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Yeah but I don’t think vasher is a threat kelsier definitely is though, I also have to wonder what is kaladins future what makes kaladin so incredibly dangerous that he has a feedback loop in the spiritual realm the spear and fighting literally being engraved into his spirit web, the last character we saw with what appears to be anything similar was vin which I assume was insanely talented for the same reason, so what does that say about kaladins future considering he is at the moment probably the single best melee combatanted in the cosmere in terms of skill, plus after the most recent book with his weird instance of glowing eyes and speed that was super human even to other super humans Idk what he will become.

Yeah but idk how much for jasnah its like character interest I need to be here stuff, i feel like jasnah is more a personal project than a “I need to be here” thing like it is with kaladin and shallan who it seems like he has interacted with more than anyone else I believe he has done it three times meaningfully with both one for shallan was off screen i also think it significant kaladin asked him for a story

Who has good interacted with the most, as in like meaningful character moment interaction like his stories to kaladin not like him showing up as adolin and shallans carriage driver just because. because I feel like it’s probably kaladin or shallan thinking about it which to me I plus something important in their future.

This is wrong the windrunner resonance is more squires kaladin specifically has a special interaction with the bond and spiritual realm that seems similar to Vin basically because he would become a boss with the spear he always was talented with it.

I’m certain the girl who looked up is ash, in one instance where shallan tells the story the girls hair randomly turns white without her doing it, and ashes hair in herald images is shown to be white.

Oh yeah since humans would have to really practice the rhythms lightwesvers would be reslly helpful

Hmm, ultimately the counter though feels like just humming it’s opposite, but could humming the stormlight one make abilities stronger

Would it make like explosions and stuff?, and do the towns actually work to nullify stuff, then you can also refill stormlight by humming a stormlight tone?!

I didn’t think about that, would that work, and then I’d light and anti light annihilate each other, would you just have to play a storm light tone to nullify the anti-stormlight tone, is every battle gonna be done to music now in universe.

I imagine a lot of this actually has to do with honor being dead, since we know he put limitations in place on surgebinding, that could be why for example kaladin could do the shardplate armor on other people thing when we never saw that with the windrunner in Dalinar a vision because either it’s a rare ability or one the surgbinding limits didn’t allow, We know dalinar is potentially way more powerful for example than a normal bondsmith woudl have been because of this, so I don’t see why that wouldn’t affect other radiants, I also imagine it would affect most of all windrunners since they are close to bondsmiths. this could also by why we don’t hear about wlsecallers being warriors despite what jasnah can do, jasnah on top of being very good with her powers may be able to do more insane things with them because of the loss mutations being gone.

While anti storm light will probably stop healing I doubt it’ll kill radiants the way it kills fused, so yeah, but even then you have to get a good solid hit, kaladin for example in his fight with leshwi never took a hit solid enough for leshwi to drain stormlight which I’m assuming would also be the kind of hit that would allow them to inject antistromlight bqsically anti stormlight isn’t significantly better than their stormlight draining weapons against radiants both are basically a death sentence one just having a degree of overkill And yes hitting radiant spren would be very hard I imagine, they would have to locate the exact location then administer enough anti stormlight with a solid enough blow on what is depending on the type of spren an invisible shape hanging entity not bound to the laws of nature; like imagine a fused trying to hit syl while she is zipping around invisible, I imagine it could potentially hurt shardbaldes but I’m not sure since that’s a god metal not stormlight.

So previously we have been told things like a good solid hit to the spine with a shard blade or crushing the head of a radiant will kill them, we also knew that the abilities of radiants became far more efficient as they go up in ideals. in the opening of rythm of war we see kaladin have his spine severed over and over and over again, and he doesn’t just not die, he walks it off heals fast enough taht he can move between cuts and doesn’t use up all his stormlight. Up till now the best two feats of healing were crossbow bolt to the brain and being completely crushed though they second one may have been because of the fact that he has regrowth and a weird spren. On top of this kaladin is now fourth ideal making himself more efficient and presumably makes his healing better, this also makes me wonder how did the heralds ever really die, was taln in that last stand like crused by like 3 thunder lasts for a good 5 minutes just pounding away until he died?

