Ookla-son-son-Ventyl

I won’t be on at all during the next turn, because my band has to take a five hour drive to the State Marching competition. I’ll be here for D5, assuming I don’t die between now and then.

Fura

I’m continuing voting on you. Partially for gut reason along with my reason stated Day 2, and now with @Ookla the Mistiosa (Welcome to Shinovar by the way!) pointing out what seems like a Freudian Slip, my suspicions have only risen. If I can find the time in the next tomorrow I’ll give some analysis of Fura’s post and point out the ones that’ve rubbed me wrong. The analysis probably won’t be fully up to Ventyl standards becauses I have finals and the State Marching contest next week.

1 minute ago, Ookla Fell From The Sky said:

Battar's blade was essentially in limbo last turn, waiting to see if TJ's killer would claim it. Now, one way or another, a player holds it again.

Ishar's blade (and all other blades, iirc) has been in "circulation" the whole time, so to speak.

Ah, I see.

13 minutes ago, Ookla Fell From The Sky said:

Battar's Honorblade has been redistributed or claimed!

So, is any going to say something about this? Before Illwei’s death he claimed to be that Ishar’s Blade had been claimed, yet I don’t recall seeing this message. So, whoever told Illwei this was lying.

6 minutes ago, Eternum said:

....You know what. Sorry, Ash, Elandera.

Stink, if you want to lynch Quinn, I'm here for it.

In PMs, Quinn mentioned they may have information I don't, unless I know who killed TJ or who has Shalash's Blade (paraphrased).

See, I do know who killed TJ. And I do know it wasn't the elims. The problem is, how would Quinn know that?

I'm writing this fully expecting the response to be that they were jokingly wondering whether or not I knew which one the elim kill was, but in that case it wouldn't have been phrased as "who killed TJ", no? 

For those who are wondering if I'm willing to vote someone for what might be a genuine Freudian slip?

Yes. Yes I am.

Jester.

Quinn

I’m not sure if like this switch on to Quinn. I think basing your argument off of something that was a mistake is not great.

I’m honestly lost on to what is happening right now, I’ve been extremely busy this whole week with band. Next week I won’t be on Tuesday as my band is going to the State Marching contest.

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Anyways, I’d be open to lynching Fura today. I’ve stated my suspicions on them in a previous cycle. However, as Araris is open to lynching me, I’d be open to lynching them. They’ve continued to call me elim with little to no evidence, because iirc haven’t we determined it was most likely Ishar?

EDIT:

I mean most likely Ishar who adhesioned me. Also @Ookla Fell From The Sky, can we get a vote count?

4 minutes ago, Furamirionind said:

Aye!

We are on the same wave length.

4 minutes ago, Quinn0928 said:

I second this motion. 

1 minute ago, Ooklil' the Wei said:

All in favor?

Aye!

Well, this is interesting. I wasn’t on at rollover, due to band and homework, but I’ve read through the thread and I now have a lot more suspicion on Fura and Condensation for their extremely last minute switch on me.

7 hours ago, Ooklil' the Wei said:

Huh. see, the first thing I saw was Ventyl maybe trying to get a clear on connie from killing fura and him flipping vil. this doesn't...yeah I don't see a vote picking up on Fura so that makes a lot more sense. 

Sure hope not, but I'll fix that

Ventyl

okay waitaminit. name one game I've been in with Ventyl where I haven't voted on him D1 or 2. coolio.

I don’t like this... please give me mercy for once Illwei.

Recent events have given me a few reads:

Fura: Mainly for a continued push of Condensation, partly a gut read. Pushing Connie’s lynch seems a lot like the Elims pushing for a mislynch. 

Quinn: Slight Village, is defending Connie. Also hasn’t done anything that’s caught my eye as suspicious, though I could be missing something as Day One is still extremely confusing to me.

Condensation: Village, looks they’ve either been the target of a mislynch, that was then foiled by the Truthless. Considering the Truthless win-con is to die, which endangers the Stone Shaman, I’d considered them ‘on’ the elim team and indifferent to a village mislynch.

As I still really don’t have much of idea what’s even happening in this game, and I doubt I ever will due to the extremely long D1, all my suspicions are gut-reads only. And at this point I don’t have enough information to really make an actual good post describing why I read certain people as more elim. Hopefully I can try to tear apart day one soon. Yet again, I’m sorry that I probably won’t be as helpful in this game until the later cycles.

Hello. I’ve finally (not really) caught up with the thread after not being active for the first cycle due to band performances. I would very much like it if someone would PM giving me a summary of what happened. All I know is that Danex was Truthless and now the Stone Shamans can be killed, I think. 

Anyways, I need to go re-read the rules real quick, and I probably won’t have any reliable reads until D3, sorry!

I won’t be on until early tomorrow morning. I have to perform for marching band tonight, and almost all day tomorrow. I’ll be around for the end of the cycle though. So, don’t get too crazy without me!

I’ll sign up as, The Larkin.

27 minutes ago, TJ Shade said:

Hmmm, I still don't see a case where an elim roleblocker blocks an elim kill, and the main thing that set off my bells is you clearing me, which is what elims always do before killing me off, but now apparently the choice was Quinn's so.. I'll wait for a counterclaim. If there isn't one, then I'll think about it.  

EDIT:

Ventyl, this is super suspicious. You do know he'll survive the lynch as he could be Spiked right?

I’m aware that it’s suspicious, and no I wasn’t thinking about that...

29 minutes ago, Quinn0928 said:

Why would we lynch me? 

Either you’re being pocketed, or you and Gears are both elims trying to make some gambit.

