalyst for allomancy. Can a leecher touch a piece of steel in the world and burn it all away? Or does the steel only become leechable when it is in an allomamcers stomach? If that steel has to be accessible by a coinshot to be leechable then swallowing a bunch of metal as a feruchemist or surgebinder would do absolutely nothing to help in a fight against a leecher. It would just poison you. When we see a special cube get used why did it only burn away Wax's steel in his stomach and not rip a hole in the train cars ground? I just feel like aluminum, duralumin, chromium, and nicrosil all play by different rules and they all hurt my little brain.

Pretty much. Edit: I assume that the more difficult one would be sight. We know typically the enhancement from sight through allomancy is different than through feruchemy. But feruchemy can store allomantic senses so you should be able to compound the sight enhancements from A tin as well.

Wouldn't you be able to simply compound just the sense of feeling and hearing so that you didn't have to be constantly flaring A tin. The whole point of compounding is tin is that you get savantism levels of a specific sense via compounding and then you can just increase your other senses allomantically as normal. Really a tin savant gets to have every sense compounded and stored at such a high rate that they can selectively turn on and off at whatever level they want... whatever sense they want. You get all the benefits and very very little of the draw backs. Each metalmind is specific to a specific sense. Just ramp up the sense of touch to the point where you feel the air moving around you. That all said I think a portion of why Spook did well with that was because he was forced to set aside his reliance on eyesight. I bet storing sight most of the time to near blindness would actually allow your body to better comprehend and use the other senses anyway. So much of our processing power is wasted on sight that if you had other ways to know what was happening in the world it might be worth just learning to use them. Having daredevil hearing and spidey sense in one move with tin compounding.

I like the way you think. For such awesome metals I feel like we haven't even touched the tip of what is possible. I had thought similar things for the radiant vs mistborn argument. Take your 6 shooter or even better yet a heavy large caliber "kolos round" from a lever gun and unload out of the bubble then reposition yourself to line up each of those shots and slam them with added pushes to absolutely devastate even shardplate. I can't speak 100% about how tough shardplate is but I can speak for the punch that my 45-70 can pack and that is well within the realm of era 2 tech. Even looking at era 1 we see coins for use against enemies without armor. But theoretically you could toss a cannon ball or even a blacksmiths hammer outside of the speed bubble and then position yourself for a massive push. Plus to add to your thought (one I have asked myself as well) about overlapping the bubbles you could pulse a whole row of an enemies front lines. Imagine charging as a group at what appears to be a row of very stationary enemies only to suddenly be smacked with horrible nausea and then collided into by the next row of allies behind you. A quick pulse of cadmium could be a massive disruption against your enemies and like you said you have this awesome buffer zone where now your handful of coins tossed through the slider bubble can be lined up and further pushed on to further decimate the oncoming army. Drop both bubbles and retreat back a few paces only to throw both back up for round 2. My next question would just be about how a steel push would effect outside of a bubble. If you shoot a gun from inside the bubble to outside it doesn't lose any of its momentum. It just alters its course. But how does that interact with a steel push. Could you push on the object and once it makes its alteration stop pushing then drop the bubble and it continue its course with the same momentum you placed on it seconds before dropping your bubble? I feel like in my mind I always picture this follow through where you either get tossed or that object goes through your enemy and you stop thinking about its momentum and the backdrop you are shooting at. I don't actually think that object just falls after you stop pushing. Even in "flying" there is an arc where you stop pushing and your momentum carries you until either gravity or another push catches up to it.

