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So I think we were having the same conversation, but about 5 minutes slow. To be clearer, hopefully: It's true that Ventyl probably would've been NK'd if we had originally shrugged off his claim. But we didn't, and he was put up for lynch D1. I believe him to be village, and therefore believe he wasn't NK'd because he was a decently considered lynch target D1, and would be an easy mislynch for the elims D2.

I'VE FOUND IT! The inspiration for Alcatraz VS. the Evil Librarians!

Just look at the thread xD We're definitely focusing on Ventyl.

Yes, but the elims probably are leaving Ventyl alone hoping we’ll mislynch them. (Assuming village!Ventyl)

The only mention of Ventyl's name is the vote. Any specific posts of his that give that read? Also, whatever happened to the gut read against Gears D1?

See, this is VERY odd. Let's assume village!Gears. With the above statement, Gears is saying they would be perfectly fine with two mislynches in a row, knowing their own alignment. That makes no sense. I'm fairly certain that village!Gears would notice this, as in the QF they were quite observant. This is exactly why i'm suspicious of Gears. Edit: Quoting Mage I believe I have mentioned on several previous occasions that I think both Ventyl and TJ are village.

Didn't see my name among the tagged, I assumed it was directed to the inactives. I will now give my thoughts on the matter. This would makes sense, if you were village. But here is Striker's 'reasoning' for switching to you: Perhaps he thought that because of Ventyl's chaos he would have less to make a vote off of than you. He said the above reasons because they were what came to mind when preserving himself, and maybe Ventyl didn't have that much unique evidence against him. I'm less inclined to think of it as a preference, and more inclined to think it's just an elim voting for the easiest villager to vote on. That being said, if Gears flips village this cycle, I would Be VERY surprised Be perfectly fine with a Ventyl lynch D3 Edit: Anyone else find it odd that Gears put himself in his own lynch train plans?

If TJ has 'excellent reasoning', why is he your next lynch target?

I would like to here something from Silber. All he’s done is check in’s few times and say ‘wow that’s a lot of posts’. I’d like reads, or really anything. @Lord_Silberfarben

@Ashbringer, I’ll lessen my suspicions on you. But they’re not gone.

Why would it have been risky? Elim!Gears would’ve gone from a teammate being lynched to a 50% of a teammate being lynched. If I recall correctly he retracted before TJ claimed. Knowing that Striker would flip elim if lynched it would’ve been more risky for elim!Gears to switch to TJ in the last second.

By the vote count Straw gave at the beginning of N1, Gears did not vote.

As promised, here's my analysis-heavy post, of everyone semi-relevant to the lynch: Ventyl: I've already sort of talked about Ventyl in an above post. You can go read that if you want. Village Read. TJ Shade: This is where things are kind of weird, because I 100% believe both Ventyl and TJ are village. And they want to kill each other. TJ has stated multiple analysis posts, and long ones too, something i don't think an elimination would be as inclined to do. His reasoning why he is village is pretty darn sound to me, and I don't really understand the suspicions on him. Granted, the suspicions on him are from my elim list, so that might be why. Village Read. Gears: I reeeeally don't like how much they've been changing everything. C1 they were among the group who said they didn't want to lynch Ventyl. I don't see how anything changed to make his mind flip that much. I also don't like their forceful tone, shown here (Bold mine): This seems like an attempt to get two mislynches in a row, and I don't want to have it. As for the last point, that is in no way true. Elbereth has stated reads, done numerous multiquotes, and a whole bunch of other things that would make her a better infolynch, if that's what we want, then a lot of other people. They also said this: The Ventyl lynch probably would be beneficial. I believe yours has a higher chance of hitting an elim. If, however, Ventyl is lynched, i would definitely not go for TJ next. Gears is my strongest Eliminator Read. Elbereth: I would be 100% fine with an El lynch this cycle. While i don't have any concrete evidence against them (besides their push on me?) they have been backing up everyone else I suspect. Mild Eliminator Read. Ashbringer: Like El and Gears, I would be fine with an Ash lynch. Their insistence to know Ventyl's squiree is very strange, quoted here: that would not be acting in the Village's interest. It would be in the eliminator's interest because it would alert them who gained Radiant powers. Squiree, please do not claim. That should be obvious. Ash is another Eliminator Read. I'll reply again later tonight. @Orlok Tsubodai come help me Edit: Forgot to mention my elim team suspects. Ash, El, Gears and an inactive Windrunner, one of Xino or Fifth

I will send a long analysis post. But I'll say right now that my elim team prediction is: Striker, Gears, Ashbringer, Elbereth, and someone else. But like seriously, Ventyl literally Said- no, nearly asked- to be alignment scanned Roleclaimed as a Radiant, something I severely doubt an elimination would do Made some good points- such as a lot of people who said Ventyl was their best village suspect now pushing extremely hard for his lynch. TJ also I have no idea why they are a suspect. C'mon. Where's Orlok... I need backup Gears

As it turns out vacations include things like spontaneous swimming so I’ll be gone again. Promise I’ll read the thread and comment a long post within 6 hours

Makes sense Sart was killed as a universal village read. I’m going hiking so I won’t post for 2 plus hours. Analysis after that

I get it They repeated themselves in hope to find more puns.

I’ll try this, why not? I’ll be Dalinar. Also, if at all possible, I would like to have my round be after the 24th of July as I will probably be on mobile, on vacation, until then. Thanks!

My vote on Striker wasn’t just based on TJ. I would’ve been fine with a tie, though I preferred Striker over TJ so I voted Striker as my strongest elim suspect. I agree leaving Ventyl alone is the best idea for now. At this point, so many people have told him to stop claiming things that him letting a surge slip was most likely purposeful, either to get us to focus on him, or... I dunno. He wants us to talk about him. I can’t really see why village!Ventyl would care about that. If someone would alignment scan him, that would be appreciated.

If you’re gonna die anyway might as well give the village an extra surge. I don’t see why the person squired needs to verify. That would just tell the elims who the squire is. Ninja’d by TW who just said the same thing.

I’m starting to think it doesn’t matter what he tells us No one can possibly understand Ventyl.

At this point I trust TJ and Ventyl. It would be wicked if they were both elims who claimed as a strategy but I doubt it. Can someone not on mobile go through D1 and identify the bussiest vote on Striker, so we have a general idea of what to do next cycle?

I already said that

Yeah, someone with Progression should protect TJ. If he dies tonight we have a confirmed elim Gravitation.

Hey I was right about Striker! That greatly helps my D1 confidence. Thoughts to come once I future out how to access my notes on mobile but I do think this makes TJ more likely to be good. Edit: @Straw, are we told if someone is a Radiant when they die?