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Okay so I was confused on whom to vote for but I just caught up and I have a suspect. Kas shouldn't die this cycle. I'm not sure if Illwei should either. Kas' vote on Mat is valid but it's also only one of the probably equally likely scenarios he's posted. Tani's retraction was.... weird. Araris would have the least villagery of the 4. But my suspect is... This whole post just sounds so odd. The bolded part, the whole thing about Illwei, not exactly committing to Illwei vote, and then only voting on Illwei to create a tie. Whole thing cares about not caring who dies. Post contains either obvious, or common consensus points. This is not a meta vote or if I think if he's Sja or likely to have been converted. It's a pure strong-gut vote that the post feels all kinds of wrong. Elkanah
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These? Again, all these points are under the assumption that Sja-anat is under some form of thread in D1. Each of the points are correct, so Sja-anat under the thread of suspicion, will most likely choose the convert path. But why are we assuming that Sja-anat is under some threat in D1. Why did you take that assumption? Also, why are you voting for Kas? We can clear or kill him mechanically.
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Hahahahaha, conventional elim play? I would have played this game as a serial killer xD Definitely made plans if I rolled Sja, I'd only use kills till I lost a life, and only then I'd start using converts :P. Sja doesn't have just these two options. Say no one suspects Sja D1. What then? It only has limited converts so it has to be judicious in using them. Say they prefer to go for roles over players. And even considering going after only suspected players, they don't just have to limit themselves to killing or converting players suspicious of them. Working off suspicion is not easy and quite simple to come off as fake. Dead players reads and posts are analysed. Third option would be to just.. leave the suspecting player alone [quite like what you did with me in LG80 :P]. Point is, even if optimal play seems like converting D1, there's a lot more factors to it, and it's fine if players prefer kill or convert. Okay Kas has a lot of points here to add, but the most important one, which I agree with him, is @Illwei why would you think consider cases when someone is supecting sja? Why only those particular cases sprang to your mind and your argued from that POV? Also, Illwei, @Azmine_king, @Tani and anyone else voting for Kas, we can easily find out if he's Sja by action economy. If he's sja, he's already trapped himself by claiming stormform. Anyone watches him taking an action and he's outed. So there's an easier way to find out without needing to vote out him. Edit: Uhhh, what do you mean by this? Especially 'the set is bigger than I thought'?
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Nah, this is blatant game-throwing and I really don't think Kas will this. Depends. If he is Sja-anat, he 'll have 3 charges after surviving the execution. So he can either convert 3 spren or 1 unmade + 1 spren. Depends on his preference if he likes numerical superiority or power.
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Ah gg lads. Village win is always fun to enjoy. @Archer, PM bias is a very real thing and when I heard you had changed your mind on Illwei after PMing her, my suspicion of her only increased :P. And @Illwei, also when you said if I were PMing you, I'd have found that you were village. No one utilizes PM bias to their advantage like you do, really.
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Smh, I was like 60% sure that I had caught a slip >> Your retraction was for my suspicion on you? Your highest trust was sleeping smh :P. Just saw your previous post now But yeah, screw it I'm going for stormspren!Kas/Sja!Kas gambit Kasimir Also, @xinoehp512 are you trying to prove you're not low-lying Sja by voting for yourself?
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Matrim's Dice You voted for me before Illwei's ISO or before Kas claimed stormspren. So v!stormspren!Kas and e!TJ is a lie because at the time you didn't know Kas was stormspren.
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Okay let's think about this - Kas elimination pros - Eats 2 charges if sja!Kas No villager dies if non-sja!Kas Future convertee doesn't get extra life of non-Sja!Kas No one can fake claim stormspren in the future because there's not likely to be more than one if non-Sja!Kas Cons - Lose the village double life if non-Sja!Kas Can't go wrong with that logic huh. I need more time to think, even though the con list just one thing, don't feel like deliberately voting for a villager smh I wasn't calling your play as elim, I meant more like if this how elim!you plays... it's interesting to watch things unfold :P.
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If this is Kas' elim play..... interesting..... xD
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now all that's left is for her to sing cheap trills :P.
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smh no she was just nice in RoW -.-
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Canonically canonicallyyyy xD
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smh when I typed up the post I was thinking particularly in terms of how I trusted Mat and Archer in the last game, i.e. based on post reads, obviously not in particular cases as someone instrumentally killing an elim. And yes, shifting reads is the name of the game, but... okay well I see your point. You're saying give top trusts reads and then notice changes if any to find suspicion. But normally, people (I don't include you smh, you paranoid read everyone till the end of the game :P) don't do that, they give top trust reads and barely change it during the game (at least after a trust tier is set). also smh don't call sja-anat some awful uppity spren lady shes nice smh
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Oi Kas, I never said not to prioritize suspicions smh, I said I feel it's better not to prioritize village reads, particularly mass village-reading a player/too top-trust reads could cause paranoias. So, prioritize evil/null reads, perfectly fine. Reads someone as majorly/pure village. Paranoia :P.
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Okay first things is to avoid paranoia about Sja converting our top trusts. So in order to avoid this, we do not give trust reads at all. Or at least we just say who we think is village without assigning any importance to how trusted they are. This is to avoid the case where we might end up trusting a player and then have to worry about Sja Anat converting that player and then us being paranoid of a trusted player in case they aren't actually converted. Another thing is quite meta which might devolve into IKYK situations. If we find one single elim, then we can actually kinda make a guess of who probably wanted them converted. Players close to each other, stuff like that. Now that I've said it, they might not use this tactic but still, IKYK :P. We need to remember that particular elim was converted for a reason and find that reason. I'm traveling rn, not sure if there's internet to sent this post, but more in the morning.
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No take backs smhh -.-
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Smh noooooo, think of it this way! You'd be such an obvious conversion that you won't be converted for the fear of being voted out!
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You've got your three Ash Hahahahaha, you bet half the players want to see you as elim so they'll definitely try to convert you xD
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Condensation @Araris Valerian, I reckon we'd be fine with a 24h day. Others can chime in if it's fine.
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Yeah, they need a location to Night kill.
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smh no wonder it's a 3 person team, it looks like they all have double roles. Child Coinshot and now Overseer Seeker. I guess @Chantara, you'll have to take a shot and try to guess Connie's location tonight as well.
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I'll sign up as well! Would be v busy till Tuesday if the game begins before that. @Kasimir, a conversion game seems right up your alley, what say? huehuehuehue :P.
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Heh, I took a shot in the dark like Chantara too. Illwei is a Seeker :P.
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Mat, I was getting the feeling that perhaps the elims were trying to get cred by bussing someone other than Devo cause she was the Coinshot and was thinking that they were bussing Chantara and Connie was an innocent village who got caught up in it. But then they had started the bus on Illwei already and the fact that Devo changed from Illwei to Chantara meant they either re-thought the bus or went for the hammer, and I also looked at this - Steel/Connie on the train opposite to Illwei. Chantara on Illwei again, that's twice in two cycles on close trains, so yeah I agree that it's Illwei/Connie. Not sure if there are more but the presence of Coinshot makes it likely that it's just 3. @Matrim's Dice, could you ask you roleblocker friend (obviously if they aren't Illwei/Connie :P) to block one of the them? We either block the kill or the location scan, though I think they've got the scans of two cycles (N2 and N3) with them which they haven't used if they didn't overlap with the ones who revealed their location. @Tani, could you protect Mat? I think he said he lives in Elariel? I swear smh at everyone telling me illwei was village -.-
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Um, @Matrim's Dice - did you ask them why they RB'd Squirrel and how their got his location?
