Halyo_Alex

I think the Kholinar pattern is the most surprising to me. It's such an oddly-patterned map, and yet sure enough, there's a real cymatic pattern for it!

Yes you're right. God I keep making typos like that. Ooh, How to Discover A New Aon 101: Tap Chromium

Personal hypothesis is that tapping F-Nicrosil (Fortune) would give you an intuition on what points do what with the spike you've got if your Intent is to spike someone with it for a specific outcome.

What if it's both?

Nice.

Yes, I made a typo. Thank you EDIT: anyway this whole idea is moot because you can't use the same single spike for multiple thefts of spiritweb, and even then, you couldn't possibly fit the... *checks notes* 50,000 Breaths needed for the 10th heightening inside one, or even a few spikes. You'd tear your own Spiritweb to shreds before you even got halfway there, easily. Besides, that means you have to actively murder 50,000 people, rather than gathering 50,000 breaths willingly, without murder. You horrible piece of scum.

(Feruchemical*) Precision may also be what you get out of the feruchemical tapping of bronze sense, yes. Hmm...

Sorry to break your spike there buddy but Breaths aren't hemalurgically attainable. Divine breaths, on the other hand, are "more physical" and so can be stolen with Hemalurgy. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/80/#e5282 and https://wob.coppermind.net/events/364/#e11389

take my upvote good sir!

Tell me about it. And I agree, you probably can't use a nicrosilmind as a "perfect" stormlight receptacle for example (one that won't leak). It may enhance the range you can sense pulses from, but perhaps. Would be interesting to ask Brandon on that one.

In addition (further spoilers):

This, I think, is what could allow a Duralumin compounder to masquerade as a Mistborn, realmatically speaking. By sustaining high Connection to Preservation, they might actually gain access to the remaining Allomantic metals. This might be how the Era 3 mistborn serial killer exists. Compounding Connection also allows the user to "build trust relationships incredibly easily". Sounds like the perfect trick for a serial killer who wants to remain subtle.

Hero of Ages = Bondsmith

Fair. But for regular Compounding, we DO need a new mechanism. Or rather an assumption. That assumption being that when the power stored in a metalmind meets the allomantic power coming through from it being burned, that the allomantic power changes and becomes the feruchemical one. At face value there is no real need for that to take place. So why not make it symmetrical and say that the allomantic power can be stored in the matching metal, creating an allomantic metalmind?

But storing A-Pewter's effect inside a pewtermind is EXACTLY what we're positing for Reverse Compounding, isn't it? So why can't that extend to other metals?

Brandon has said that a true artificial general intelligence would actually coalesce ambient investiture into some sort of Spiritweb. Machines will be people too, in a sense. ...Meaning you can spike a computer's memory and intelligence out and into a human with H-Copper. Oh I absolutely think that there will be some sort of class divergence (or whatever the technical term is) in Era 3. If I'm right about the F-Nicrosil/F-Aluminum medallions allowing unkeyed nicrosil to contain a charge of any metalborn power, then all you need to do is stick 32 layers of nicrosilminds with 32 layers of the allomantic/feruchemical metals (one for storing the feruchemical attribute and one for the allomantic one as per my Reverse Compounding theory) and then just one F-Nicrosil medallion and... Hey wait that just sounds like the Bands of Mourning! Oh. Oh dear. So yeah mass replicas of the Bands might become a thing, which would be TERRIFYING. Multiple people with access to all 32 powers simultaneously (for a time, but if they're that rich, they can presumably afford to get them recharged...).

Ooh yeah, lock him in a Catch-22. Or... would this be a Catch-16?

Yeah, also, you don't need to burn off the excess metals so that you don't get metal poisoning. You can store it up for later, potentially DAYS later.

I've been thinking a fair bit about what Era 3 could possibly reveal about the Metallic Arts. When I first read Era 2 and Era 1 (yes, you read that right, I was dumb), the metallic arts seemed pretty feature-complete... But now that I've gotten more knowledgeable about how Invested Arts tend to work, and stuff like what the underlying mechanics of Ettmetal and Medallions might be, I'm starting to wonder; what could Era 3 possibly add to this? My preferred potential candidate is, of course, Reverse Compounding, wherein a twinborn of the same metal can store allomantic power in their metalminds, to be extracted at a potentially greater (or more precise) rate than just sheer allomantic burn rate can manage (easily, without Duralumin, for example). Imagine if a Steel compounder not only had incredible amounts of speed to tap, but could also precisely and powerfully Push on metals, possibly even some (probably lightly) filled Metalminds to catch his opponents off guard. Granted, that may not seem as useful as "UNLIMITED POWERRRR" I mean physical speed. Another possibility is the reveal of power-sharing medallions. In theory, if F-Nicrosil works as I believe it does (at this point in time), then a Medallion granting F-Nicrosil and F-Aluminum would allow the user to store any other metalborn powers they have access to inside unkeyed nicrosil to be tapped by another nicrosil ferring. Oh wait, you've got a medallion that grants F-nicrosil right there, just let the recipient keep it while the freshly made unkeyed nicrosil has a charge! Now anyone can basically rent the power of a Coinshot, or a soother, or... a misting can have Duralumin allomancy... for a day. Maybe more, if they keep their rental going. Or someone could rent the paired metal of their power (the allomantic counterpart of their natural feruchemical metal, or vice-versa) and become a temporary Compounder. Let them keep that F-Nicrosil/F-Aluminum medallion and an Augur with a Bloodmaker's unkeyed nicrosil could create scores upon scores of unkeyed gold for injured or sick people to tap using a Gold feruchemy medallion (or an F-nicrosil medallion and unkeyed nicrosil with F-Gold inside). Another addition to Reverse Compounding could be Unkeyed Allomantic Metalminds, unkeyed, say, Steelminds filled with Steel allomancy. If you give that to someone with steel feruchemy (either by birth or by unkeyed nicrosil or whatever else), then they can be a "Feruchemical Coinshot" too. Just as a Steel misting could burn an unkeyed Steelmind filled with physical speed to become an "Allomantic Steelrunner". And I haven't even touched on Hemalurgy (because let's face it, Hemalurgy should not be touched upon). What sort of other reveals might Era 3 make for the Metallic Arts' synergistic behaviors or previously assumed rules?

Okay first, Pullforce got a giggle out of me because I'm a Zelda fan. But okay, so we're on the same page. The ironmind would have a reserve of Ironpulling power stored inside it, and when you tap it, it gives you the metalsight lines and you can pull on metal with the power you're extracting.

Hey, we're in agreement! I also think that reverse compounding is the ability to store allomantic power in the metalmind of the matching metal. I think there's one minor but key difference between us though? Are you implying that each ironpull would be stored... separately, or something? as opposed to having a "reservoir of ironpulling" that can be tapped and then directed at a specific piece of metal for as long as the charge remains. That would be the only difference, but it could just be phrasing.

Even if they don't reform, they could just become "large" spren, and have their own individual wills.

Yeah, that seems like the "obvious" endgame. ...Which of course means it's going to go absolutely NOTHING like that, and we'll get subverted in the best way possible.

Radiant shardblades can turn into shields.