Xerun

We haven’t seen him this book so far and I don’t believe he’s ever been to Urithiru (on screen). Last we saw he was atKholinar (for the entirety of Oathbringer in fact)

I feel like R’lain won’t bond Yunfah at all or any honorspren at all. Since reading chapter 15 I’ve been set on R’lain for Bondsmith to Nightwatcher. He’s spent a lot of time trying to unite everyone and gets annoyed when people compare him to the Fused. He also has good knowledge and connection to cultivation. as for Yunfah I feel like the Spren have set personalities so even with a complete mind wipe they need to find someone who shows honor that they instinctively know as honor. IMO Moash won’t ever bond an honorspren because he doesn’t show honor. Ultimately I think Yunfah will just go with one of the current squires.

As ruler I wouldn’t be on board with the slavery so I can’t imagine I’d have them as slaves. But with the knowledge the characters had at the time (a lot of Jasnah’s information coming from offhand stories) I’d most likely not believe it. If I did believe them I think I’d most likely exile them and make sure they were self sufficient but kept at a distance from the place i was in charge of.

In my head I’ve kind of seen the groupings as: Shallan & Adolin -> Lasting Integrity Kaladin & Lirin -> Surgeoning it up Dalinar & Navani & Venli -> Urithiru Assault and reviving the Sibling.

Sorry that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying part of the reason he is so down on himself all the time is because of the way his dad reacts to his choices. He’s not very understanding and outright dismisses Kal’s choices. And I think going to join his father and getting him to be more understanding will help him to manage it and not let it overwhelm him as often as it does now.

I reckon he goes to work with his father. Reading the preview chapters I’ve formed the belief that a lot of his depression comes from the way that his father doesn’t value his choices in life and I think he’ll have to deal with that.

Ok. Haven’t caught up with the topic. But definitely can see Rlain bonding the Nightwatcher after this chapter. He seems very intune with the planet and cultivating and also seems very keen on unity between Humans and Parsh and tends to get annoyed when people bring up topics that threaten that unity.

I believe it was in one of his YouTube live streams

They are Big Investiture.

So we know the following. Book 5 will be similar to The Final Empire and Books 6-10 will be on par with Well of Ascension & Hero of Ages in terms of story completion. We also know that Jasnah is intended for Book 10. so using this I just had a crazy thought that if we look at it that way, Odium is the Lord Ruler, so potentially destined to go down in book 5. And so my theory, book 5 ends with Odium being destroyed and everything wraps up with the war with the Fused no longer being able to be resurrected. Then in the epilogue we witness Gavilar as a Cognitive Shadow reforming the Shard and ascending. then book 10, Jasnah’s book, shows the flashbacks of her and her father, with the climaxing being her having to destroy him in order to save the world.

I imagine they originally had to use the Highstorms? And that the joining process worked similar to how it worked when we saw Eshonai join with the void Spren. the way I picture it. All 10 Heralds would return. They would train the Knights and Humans and when they were sufficiently accomplished, the Heralds would “Suicide” (magically choose to die) and would be returned to Braize. This would trigger the lock. Any Fused they had killed would remain there, any not killed would be locked once they returned. Towards the Last desolation when it was happening too quickly for training to happen satisfactorily, Ishar modified the Oathpact so that when 1 Herald died the lock started. During the WoK prelude I have to assume they considered this the final battle and once Taln died they killed off the Fused and then announced the war was over and then went into hiding.

So my current working theory is that Diagonarthis joined with Shallan as a child and she started the whole release of the void Spren. Formless is merely where she’s trapped the unmade. Now to clarify I have no idea of how DID works but to answer your questions: 1. I would imagine there would be gaps the others are not aware of. The memories and knowledge belong to Formless and not the 3. 2. Formless would not show itself while Adolin is around. Adolin wasn’t really apparent of Radiant or Veil until she showed them to him and then it was only through mutual agreement from each persona. 3. as above 4. Mraize seems to have always trusted Shallan once she proved herself even once he discovered she was a Knight Radiant. I imagine where Shallan seems distant and guarded Formless is more willing. 5. Hard to say without reading more of the chapters. I’ve been thinking lately that the Shallan we see is not the original Shallan and is infact the personality that won out. That perhaps originally she was at the 4th ideal and that that has backtracked to the 1st, with Shallan reswearing those Oaths again during the books. In my theory when she is Formless it’s more Diagonarthis taking control

To be fair, I don’t know that Mraize has ever lied. my craziest theory (and I one I barely even consider most of the time). Is that the Ghostbloods aren’t as bad as we think. We get such a negative view of them but that’s cause most of our information comes from Jasnah. But she loves an assassination more then anyone in the series.

My current theory is that Formless is Diagonarthis. She keeps referring to the secrets of her past as if they are far worse than killing both her father and mother. However Adolin and most of her friends know this already. So what can be worse than that? She indicates that even Pattern might leave her if he learns her secrets. I do somehow think she’s somehow bonded him accidentally as a child and that she’s caused the beginning of the desolations.

My immediate thought is Redin. He seemed like such an important character given he appeared twice and had a chapter dedicated to his condition that pointed it out. Perhaps his Heterochromia is from an experiment moving void light with Gavilar? Shallan would know him as he came to the Davar house asking for the Davar to turn on Lin. I don’t have too much to go on. But it did seem like he was an Honorable person and that is likely to get the Honor Spren to help hide him. But that part is pure conjecture

While this puts a bit of a dampener on my theory, I will just say finding them Unimpressive doesn’t mean he can’t be using them to achieve his own means. But yes that probably means it’s not him

See I can’t help but think that Hoid is Thaidakar. Now that we know their ultimate goal (and by ultimate goal I clearly mean we now one thing they are aiming for because that certainly can’t be their ultimate goal) it seems like it aligns with what Hoid wants most in the world. We know he bonded a Cryptic at the end of book 3. And we know that Mistborn Era 2 takes place after Stormlight 5. Since he is now bound to Roshar as of the end of Book 3 that gives him this book and the next to figure out a way to unbind himself from the planet. And if Mraize thinks he knows how, then so does his master. So in my mind it is possible that the master is someone who’s already admitted to Dalinar that they would happily let Roshar burn to achieve his goals.

