Karger

To a degree maybe. I personally would say that Kaladin's arc in WoR is his Supreme Ordeal. He has to confront his enemies(in this case his physiological ones) and by learning the lesson they teach him is able to continue gaining his Reward(interestingly that moment is often called Seizing The Sword).

It seems Kaladin is at the "Road Way Back" or Regression stage of his Hero's journey. This is the point where the hero has made a lot of progress. They have entered the fantastical world, met their allies mentor, and enemies, overcome the threshold guardians and are finally something different then what they started out as. It is generally at this moment that something blows up. The Hero is not used to being a hero. They are not comfortable with the role and don't fully understand it. Because of this they generally try and go back to the person they were before. As Moash says. "I have to be who I was"(paraphrased). The problem with this as our Hero will discover is that they are not the same person they were. They have changed. They don't quite fit into their old role. They might try and make it work as the person that they used to be but they can't unlearn what they have learned. Their old role does not fit anymore. The person they used to be is gone. It is at this point where one of two things happens. The Hero reconciles who they were with who they are now. They learn from it and take the next step. They accept that they cannot return to being who they used to be and make peace with that. In doing so they start on the final ordeal. The purification. They take what they learned in the supernatural and apply it in some way to the physical. This is called the resurrection. It is generally the most dangerous part of our heroes journey.

I kept getting confused then I saw the message clipped at the bottom! I wonder how much of Syl's story was accurate. How could a bondsmith discover the Nahal bond? Arn't bondsmiths created by Nahal bonds?

Chapter 1 Elhokar is more of an idiot and Dalinar is considerably worse written. Also Elhokar is a total jerk. Way stupider as well. Chapter 2 What!!! Amaram is supposed to be smart in this version!??? Jasnah deems him a threat because of it and not because of his stupidity? Chapter 3 Chapter three needs... Work. Their interactions don't feel genuine. Dalinar is less of a person. Merin sounds cliche.

So we are going with the lessor spren theory. I suppose that is cool. It seems odd that Brandon would make it so obvious so early. Kaladin really needs to get his mojo back.

But that could easily include Odium.

WoKs Prime Reactions. I am going to post my reactions on my first read through. I do read fairly quickly but please no spoilers or implied spoilers.

Welcome! I have always wanted to have someone I know get a horrible face tattoo...

I realize that. I think they are all reasonable suppositions but it will be a while until we know. They might be but I don't like them. Involving more shards in roshar's history just feels like a cop out.

Seems to have.

You triple posted. Also ship it or rip it is a thing.

It is not but

While the concept has precedent in fantasy I don't really see how that works on Roshar. Two Windrunners both lashing is the same as one windrunner lashing using twice the amount of stormlight.

I agree that the causes are basically the same. My theory as to why is that neither spren nor returned have the "hardware" necessary for a corporal. In a realm of pure thought the idea of a person is enough. In a realm of matter you require matter to effectively generate a mind so when you try and make a body on the PR realm side you have a bit of lag(like with wifi) that makes using a mind difficult. Sorry if I am explaining badly. Basically the mind and body are in different realms and they are kind of out of sink with each other.

It is the most obvious one although of course there are other opinions. Linking their power to what? Each other? How does that help? Also how are the rhythms involved in that case? Eshonai was pretty clear on feeling instructions passed the rhythms. Dalinar opened a perpendicularity by just getting enough of Honor's investiture in one place. I am not sure how that relates to what the singers are doing.