I wanted to answer this question the same as StanLemon did however I believe my understanding of exactly what lerasium does may be a bit muddied. We are told a lerasium mistborn is more powerful than those mistborn who have had that genetic decay. Even with all of the tricks we see Wax use with steel he still has less raw power than a coinshot from Vin's time. Overtime would we see allomancy become more of a supportive role offering no truly gigantic boosts of power simply because it is being diluted so much? The way I picture investiture (right or wrong and happy to have my mind changed) is as a row of water tanks with a lock over the tap. People with abilities have the tanks associated with those abilities unlocked. A thug only has the ability to tap the pewter tank. A mistborn can tap all of them. Each tank also has a different sized tap, and the ability to control how much that tap will let out at once. Breeze demonstrated the importance of learning to control the amount of water from the tap to Vin when explaining how a subtle touch is often better for emotional allomancy. Duralumin and Nicrosil take any tank that is currently being tapped and make it and the tap totally vanish and the water all escapes at once (though I believe a WoB described it more as an instant infinite loop that happens causing everything to be released at once). Aluminum and chromium on the other hand appear to make the water disappear from every tank no matter if they are currently being tapped or not. Lerasium is simply the key that unlocks all of taps so you may use those tanks. As for the amount of water in each tank (or the amount of investiture given by each molecule of a metal) is different for a lerasium mistborn. I am myself a little bit confused by if your strength in allomancy is tied to the tap on the tank or the amount of water in said tank. If a gram of pewter for Vin is providing a liter of water and that waters maximum flow rate is a L/min then 5 grams of pewter could be used in 5 minutes. For Elend post lerasium does each gram of pewter provide the same liter that it does for vin but his tap is capable of doubling the flow rate allowing him to access all 5 grams of pewter in 2.5 minutes instead? Perhaps Lerasium works from both ends both allowing for each gram of metal to be more water and allow for a larger tap. In that case we could see Elend with those same 5 grams of pewter be able to produce 10liters in the 5 minutes at a 2l/min flow from the tank? Lerasium therefore only increases power based on how large the chunk of metal is. The tank is filled based on the amount of lersium you have and the amount of lerasium you burn directly impacts how the other tanks operate (size of tap). I would say stormlight would work in the same analogy only that the tank has a few leaks making it impossible to be as efficient. Feruchemy has perfect control over the tap but doesn't use water and instead uses sweat... they have to make it and store it but the tank can be emptied at whatever rate they so choose once it has any sweat in it at all.

We see pretty well the use of bendalloy in combat to isolate a target. But I have been curious on others thoughts for use of the bubbles in other ways. Seeing the reaction of characters when they pass through bubbles seems to be a huge missed opportunity with combat applications. Even just pulsing a bubble long enough for an opponent to cross into it seems to offer a few seconds of disorientation effects that could be used well to your advantage. I don't know if that would be more of an interuption to an enemy than having an attack at your mental by brass or zinc but it definately appears to be pretty distracting either way.

As far as tin feruchemy goes I am pretty sure that each tin mind is specific for each sense. So your ring that gives increases sight doesn't give increases smell or taste or hearing. A hand full of rings would be needed to have access to all of your senses. It has been thought that allomantic senses could hypothetically be stored as well. (Imagine being able to compound atiums future sight) I think the reason I see tin compounding as a work around is just because you could completely isolate the sense you want to enhance. That said being a feruchemical savant has its negative effects as well. Even if you got used to feeling the vibrations in the air and didn't have to compensate with head wraps to dull your other senses I still think having that sensitive of skin and feeling would cause you potentially more issues later down the road. Say an attack does finally land... its going to be excruciating. Granted you can start storing feeling and probably move past that but if you have made this new normal of having that sense heightened all the time I can see it suddenly being gone as a massive liability. There would definitely be some learning curve to get used to having those senses heightened so much. A ferring without access to compounding would spend so long feeling nothing and have a burst of feeling everything that would likely be more of a shock to their system. But a compounder has unlimited access to titrate up and down all the sensitivity they want long term. That will give them more than enough time and ability to get used to having enhanced senses one sense at a time without the others suffering for it. Not saying A pewter wouldn't be a welcome help for those flashbang moments but compounding will at least allow you to choose specific senses to enhance at once and not blow up your eardrum to be able to see further down the street.

I don't see why being an allomantic tin savant is a necessary part of this discussion. Allomantic senses can be stored in the tin minds and then compounded and pulled out at a rate that makes flaring tin a joke. Save tin for when you need the benefits from that (seeing through the mists) and then compound everything else. The real power of being a tin compounder is the fact that you can skip savantism and get all the benefits of feeling the air move like daredevil on steroids. You get to save on all of the negative traits of being so light sensitive that you have to keep yourself blindfolded and layers of earplugs. I had an idea for a tin compounding food critic. Not only do you write reviews of the foods but your sense of taste would be so refined and acute that you could be the greatest thief of secret recipes ever. Create the black market for award winning BBQ sauce secrets and make all the $$$.

I am a bit obsessed with the idea of playing a kandra and have a question about resources and influence. In the case of a kandra being contracted... or one that has spent ample time observing a person... how do you handle resources and influence for those kandra? If you are commanded to take control of a character who had great influence or had ample resources would you gain bonuses to those standings even though your kandra itself is just a contracted being who has no real like resources or influence in the area they are supposed to be involved in? Edit: For instance tensoon had no real putward resources or influences as a wolf hound but while being oreseur he has access to everything that the other kandra was using during their contract.

