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I'd love to :-) though I'll only make my first move this evening (it's 10:47 AM here at the moment and I need to head away from the site). You move first and I'll respond in a few hours. I enjoyed this game, thank you :-)

Fair enough :-) thanks 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 I believe that ends the game.

Sorry, that was an accident. I've been copying what you write out of the quote and then adding my move. That time I accidentally added my move before copying, and when I noticed I realised the only way to change it was to edit the comment, which I felt could be seen as an attempt at cheating. I'll try to be more careful from this point 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

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Well, its early days still :-D 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

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I'm not following? [Edit] Ahhh, I just realised! Sorry, I was thinking in terms of tic-tac-toe, not that the things sink! Sorry, here is my move: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Let's pretend it was on the way down ...

@The Unknown Order :-D 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Consider yourself challenged! :-P

Taldain is only on lockdown because of Autonomy, the shard is preventing people from coming or going, not the cultures - Khriss herself wants to return but can't. Indeed! I could certainly see that as a restriction, though I also wonder if the shards can make more Dawnshards, or if they can but not making them is also a restriction because they used them as weapons and don't want to be vulnerable. It would be wise not to lie to a Truthsayer :-P The ALU, or arithmetic logic unit, is the part of a computer that performs arithmetic and logical operations. In essence you feed it the contents of two registers and an instruction on what operation to perform, and it performs that operation on the data (i.e. you can tell it to perform summation on the two values, or logical AND between corresponding bits, etc. it basically is a bunch of gates in parallel connected to a multiplexer, the operation to perform basically being to select which of those parallel elements to connect to the output). The Datapath contains the ALU and connects it to the various registers and funnels results to and from the ALU and the registers. The Controlpath controls the Datapath, telling it which registers to access and which functions to perform. That is a summary, but the general idea :-) ... You know, this is suddenly making me think of those people who put Radium in various beverages in the early days of discovering radioactivity. Thanks! That is very interesting information!

Fair enough :-P

Fair enough :-P though we'll have to see - it took until Zane I believe until Mistborn thought about hiding coins in their mouths, so maybe they only figured it out about the same time Scadrial or Roshar started moving among the worlds via ship :-P It is only isolationist because of Autonomy, so, by the logic you mentioned for Sel, it could well be open again by Era 3 or 4. Maybe, but it is one of my favourite ideas, along with the Rosharan system eventually having its shards held collectively by ten people - so a single shard with ten vessels - and the idea the Cosmere will end with the Power moving to a new cluster to start the process all over again :-P Ahhh, but that wasn't their only agreement I believe, I think the go our own way plan was only part of what they "agreed to", and the rest of what they agreed to was actually binding, that some thought some rules were stricter than others, but that there were rules nevertheless, rather than a single suggestion to stay away. If one was "don't interfere with one another", and another was "don't make X, or try to do X", then going to the same system to work together isn't breaking the first, but if they are going to make X, then it is. Ahhh, you are a fan of Dune too :-) Scadrian mentats sounds cool. I do believe, however, that Sibling-like spren, or spren with minds bound into technology, like the Oathgates and the Soulcasters when the Soulcasters are awake, and like Shardblades but with powers, are going to be a thing. We still don't know if a logicspren is the equivalent of a NAND gate or an entire ALU, or Datapath and Controlpath. Fair enough :-P though Brandon did say they will find something important at the site of those explosions centred on Ettmetal :-)

... So, pretty insane then?

The only issue with that is Kelsier likely couldn't have been a Dawnshard when he was alive, as it is implied Dawnshards amplify the power of investiture. That theory could be wrong, but it it is right then Kelsier would have been able to use the Dawnshard and his Allomancy to perform feats that likely were on the level of planet-breaking.

Quick heads up to those talking about spren and aluminium - spren in gemstones try to avoid it, and it is the method of making decoupled conjoiner fabrials, so using aluminium allows one to isolate a direction from being affected by the conjoiner, the spren actively trying to avoid that spot in the gemstone. It probably isn't as significant when talking about radiant spren, but it definitely seems spren trapped in gemstones - many of which are themselves aluminium oxides - react negatively to it.

A few years back I posted a topic about the conflux stories, and Roshar's relation to them, here: In that post, I said the following: Who else thinks this might actually relate to Mistborn Era 3, that the Ghostbloods are going to be players on Scadrial pushing their technologies further with the magic systems they acquired, along with Stormlight and the metals they've been able to gather - remember, Mraize gave Shallan a raysium dagger.