Well this is a Rhythm of War spoiler board so it is fair game to say that they have. Saying that the Spren didn’t want to bond feels disingenuous. They saw no reason to prior to and during the events of book 1 & 2 but a few had started and that’s definitely changed with book 3. It’s not a coincidence that Spren startedrebonding at the same time. They knew it was time to begin again. we know we have an amount of at least 200ish Windrunners. We have at least 4 Lightweavers, 2 Edgedancers, 4 Truthwatchers, Skybreakers that have all appeared onscreen. So we know those are bonding humans and are not just one off outliers. Willshapers have been confirmed to not want to bond with Humans. Dustbringers we’ve only had one account but it’s likely they are against humans. Bondsmiths I’m going to have to disagree with you. You can’t force a bond on a Spren. The Stormfather didn’t want to. But he also did bond. And it’s ultimately the Sprens decision. We haven’t seen enough of the other two to know where they stand. and that just leaves Elsecallers and Stonewards. I think Ivory said he was the only one to bond, but that was during the Prologue of book 2 I think so there is room for more since then. But they have at least bonded one. Stonewards remain a complete mystery. But I feel ruling them out because the Spren flared at some humans is a bit much. But that’s 6 orders that have definitely bonded humans, 2 against and 2 unknown.

I think it’ll be a case by case basis. Granted we’ve not seen any deadeye’s return to life. But we have seen the groups of Spren and only the Dustbringers and Willshapers Spren descendants have decided to not bond humans. I think it quite likely that depending on a Sprens persona they would definitely be up for more bonds. That is unless the Spren also consciously chose to become Deadeyes during the Recreance.

I feel like it needs to be different. Brandon has said (IIRC) that it’s possible to revive a dead spren and that the easiest way would be to have the knight reswear the oaths as we saw with Kaladin. Somehow I feel Adolin swearing the Oath isn’t the way it’s done. That feels too easy in a way. I think he’ll need to do something special to revive Maya like interacting with her in the Cognitive realm or getting her stormlight. I don’t know I don’t feel I have a good theory for this. But I also feel it’s happening in book 4.

No way. You can’t kill off Adolin. I have no justification for this. It just won’t happen.

I think my biggest issue with it is that it’s so frequent and that it’s being compounded by the one chapter a week. I love the way Kaladin is written it’s very realistic and exactly what he would be going through. On the other hand, there have been about 4 chapters so far dedicated to Kaladin’s depression with no major change. And that can be tough to read when it’s the only chapter you get for a whole week. There isn’t any Cosmere changing revelations or huge intrigue to fuel discussion. I think once the book is out these chapters will seem nothing short of amazing because you can just immediately go to the next one. But currently it can get repetitive. Especially coming off the back of Shallan, Venli and Navani cliffhangers. On the plus side, if I’ve done my calculations correctly we have 7 chapters remaining and each character in theory should get a close to their Part 1 story with their Part 2 setup cliffhanger to fuel heaps of discussion. So I’m expecting 4 chapters dedicated to each of the characters for that coming in the next month

So after reading Chapter 10 I had a vision for an amazing scene. Kaladin theorizes that some of Bridge 4 are potentially ready to swear the Fourth Oath but are holding off because they all want Kaladin to be the first. We also know that by swearing the Fourth Oath they earn their Shardplate. So now imagine the future. Everyone is close to defeat. The Parshendi have them overrun and they can’t be beat. Kaladin internalizes and comes to term with the words. He swears the Oath. But then, seeing their Leader finally do it. All of Bridge 4 at the same time swears the oath exploding with light and emerging all equipped with Shardplate.

So the thing that gets me is that Shallan is hiding a secret, a secret she CANNOT reveal to herself. Now she has gone through some of her secrets already and we know she killed her mum and dad and that the remaining secrets are worse than those. We also know that a wave of violence and misery have been around her house that made her father and her mother act different and that in the past Brandon has hinted there might be some Unmade interference. We know her mother tried to kill her which we assume is for being a Radiant but we don’t know why. As far as I’m aware other than the Skybreakers no one else was trying to kill Radiants. so what if the secret is that Shallan has been possessed by Diagonarthis(spelling is a problem here). He drove the family to insanity and caused the mother to try kill Shallan. This made Shallans father terrified of her and always try placate her. Now he seemed concerned that Heleran threatened him with a Shardplate but was still willing to argue with him with Shallan he never did anything. So what if Formless is actually Diagonarthis. And when Shallan confronted Re’Sheppir it got scared of an Unmade or even more strength and ran away. I keep thinking back to the back of Way if Kings. We watch 4. They may save us one of them may certainly destroy us (quote may be wrong). Szeth Dalinar and Kaladin don’t look like the destroying type at this point. theory over haha

I mean the third line there “they put the interest of others ahead of their own” seems directly against his putting his own opinions of Kaladin ahead of Kaladins own desires. before the chapters we’ve seen I’d hve said that Lirin seemed Radiant bound. But now I think otherwise. I feel like this book is going to show a more negative side of Lirin that is a source of Kaladins depression. Getting to know his parents now that he’s seen as a hero and having his father constantly disappointed in him can’t be helping him.