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  1. No but the needle would only work as a spike so long as you leave it in there.
  2. This inspired me to make a whole new theory.
  3. Even a dictator does not rule alone. He requires people to enforce his rule. Kaladin is not a thug. He will not support a unjust regime if there is a better option and there always is. That seems rather far fetched. Much more of a Taravangian thing.
  4. That is not evident. This line Means what you think. Your limits are to some degree what you think they are. It does not mean that if you think your limits are less then they might become less.
  5. Logicspren are according to some associated with Elsecallers.
  6. She makes Kaladin happy. That is a purpose. Also by my theory delegation and trust will be Dalinar's next oath. Finally two people who respect each other like Kaladin and Dalinar should be able to cooperate even if they do not agree on literally everything. Things like banditry and warmongering are bad for example.
  7. Some people are like that in real life(the bastards).
  8. You might be able to spike out part of your identity or a curse from the Nightwatcher if you wanted although the side effects would be nasty. I suppose you could spike out an attribute use some method to covert the investiture and then spike it back in but that is a lot of work.
  9. I think it would be a bit more like aging really well.
  10. It does not have a release date anyway unless I missed something.
  11. Cultivation's Perpendicularities are fairly stable. I imagine that ardents would learn about them given how much information passes through them.
  12. Another point is that Wayne does not think being drunk is an impairment and is arguably crazy yet still gets healed from tapping gold. This means you need someone crazier then Wayne! That is definitely the kind of thing hemalurgy is good for.
  13. It might make some difference but to completely stop aging seems a bit much for "interpherence". You would probably need to do some major SR surgery to get that kind of effect.
  14. Lift would not keep quarantine. Elend would enjoy tracking and dealing with the disease in the most efficient way possible but at the same time be heartbroken over the suffering. Rock on the other hand would enjoy spending time cooking with his family. They would all gain at least 20 pounds as they worked on various culinary experiments.
  15. We think? But again we don't really know what is going on when you do so.
  16. We don't really know how you kill someone in the CR anyway. Sure stabbing seems to work but what exactly that means/actually does to you remains kind of a mystery.
  17. Some Horneaters can hear rhythms because of their high concentration of singer blood. Herdazians probably have less. Shards can sense basically everything and you are good on spoilers.
  18. She is generally considered a Dustbringer because during Theylen field in OB one of each order was there but we had two Lightweavers and no Dustbringers. Also Shallan has already had a book as a Lightweaver and every other order has a book with a flashback sequence corresponding to a member of their radiant order.
  19. Honor "not having great future sight" is like declaring someone to be "not very smart." The premise of my theory is that these are related and comparable. However I do agree that Devotion's future sight works best under the circumstances that her intent dominates people's decision making process. We don't actually know what Autonomy's intent is. Thanks for spotting that error though.
  20. But couldn't she anticipate events leading to our steaming from devotion(kind of like an old aunt claims to be able to predict marriage compatibility)?
  21. AHSOKA IS BACK AND SHE IS AWESOME! Seriously? No one else is exited about this?
  22. Karger

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  23. Great theory. Some counterpoints though. They did not do this with Shinovar. They left it attached to the Rosharan mainland. But what about the Greatshelled animal that lived(and possibly still lives) on Aimia and was destroyed during the island's destruction? That is a very uniquely Rosharan trait. Or just refugees from Aimia itself because it is now uninhabitable. So is Japanese in the real world iirc. Island peoples are like that. But they can survive highstorms if caught in the open either by healing or scattering and hiding under rocks. Decent points no real counter.