As I noted further long, there are indications that that issue can be gotten around, and as the quote you linked to noted Brandon said you have to jump through some hoops to achieve it. My conclusion was that, for the moment, it is not well known or common for the Dor and the other systems to be used beyond their regions and beyond the planet, not that it is impossible, only at present very uncommon. As @Frustration said, I meant Taldain. Though Ashyn, Sel, and Roshar also have examples of organisms which natively feed on and use investiture, but Taldain does seem to be the go to for utalising invested lifeforms. Also, I am using microbe as a catchall term for any single celled or basic multicellular organism - I imagine the lichen colony on a single grain of white sand to be a very small colony, relatively speaking. The original post is here: I tend to mention it often whenever Silverlight comes up though :-P Ahhh, yeah, it sort of follows on from the previous sentence, which I - and I blame my ADHD - didn't properly flesh out, as I tend to jump around when writing and rework a sentence without checking it still makes sense, or going on tangents in the middle. Basically, I think Devotion and Dominion were trying to build something on Sel - build being making a place or a type of people or a type of magic system, etc. - and that what they were trying to build would violate the agreement of the shards, that they were making something to get around a restriction that the shards were subjected to. Basically, the shards are powerful, but as Hoid noted to Jasnah they don't have freedom, that Hoid has more freedom than they do. The Iree also showed that things can be made that can be hidden from a shard, that the shards are powerful but - as Renarin and Nightblood show - vulnerable and blind at the same time. I think Devotion and Dominion were trying to break the rules on Sel, perhaps by making individuals who had the power or freedom to do things the shards couldn't, things that undermined the agreement between the shards, and so Odium, who always seeks to justify his attacks on other shards, took them out. Endowment, in her letter to Hoid in Oathbringer, said in effect that Devotion and Dominion brought their own doom upon themselves, that they were trying to violate the pact. One can see oneself as an opposite or as a compliment, the different colours don't necessarily mean they see themselves as enemies, only as two halves that are distinct. That is a long, long other story :-P basically I think the shards, and splinters, are going to be compared to AI in later stories. Think of the Sibling as an AI build into the Tower and the story makes a lot of sense. I think future spren are going to be tightly woven into control mechanisms of Rosharan technology. I wrote a bit more about it, but only a little more, here: He did: This is slightly more roundabout reasoning, but there is an implication that Ruin and Preservation, as shards, are more opposed than any others, that in a sense Ruin is the opposite of Preservation and might be similar to - though not necesserily identical to - Prevervations anti-investiture. Brandon hinted at the idea the site of Ettmetal explosions will have something of significance to the Cosmere. I suspect this will be similar to the discoveries Navani made. Indeed!

I like a lot of these responses, but they do still feel a little problematic in their own ways. I do like the idea that Hoid has a secret goal in this, that Taravangian actually played into his hands without realising it, but I feel like revealing that is going to be difficult without it coming across as contrived - here's hoping the flute is key!

Yes, and by someone else. Multiple people can ask Brandon the same question, or related questions and get the same answer - and Brandon has likewise sometimes mistaken a question he has been asked before. Brandon having answered this question in the past doesn't mean he wasn't answering it again later, as he has been asked hundred of questions, and can't remember every one or every answer. The first part of the question was RAFOed, the next part doesn't have to follow from the first.

@RedBlue there probably will be some later parts of the Cosmere either indicating that the process of forming Harmony was either a good thing - in bringing the shards together again - or a bad thing - the conflict of intents. I imagine those who wanted the shards scattered likely weren't looking forwards to the pieces recombining, yet I think it is necessary for a true balance to be achieved without the shards likely becoming the very thing they opposed - they each had their own reasons for splitting the power, and I imagine at least a few of them did so because they felt the power's goals were detrimental to their own survival.

That quote seems to be implying the sixteen shards could have had different properties, that when split the split they formed were a way to view its traits but not the only way. Otherwise there is no reason for Brandon to RAFO the question then say it could have happened another way - the quote implies he meant a different set of sixteen shards, rather than a different number.

@Kingsdaughter613 and @The Unknown Order I could have done with that sort of discussion a few years back :-P I'm not entirely sure Brandon used other classes for designing the other systems, only that they as archetypes - and many other classes are based on them, often combining - were used for the big three, which then were extrapolated further and then made more broad. Either way, I do think it is significant that the main three systems or groups are so closely linked to those general ideas.