I know where the term is from but it seems significant the fused refer to him by a title

So then maybe the question that needs to be asked is what will kaladin become in the future that gives him these insane powers, what in the future will allow him to deflect high storms, channel the power of what seemed to be the rythm of war to go into a super rage and probably take on heralds etc... i think cultivation has been setting many of the characters up to ascend as shards and that kaladin will become odium, honor, war, or more likely valor or he may become a herald like entity

So I’ve been wondering about fused titles, I assume all of them have these and that they are largely a function of that fact that each fused is a legendary hero of their people. so what are the titles of other fused we have met, what is leshwi’s title? and secondly stormblessed, that sounds like a fused title if I’ve ever heard one, does anyone else feel that it is significant that the fused even in the court of their highest authority refer to kaladin not by a name but by a title. What could that mean in the future for their interactions especially now that kaladin in the eyes of most people single handidly liberated urithiru

Coming up with all this I felt like a tinfoil hat crazy conspiracy theorist, lol yeah that one seemed the clearest one, though I’m not sure dalinar will become honor as opposed to kaladin. but I’m convinced jasnah is being manipulated.

He was left to make his own decisions but cultivation knew what he was gonna do, she has if I remember correctly some of the best future sight of the shards. the reason I think she has manipulated way more people is because she clearly has a large plan probably that extends to the greater cosmere, and with people like kaladin, shallan, etc... running around who could easily ruin her plans then why wouldn’t she do something to them, it doesn’t even have to be actual mental manipulation maybe she didn’t do anything to kaladin maybe it was to amaram for example. There are also lots of little things that would’ve explained a lot by cultivation’s manipulation and w elbow she is interfering with szeth in that at the very least she is responsible for him getting nightblood. for sja-anat well I don’t think she would consider herself a person in the same vein as those three and she has no reason to know of cultivation’s plan, but how did she break free from odium and why has every single corrupted sentient spren been a mistspren which is of an order tied to cultivation. also vasher, nightblood for whatever he got; I assume it’s the ability to use stormlight to keep himself alive isn’t a normal night watcher thing meaning cultivation is likely involved. also Taravangian isn’t possibly we know he met with cultivation not the nightwatched and wyndle asks why mother gave lift the ability she did and he isn’t a mistspren, the first one is 100% cannon the second one is like 95% certain. there isn’t any direct quotes but there are odd little things, like for example how kals eyes glowed yellow in row at one point. On top of the fact that people like kal are soemthing that surely would affect cultivation’s plan. Lots of little weird things make more sense the best example though is the childhood illness jasnah had that she says nobody seemed to remember, that sounds like cultivation’s influence to me. the thing that makes this make too much sense for me is when you start to consider none of the shard bearers properly fit their shards for example ati was a kind man and was given ruin, Rayse hates but he is too careful and calculating, etc... and so far we have one hard form the three manipulated by cultivation we have Taravangian who she conditioned to be able to control the extremes of emotions present in odium, if dalinar becomes honor we have someone who understands what happens when he isn’t there giving his all, if lift is gonna become cultivation then we have someone who understands wanting to remain the same these people are being conditioned to become the ultimate bearers of their shards, able to prevent the intent from controlling them. We can extend this to other characters like jasnah whT if jasnah becomes mercy and then we have a character who understands that mercy cannot always be granted.

Ah ok yeah I think there was some communication error there sorry.

Villains don’t mean evil people all the time, I don’t think cultivation is evil but I think she has been manipulating things behind the scenes extensively. On top of this odiums declaration that that roshar is a training ground sounds too much like a cultivation thing to not worry me a bit. On top of that her growth at all costs deal is scary when you consider what it could cause her to do, she could burn worlds or turn them into paradise depending on her mood. that on top of the fact that she could be manipulating everyone and we wouldn’t know for a long time. but the main reason is that what she said to Taravangian really rubbed me the wrong way like she had always planned for this and now had to introduce him to her full plans. Based on the scale of odium’s plans I doubt hers are limited to roshar either and rn the only thing we know is she seems to have made at least 1 presumably more since dalinar and lift may end up being honor and cultivation. On top of this her having hands on so many major players at the very least dalinar, lift, now odium, szeth or at least nightblood, and vasher let’s not forget, and those are only the ones we know of I find it hard to believe she planned only for them and doesn’t have a plan for kaladin or renarin or Aja-Anat, for all we know sja-Amat broke free of odium with her help and on top of this every corrupted radiant spren has been a mist spren of an order related to cultivation and window appears to have bonded lift against his will also related to cultivation. I do agree hoid isn’t a good guy, he doesn’t care about people he cares about his plan, he will probably betray the heroes at some point. also has anyone seriously considered adolin deadeye whispering could be from cultivation

Ok don’t remember that still I doubt that restares knew he was a radiant, additionally the timeline really doesn’t match up tien died who they thought was the only proto-radiant there like a year before that happened

Are we sure about that? It seems weird for restaries to have been in direct command of soemthing like that, it’s possible but I doubt it.