  24. @Dreamer recently posted this on an unrelated thread and it got me thinking. Why is it that any shard is considered to have "better" future sight then any other? Especially considering the different ways in which each shard's future sight seems to manifest. It is kind of like measuring intelligence via IQ. Intelligence does not manifest that simply. For example people with eidetic memories generally have a really hard time summarizing and neither skill has any bearing on social capabilities or abstract thinking. Similarly since future sight is probably accomplished differently by different shards they probably all have different strengths and weaknesses. Theorizing time. Let us start with what all shards can do. We know that simply by holding a lot of raw investiture you get massively expanded connection and processing power. As such I think that when it comes to predicting events that can be determined mathematically such as astronomical motions, weather patterns, or breeding cycles all shards are equally good. Basically in this case each shard is an almost infinite super computer with easy access to all the data needed to make a determination. However when we introduce individual humans into a model things get unpredictable pretty quickly. For this shards probably need to use the spiritual realm and when using it they probably make determinations based on their individual intents. In this each shard is different. Ambition. Ambition's intent is to work toward goals. As such she could probably see what people want and how they try and get there as well as the conditions under which her own goals could come to fruition. Problem is that most people don't make decisions based exclusively on what they want. What they fear, hate, and love are often more important factors. As such Ambition might have pretty good long term future sight with terrible mid to short range. That is she might be able to see the circumstances under which her goals are being realized but her "peripheral vision" sucks. To overcome her future sight all you really need to do is bring in some elements that make it look like she is wining and you can trap her pretty easily. Basically just play along and then slam her at the right moment(yeah she was a shard and that would be way more difficult then it sounds but if you are trying to outwit a shard then you are already taking some serious risks). As a side note I am willing to bet this is how Odium splintered her. We know that she damaged him during her fight but I think Odium let her get in a few good hits so that he could get her into position for a KO(this would be very like him). Dominion. We don't know much about him but Dominion's intent seems to have been to control things. As such he can probably see people who are controlling or easily controlled as well as the different effects that events have on each other. To him the future is probably most like the shattering window that Honor mentions which gives him decent mid range future sight. This person or change will likely cause a, b, or c eventfully after the short range randomness cancels out. A good way to outwit him might be to bring in some fairly random element(like another more emotionally inclined shard or just Hoid). Odium may have had an easier time splintering him because of the close proximity of Devotion who introduced more emotionally charged elements into their fighting. Devotion. We also don't know that much about Devotion but her intent seems to have been based on some kind of loyalty or even love. This indicates that her future sight could be much better when situations are fluid as people and events naturally move to where they feel most comfortable. To get around her you might need to introduce some kind of betrayal or treasonous behavior into the mix. Both behaviors tend to beget more of themselves because when you witness treasonous behavior you tend to get less trusting and Devotion might have a hard time anticipating this. By acting so unpredictably and aggressively Odium could have completely blindsided Devotion during his assault on Sel. The Dor. I see no reason Dor could not be used for future sight(it has been indicated that this has already been done). It seems possible that either or both shard's intents could be used. For example Wyrm probably knew about the possibility of Elantris being reestablished and tried to head them off but once events started getting more uncontrolled, emotional and random he lost any ideal of what was going on. If you use both on the other hand I don't think you get much future sight at all but rather a statement about the now kind of like how Sel is becoming sort of self aware. Endowment. Surprisingly little is known about the shard Endowment when you considering how long we have known her. From what we have learned of the vessel they seem to be a no nonsense sort but at the same time. Willingly to look at the good side of things. Her magic also increases the ability of people to see beauty. Returned also seem to return based on the optimistic hope of doing good rather then desire or strength of will. The possibility to create or see beauty now and at a latter date is quite central to her. As such I think Endowment has a good ability to see mid ranged futures. To defeat her simply motivate yourself based on the baser more destructive impulses. Thanks to her lack of opposition she probably has a very good ability to see the future and plan for more contingencies against mortals(same as any other shard). However both the manywar and her letter indicate that she underestimates how selfish and evil people