So anytime someone transfers something hemalurgically who didn't themself intend to do it and ruin is in the game it is assumed that he himself as a shard wanted it to happen so it happened? I mean you can't argue with the god of the cosmere saying that another god in his creation has that power. I'm trying to wrap my head around it a bit still. Was the person stabbing spook under ruins influence via hemalurgy or is this truly just a case of "It is cause I said it is." Nothing wrong either way I just don't know if I missed a hint in the book.

A quick question about hemalurgy and intent here... How big of a deal does intent play in hemalurgy? I think I remember that spook became a pewterarm just by being shish kabobed on a sword with a pewterarm who died and the sword broke off inside spooks body. Where does intent play in this scenario that took spook from daredevil status to dang spiderman strength and reflexes? Feel free to correct my memory of how spook got his spike if I am incorrect and there was an intent to steal the pewterarms power.

We know that kandra can gain access to feruchemy and allomancy via spikes like anyone else. It could be assumed then that kandra could gain access to the ability to compound as well (whether they would be allowed to by their all controlling harmony is a different question). In the case of Iron feruchemy usually the metalminds and clothing or other equipment are the limiting factor on how light a person can make themselves. Storing into iron takes away the weight of your bones and all of the organic mass to a person. But what is a person? We are told and shown that investiture is tightly woven in with a persons spirit and how they view themselves. The ability to heal from old ailments for instance is mentioned to be tied to how that person viewed themselves all the way down to a spiritual level. How do kandra view themselves? If you are carrying another person's bones would that weight be storable for a kandra into iron? Would their true bodies be weight that got stored or not? If a person loses a leg as a child and then suddenly gains the ability to burn a gold metalmind or use regrowth may not have access to grow that piece of them back... does that self identification work both ways? If your iron compounding kandra with a true body made of iron bones were to store all of their weight into their bones would they be just storing the weight of the goo or the weight of all of the iron true body as well? I would also be curious if their kandra then wanted to go and replace random person X and they have to give up their iron true body would they be able to store the weight of a foreign set of bones into their metal minds?

There are such massive power swings in the cosmere it makes it really hard to put in perspective. Then the plot armor adds a much thicker cloud to our perception after that even. I will say Marsh in HoA was terrifying. If not for listening to his train of thought and him being a good guy in an ultra OP bad guy costume I definitely think he could make for one of the scariest if not the scariest bad guy out there. But the story stopped it from happening. As others have said though when your good guys aren't in true danger of dying off (my opinion is that this is what made GOT so great until even it took a turn towards the immortal main characters on screen at least when they rush ordered a shortened final season). A massive earthquake in South America being talked about on the news behind your main characters conversation at the pub in Ireland doesn't do much to make you scared of the earthquake that could have killed hundreds of thousands. Likewise, stories of ultra powerful villains doesn't do much when all of your characters with screen time get to escape unscathed. Thanos without the snap would have been just another pin for the avengers to bowl down. When he snapped and won the war he became a legendary villain. That said, no hate on any cool looking villain. I still would have liked to see even more of the final empire crew taken out by inquisitors. We got some really awesome fights between our mistborn and our inquisitors but between the mist being ready to get breathed in at the last second every time and the most juiced up inquisitor in that world secretly fighting for the good guys it is hard even then to see them as the threat that their powerlevel should have made them.

The thing that I have been curious about with this concept is the possibility of a feruchemist storing all of their identity and then "leeching" their metalminds. If you store identity does it allow you access to other peoples metal minds? Then if you had a steel mind on and they have a steel mind you could tap the other persons speed while storing as much as you tap into your own? I guess if you could tap their metalminds and store then that would be stealing their attributes. Even if you only had an aluminum mind and could touch someone else's metalmind you could tap everything from it all at once and try to drain it just through a massive burst of usage. I also am slightly confused by copperminds. Wouldnt you have to transfer memories from one to another or risk losing that memory?