1. Why would kelak know that did I miss something 2. They didn’t seem to know of kaladin at all, then was killed like a year before amaram would have supposedly killed kaladin, which means they only knew about tien. what if cultivation is responsible for adolin weird deadeye whispering powers, maybe he is gonna be able to bring shattered shards back together

This is fair but kaladin seems to be a high profile example to have escaped notice, killed a shardbearer, and did a bunch of other stuff that wouldn’t have a escaped notice.

That actually covers a lot of the specifics about kaladins weird role, I hadn’t even considered that kaladin wasn’t known about by nale!

Cultivation in my opinion seems to be shaping up to maybe be the real villain of not just stormlight archives but the cosmere. she has manipulated to our knowledge three major characters all of which we knew had been touched by the night watcher. We know cultivation has good future sight and has been manipulating things a lot, and her plans judging by the end seems to keep going, additionally rayse calls roshar a testing ground which seems sounds very cultivationy. But that’s not the point so let’s lay out people who may have been manipulated known- Dalinar- whose role was to become a bondsmith and we don’t know after that maybe become honor? taravangian- role was to become odium and save the cosmere? lift- unknown but the pattern seems to suggest her becoming cultivation. likely- Jasnah- what broke her has been mentioned before as some kind of mental problems as a child but she describes it as “a childhood illness nobody remembers” which sounds to me like the work of cultivation. evie- I think it’s very possible that she was somehow manipulating evie maybe not in terms of a boon or memory snip but maybe just straight up giving her instructions while she meditated. szeth- I think szeth may very well have been manipulated by cultivation, we know she had nightblood and it’s quite possible nightblood is the manipulation or there may be more. He had to have been there for taravangain to become odium and she must have known that. sja-Anat- I think it almost certain cultivation has worked with sja-Anat and maybe is what enabled her to break from odium, by extension I think she is also manipulating renarin and all those with corrupted spren. possibly- Rysn- idk what role she could have but I think it possible that she could have manipulated her lots of event shave been prodding her and Changing her life. aesudan- a lot about her is unknown and odd but certainly seems possible venli- not sure what would have been done but venli seems uniquely able to resist forms influence and is always herself even more so then Eshonai, maybe she caused her mother’s memory loss. Idk but it seems possible. Unlikely- Gavilar- possibly did soemthing to him but no indication of anything weird going on with him that seems in any way to fit cultivation’s methods so far. navani- same as a with gavilar sadeas- doubt it nothing seems to fit there on the fence- shallan- I think it possible that shallans memory compartmentalizations could have been something caused or at least aided by cultivation I mainly think this because they conveniently start to drop at certain times causing problems where nothing seems to have triggered it. kaladin- ok hear me out on this, something is going on with kaladin, something that I don’t know the end of but there he has a role we don’t fully understand im certain of it. The things that have happened in Rythm of war especially in terms of his fighting process remind me a lot of vin who we know became a shard for a while. My evidence 1. child of tanavast- sure it means soemthing not sure what 2. those yellow eyes when he killed the pursuer- I think that it had to do with the strong emotions he was feeling and his bond to odium the full extent of which we may not understand, also when I learned that war light was the name of honor and odiums light together It made me think that kaladin is gonna take up the two shards and become war, idk if this is gonna happen or not though. 3. Kaladin is being set up as the next dalinar- kaladin especially in Rythm of war and especially relating to his leadership style and evolving role has been described very similarly to dalinar especially early on in the series, i doubt cultivation would start her plan without a back up and it strikes me depending on what happened to kaladin he could become honor or odium, especially if you manipulate some of his past events. 4. vin parallels- kaladin especially this book in fights has seemed to be very similar to vins miraculous skill, and while this was always the case now more then ever the best example Being how he defeated a fighter with 7000 years of experience while unarmed and an emotional wreck and doing it all so fast that everyone around could barely register what was happening, that’s not just stormlight that’s something else. so while I can’t prove and can’t offer any specifics on her manipulation of kaladin it just seems very odd that cultivation wouldn’t have a plan or want to control kaladin considering that he seems like he has somewhere to go in terms of the grand story. Insane- syl- why did syl go dormant after bonding a Knight, we get basic explanations but we never hear about this being a problem other times, she also seems decidedly more independent and even like she has actual neurological things going on with her like adhd, overall she is a very odd spren. On top of this she slumbered for a long time and was only rediscovered recently only to immediately bond the redo under of the order of windrunners seems convenient, coudl cultivation have been keeping her hidden and asleep? ok actually just thought of soemthing to make syl more plausible she says she heard a pure tone or note in relation to kaladin many people think this is tien but couldn’t it be cultivation? also everyone needs to start wearing aluminum hats. just had a thought they are all shards, maybe kaladin is valor, and ambition coudl be venli, etc...