can be. Ruin. Ruin has probably an unparalleled ability to predict the immediate future best scene through how atium works. Ruin's intent is basically to cause entropy in other words randomness in the immediate future. However Ruin is probably the easiest shard to blindside because as long as things are getting more random he can't actually see the overall pattern. This is how Preservation was able to put one over on him so many times. Preservation. Preservation remains the shard with one of the most interesting future sight portfolios that we have seen. He clearly has mastered the long game and deeply understands both the capabilities and limitations of his powers. However Vin was not able to anticipate actions while she held the power and Kelseir mostly used his own abilities as a former thief to predict events so the use of it to predict the immediate future appears to be limited. Blindsiding Preservation appears to be nearly impossible as the way he works his plans make it so that chance encounters or random events don't alter the outcome. For example the wars that consumed the entirety of Mistborn 3 did not matter one wit as long as the key players remained alive but how much of this was the vessel and how much was the shard seems difficult to say. To actually defeat Preservation at the future sight game I think your only option might be to just nuke the whole future. An asymmetric, random, and irrational attack on what is could probably break the stasis. Harmony. I think Harmony's future sight is actually underrated by a lot of people. Harmony's intent seems to be equilibrium. Saze wants things to be like the human body. Constantly changing on the micro scale yet contained within a structure that remains largely unchanged. Equilibrium is actually well understood by physical scientists particularly chemists and physicists. Both are introduced to the concept at the high school or undergraduate level(Simple harmonic motion and RICE tables). From his intent Harmony easily grasps both the "force" any occurrence has and the backlash against it. This means that any time a new variable is introduced Harmony can study it figure out what it will do and what the counteraction against it will be. This gives him a huge advantage on the immediate to mid range future sight predictions perhaps the best in the cosmere. To defeat him in this area you would probably have to introduce a large element he can't easily understand(I think this is what Trell is trying to do). Odium. Well known to be excellent at future sight Odium is the shard with the intent of hatred and the related emotions of fear and disgust. These emotions often do dominate a persons life although they can also fade over time. As such Odium is an impressive mid range predictor with some short range capabilities as well. Interestingly his actual relative strength at future sight might be overblown by the native Rosharans. While he clearly is a gifted strategic thinker Odium's track record has actually been rather poor of late. Collective hatred by one group for another makes them predictable even to humans. Hatred or fear from a single individual is dangerous to rely on although Odium has had more luck then might be expected with this. To defeat him "all" you have to do is find the people he is trying to corrupt and counter him with emotions that he is less experienced with (love, desire for growth, devotion to a set of ideals, loyalty to a cause or person). Cultivation. Cultivation is an interesting case. Her intent deals with how things grow and her future sight abilities seem to stem from there. This may have been how she out future sighted Odium during OB. She knew how Dalinar wanted to grow and change and what he could become if he did. Odium only really understood how Dalinar wanted to avoid the pain of the suffering he had caused. To put one past Cultivation you seem to need to not grow as a person but that makes you easily predictable for obvious reasons. This paradox might be the key to her success. You instead might have to allow some very emotional or random elements that she can't understand to dictate the planing or execution of any attempt to get around her. She also can through her intent see how one desires to grow and the steps that someone will take along that journey giving her perhaps the best all round future sight of any shard. Honor. Honor has personally claimed to be pretty bad at seeing the future. He is the shard of connection and bonds which do not immediately show any real aptitude for future sight prediction. However the visions that he shows Dalinar seem to imply some kind of conditions for victory. These may be connected to what a given individual would have to do to win(essentally he is trying to pull a Preservation). As such I think Honor actually might have some decent long distance future sight capabilities(although probably not at Preservation's level). Autonomy. Very little is known about this shard or her capabilities. She clearly has some future sight(all shards do) but we don't really know how it works. We also don't know much about her intent. I could see it manifesting as sort of the opposite of Honor IE these conditions make this situation impossible(which is why she hates outside shards so much) but we don't really know. Well that is all the shards(I hope). If anyone has any comments, disagreements or constructive criticism please post(even if it is just grammar or wording I would appreciate it as you will be making it easier for the next person who has to read the wall of text).
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