Alright this is going to be a grand unifying theory(pun intended) so let us first lay out some things we know. We know that Adonalsium was a being of pure investiture that contained the power of all of the shards Adonalsium built Roshar with a specific purpose in mind. Odium feared what Dalinar was doing during his final confrontation during OB Odium stated that "WE KILLED YOU" in regards to what Dalinar was doing. Dalinar replied that "We are Unity!" in response to the asked question "What are you?" The everstorm is "a new thing, but old of design." Roshar is absolutely filled with investiture All three realms tend to be easier to access on Roshar Once we know that we can get down to theorizing. Figuring out what is happening. The bit that prompted me was Odium saying "WE KILLED YOU!" As far as we know he had no accomplices in his murder of honor. This has prompted a lot of theories but all of them involved either a fourth shard in the mix or Cultivation joining Odium against her partner. Neither of those really made much sense in the context of the stormlight archive(which is only supposed to be more local). The other half "We are Unity" indicates that Dalinar is claiming/invoking the power of Adonalsium but that did not make sense either as the being is shattered. What are his goals? This brings us to our next point. Adonalsium built Roshar with a specific purpose in mind. This begs the question. Why would a nigh all powerful being want to build anything? Let alone build something for a specific purpose? The only thing we actually know about Adonalsium is that he did like to build things. As such the only reasonable supposition I can make knowing Roshar has a purpose is that he built it to make building other things simpler. This assertion is supported by the fact that Roshar is a noticeably crowded system with three planets in the goldilocks zone and ten outside it. What this means Assuming my belief that Roshar was built to make building other things easier let is correct then the how and the why become somewhat deducible. As a being that exists in the spiritual realm Adonalsium would have a hard time accessing and understanding things from the cognitive and physical perspectives. To him concepts such as time, death, and pain were probably abstract. He existed in an state of ideals so pain was just a number to him. There is this amount of pain here. This would have lead to some difficulty if he wanted something specific to happen in the "real world." As such it would have been beneficial for him to have cognitive and physical agents to handle the small problems he would create every time he wanted to do something. On Roshar Adonalsium could direct the great spren directly and use the rhythms to have large number of singers build cities, alter the course of highstroms, and act as canaries looking for the fallout of his projects. A complex ecosystem supports a vast amount of investiture remaining free thus allowing easy communication between the SR headquarters and the PR workspace. If you want another gas giant but are worried about tidal strain just put it in see how distressed the singers get and if it is really bad they will tell you their problems(in song form!). Once they have explained their problem you can either create a spren to deal with it(this is where some of the great spren might come from) or give them instructions and the aid of an existing spren on how to deal with it using rhythm communications. If a singer or a group of them gets out of hand you can send a proto-unmade to hunt them down. If they need extra help housing a displaced population you can give them the strength to build a city(possibly an uncorrupted thrill acting a bit like coffee). This also explains why Adonalsium never bothered making Roshar viable long term. By the time the place no longer worked he would just be able to move on with another project. How the Everstorm The singers creating the everstorm is a baffling feet. A few thousand people with no special training manufacture a new storm that fundamentally transforms the way the entire world works and give sapience back to an entire race after two thousand years. This is a lot. The fact that they manage it indicates to me that Odium has co-opted some of Adonalsium 's old methods. He sent "instructions" for the storm through the rhythms possibly using one or more unmade as an intermediary. These instructions told the singers how to collect the free investiture of roshar in such a way that the everstorm could form. This may have been aimed specifically at the free odious investiture. Once the storm took form it gained a cognitive awareness that Odium shaped to allow him to control it better. Unity Among Odium's fears is being part of a greater whole. Despite repeated opportunities Odium has forgone taking up any additional power that would alter his intent. He can't stand to be changed into something better. When Dalinar opened his perpendicularity he connected with all of the investiture on Roshar. This investiture contained pieces from all sixteen shards including Odium himself. Odium was terrified that Dalinar understood him and embodied him at a higher level then he did himself. Given a winning singer population and enough time Dalinar could probably have made fundamental alterations to Roshar raising a third storm or quelling the first two. He could also have pulled Odium's investiture into the ecosystem making Odium himself serve the greater roshar. Odium would find this "weakening" of himself terrifying. Thanks for reading! Feedback is welcome!

Scorched earth might be difficult on Roshar. It rains pretty regularly and there is no dry season. Additionally it won't do much against the fused and your own army might need the supplies. Finally the people that would have less food will probably be the human slaves not any of the parshe.

Dark One is not yet available in my normal e-library so I am going to have to purchase it. I was wondering where people are getting their copies as I would like to examine pricing/compatibility vs wait times for it to be more available.

I personally loved Edgedancer. It shows the method to Lift's madness. It is still optional though if you have to quit you can.

Sazad did not swap out anything. Preservation wanted there to be 16 metals but pre industrial humans could not produce either cadmium or bendalloy so he "substituted" with atium and malatium. Neither metal was part of the base 16 at any point. The same might be true for seers. Considering that the potential for seers is in the population it eventually shoud produce a few even if they did not know it unless it was somehow bread out.

If they managed that I see no reason they could not scrounge up a few ounces or even cannibalize part of the sheath.

Finished edgedancer and liked it. He will be traveling now but plans on reading OB.

They managed enough to make Nightblood's sheath.

Sazed changed how snapping works

Some of the atium mistings must have survived and I see no reason they could not breed true...