I also have been thinking of the lord ruler vs Vin. I just can't make up my mind whether the lord ruler underestimated her so much that she was able to do what she did or if he simply was putting on a show and wanted to die anyways. Look at the generations of kandra. Half of them are willingly melting into nothingness at this point. Honestly the idea of immortality is better than the whole existing and watching lifetimes worth of friends and foes disappear off the face of the earth. The lord ruler had a job to do... keep the world held together after he mismanaged reforming it the last time. With my work taking care of patients who all seem so shocked that certain diseases are actually real (and some who accuse us of lying about it and perpetuating the lies of covids validity) I have seen a lot of providers give up and just look elsewhere for new work. I can't imagine the lord ruler found any joy in sitting on his throne surrounded by people who either hated him or were to scared to admit that they hated him. My ultimate theory is that the dude just didn't care anymore. I imagine his last breath being a sigh of relief from lifetimes of being hated and bored.

I do think bendalloy is a legitimate argument as far as the element of surprise goes but I don't see it as the counter that I think may be presented here. The mistborn can do nothing to the inquisitor outside of the bubble. Any projectiles would be slowed down in the inquisitors eyes the very moment they exit the bubble and will be far easier for the inquisitor to adjust and move in time than for the mistborn. If both parties are on different edges of the bubble the edge goes heavily to the inquisitor as they have much more time and chance to react to anything exiting the bubble after them. A handful of coins shot into the bubble is a complete roll of the dice for the mistborn as those projectiles may be slow moving until they hit the bubble but the moment they enter the bubble they take a different course and speed up significantly. Yes a handful of coins would become a shoving contest which the potential for F-iron from the inquisitor would make extremely risky as getting pushed out of the bendalloy bubble would pop said bubble and give the inquisitor the couple of seconds to react before the mistborn is able to put a bubble up again. All that and once an inquisitor enters the bubble his steel will again allow him ample time to move and react faster than the mistborn can consciously leech him. As an argument for the mistborn with the bendalloy or even cadmium (and something I have thought about as a potential combat use of these 2 metals) is that it is described as being very uncomfortable to move into and out of a bubble. I can definitely see a moment of hesitation as an inquisitor is moving across the bubble for the first time or even the second time where they would be caught so far off guard that if the mistborn were close enough to touch they would have an opportunity. If a 5 yard bubble allowed the inquisitor enough time to process that change he could still land a killing blow (and honestly it probably wouldn't take too long with their steel speed suddenly being as effective as it would have been minus a bubble anyway). I don't doubt it would end badly for both parties no matter what and we really don't know what powers each inquisitor had so it is all based on that. But Vin with era 2 metals still doesn't have access to F gold and F steel. An inquisitor with the minimum spikes allowable would more than likely lose. Every spike you add increases the inquisitors chances. Vin era 2 vs marsh from HoA would still end with marsh winning most of the time. We don't see Vin outright win a fight against an inquisitor without plot armor helping her anyway. I don't think leeching and bendalloy bubbles will change that against an inquisitor with F gold and F steel. She might be able to duralumin boost a leeching strike but likely she will be wiping more than just chromium when it happens and we really don't know enough about chromium to know how much of the metal it would take to wipe out reserves of feruchemal metal minds. How much metal does chromium use up to wipe out another metal? So far we have only seen it wipe out a single mistings reserves of metal. I don't know if a spec of chromium could instantly wipe out all investiture. If it were to work that way a single chromium charged cube would leave a group of shardplate wearers stuck inside massively heavy plate with no storm light to power it making 1 chromium cube the end of the mistborn vs radiant debate. I have a feeling that chromium leeching would take time to empty reserves. It may do it quickly but can it do it fast enough for Vin to leech out all the powers from an inquisitor??? Both the inquisitor and Vin are able to touch each other. We will give Vin the benefit of the doubt and say she gets to start leeching and attempting to dispatch the inquisitor. The inquisitor gets to start delivering his killing blows. Does Vin both leech all of the inquisotors metal minds and land a killing blow before the inquisitor lands one on her? What it both plunge a dagger into the others heart at the same time.... did the leeching hand get enough investiture wiped in time and was it lucky enough to leech away all F gold? The bubble is vins best shot but not because it negates the speed. Her best scenario would be to hope the bubble can disorient the inquisitor long enough for her to grab hold of the linchpin in that time. I don't see attempting to joust with leeching touches to be a winning strategy. Vin is so happy to test new ideas though I wouldn't be shocked to see her forgo grabbing the linchpin to instead try to leech the enemy.

F steel could allow an inquisitor their choice of vital organs to attack Vin with in the time she realizes she is able to leech let alone the seconds it could to drain all of their invested metal minds.