EDIT:

Of course, I could be wrong and Gears is the Lord Ruler. In that case, I’d be less suspicious of both of you.

I think we lynch Gears, it’s probably the best lynch we have right now. Because, if he is telling the truth, then it’s fine, he’ll survive our lynch. And if he’s lying then we kill an elim, then we lynch Quinn next.

1 hour ago, Quinn0928 said:

Okay, I'm going to propose something. We all lynch Reading. Here's why:

- We can be reasonably certain that Reading is not TLR. And aside from that, in the only case where he *is* TLR (his killer was RBd), he still has two lives. So we won't kill TLR in that case anyway. If we try to lynch Reading and he survives, again, we will know an elim was RBd because you can't RB a lynch so Reading must still have had two lives. So that means Gears is elim, or that someone else RBd and isn't saying anything (at that point, RBers, you really *would* want to say something).

- If Reading is village, we can be almost certain that Gears is an elim, because Reading must have survived due to an RB.

- If Reading is elim, that means that Gears is village and that it was a WGG. 

This is the lynch that will give us the most information; no matter what, we will peg an elim. 

I suggested this last cycle, for the same reason... but Whysper makes good points. I would much prefer to lynch Gears directly to remove the risk of mislynching a villager or a village-aligned TLR. I’m not particularly good with PM’s, but I don’t want to lose them either. However, considering Quinn’s insistence on lynching Reading, it’s giving me a stronger villager read on them. I simply don’t think an elim would want to put themselves out there, like they are doing now.

I’m still hesitant to remove my vote from Danex, though. I don’t like the idea of letting the person who started this whole PM fiasco, which has done more bad than good in my opinion, live through this cycle. I don’t like how much they’ve stayed under the radar, even with three votes on them, there is little discussion about how suspicious their actions have been. If we lynch Danex here, I’ll be all for lynching Reading or Gears next cycle. If I don’t die that is...

13 minutes ago, Danex said:

Am I? I’ve drawn more attention to myself than anyone else with the whole Chainmail thing. And I have quite a lot of pressure actually, I have two votes. Tied for most. 

Speaking of that, I’m probably biased but my two voters are seeming very suspicious. Ventyl jumped on me without refuting or even acknowledging my rather strong evidence against Sart’s rather weak claim. 

I was also already suspicious of Sart because of how quiet they’ve been. Very reminiscent of the LG71 Elim team. 

iirc, I stated my suspicions of you last cycle. Before Sart posted anything about you. I also have disagreed with the chainmail idea. I believe that you’ve actually avoided a suspicion, as I recall, barely anyone considered the possibility of elim!Danex. You’re chainmail distracted them from who actually started it, as they became focused on who was coming up in the PM’s.

1 minute ago, Channelknight Fadran said:

To be honest, I thought turtle was pocketing me.

And I don’t think either of you were actively trying to pocket each other.

Also, here is a vote count:
Gears (2): Somebody from Sel, Tj Shade
Fadran (2): Quinn, Shard of Reading
Danex (2): Sart, Ventyl

This game has gone insane.

I definitely don’t agree with this Fadran lynch. Considering how Turtle flipped, shouldn’t we assume that Fadran is more likely to be a villager? They worked together, which could’ve been an elim trying to pocket Turtle, but that could easily backfire. I definitely think @Sart had a good point regarding Danex, whom I still find extremely suspicious for starting this whole train, which has done nothing but cause too much confusion to be good and get a villager killed.

7 minutes ago, Ashbringer said:

Danex's entire intention was to build a way for us to know who was roleblocked and is an Elim-killer candidate (Gears) without forcing the roleblocker to claim. An intention I think is highly valid. I don't see how the possible misuse of his system by anyone would incriminate him more than the misusers (Ghander, Turtle, Fadran). 

My point was that he was framing Gears from the start.

1 minute ago, Quinn0928 said:

We've considered this already; the problem is that it's possible Reading is TLR and village-aligned. In that case, and if he died, all PMs would be closed which would be a major disadvantage for villagers while basically not affecting elims at all. The idea is that we lynch someone else involved to see if we can get more information on what everyone is likely to be.

Edit: and then, if WGG seems more likely once we know more, we lynch Reading (though I personally read him as village)

Okay, so instead of Reading, we lynch Danex. They did start this whole mess after all, and what better way for elims to frame a mislynch than this? It might have also been a good way to draw attention away from Reading, as the idea was crazy enough to distract people from their survival.

21 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

• eltruT (9): Channelknight Fadran, Gears, Danex, Ghanderflaffle, Shard of Reading, Flyingbooks42, Quinn0928, Bearer of all agonies, Somebody from Sel
• Gears (5): Ventyl, Whysper, TJ Shade, Sart, Ashbringer
• Ghanderflaffle (2) eltruT, Kings_way
• Ventyl (1): Amanuensis
• Quinn0928 (1): JesterLavorre

How. Did. This. Happen? I don’t know if this will help, but I received a PM from @eltruT at around 9 PM CST today saying that Gears was roleblocked. I also got one from Quinn saying the same at around 6:30 PM CST on Sunday.

@Amanuensis, what do you think of all of this? You’ve been quiet, are you going to leave your vote on me?

Also, I think we should consider this:
What if there is a Reading/Danex elim team? Reading gets WGGed, and then Danex suggests this PM plan, which if started by an elim could easily lead to a mislynch, as I think is happening right now. I say we vote out Reading here, because I never did like how we skipped over the idea of them being an elim, with only their word to back it up. If @Shard of Reading flips elim, we can lynch @Danex next. If they flip village, we lynch Gears or Turtle. 

3 minutes ago, Danex said:

What was that?

Go read the first Cycle of QF48.