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It doesn't make sense that Kiin would have been able to kill that monk then, but he did it without any of the powers from Sel.

A normal dakhor monk would probably be outmatched from what we know so far, as they wouldnt be immune to the pushes and pulls of an allomancer, who could stay out of their reach easily too.

Maybe there is a type of nahel bond involved in gaining a shardblade, and seeing as szeth does not have this bond may explain why.

Good idea. Maybe the new magic systems are working from the ashes of the original one's coding.

Following up on my previous thread, I would like to see who everyone's favourite characters in the cosmere books are. My own is Marsh, whose character I thought was greatly thought out and written.

I sincerely hope so.

I find the thought that they mostly don't know about the wider cosmere really disconcerting, for some reason. While after reading Mistborn (the first of Brandon's books I read) I didn't know much about it, I could already tell there was something deeper than the trilogy that would connect everything. I just don't know how you wouldn't be able to talk about that when talking about Brandons books, seeing as it is central to so many things.

yeah, big fail by me.

At the moment my profile bar says I am at sixteen reputation but my stats page on my profile says I have been cast 52 positive points. Are these two different things? EDIT: Just realised now, sorry

oh, now i get it

I'd put it simply as a Vorin style of name, apart from the obvious one that lighteyes names are often palindromes. A lot of writers simply make names similar in their books to match how naming works in real life (I could tell an English name from an Arabic one straight away).

Am I missing the significance of sodium?

Wow a combat use for cadmium?! The world has ended!

That theory sounds pretty good, not only is it a really awesome plot twist but I remember in tWoK when Dalinar is talking to Navani and his sons about going to the Nightwatcher he pays particular attention to Renarin's reaction.

Will do, thanks

Kurk, you've been on the forums a long time, do you know if you or someone else has already made a theory about this (biochroma stuff, not hathsin stuff). I wouldn't mind making a theory about it myself.

Interesting. I've always thought of shards functioning in a similar way: only so much can be used at once, but nothing is really lost forever. Oh yeah, on a completely different subject, I noticed a really minor connection that is probably just a coincidence, but might be an 'easter egg' on Brandon's behalf. Slaves in the pits of hathsin have to find an atium bead at least once a week to survive. This is eerily similar to the state of the returned, swapping atium for breath. Kelsier's 'surviving' could also be compared to 'returning'. Maybe this even conveys the message that the returned are just as doomed as the slaves, always eventually dying for the people of T'Telir.

What are you thinking it is, Kurk?

Yeah, but then a sword only needs energy when its being swung (normally this would come from the arm of the bearer, but because nightblood is powerful it uses the energy very quickly). Returned are always living, and as in the same way humans always need food to get energy/glucose, returned are always slowly eating away at the breath.

I agree. Simply 'not knowing you were in a speed bubble' would not keep it from affecting you, as we see Wax not instantly knowing about Wayne's speed bubble but it still having an effect on him. I would also say it is the type of perception that makes us think of our chest or head as the centre of our body.

Kurk, on chat we theorised that the reason no breath was spent in awakened objects was because they weren't sentient like returned or nightblood, and so the expense in breath had something to do with the cognitive aspect of the manifestation.

I'd say they are both a fuel in their own right. If we said it in terms of a car, the breath would be the engine and colour the battery. We know that returned require a breath a week, as they use whatever type of energy is in the breath to stay alive for seven days, not needing food or any other type of sustenance. Much in the way a car needs fuel in its engine to keep running. Now on the other hand, awakeners suck a bit of colour out of their surroundings to transfer their breath to another place. I would compare this to the way a car needs a battery to kickstart itself, but the battery is generally not used when the car is running. The only discrepancy I can see with this is that normal awakened objects do not feed off breath. Thoughts?

One thing I forgot, if ever there was going to be a disparity in the ratio of mistings there would be less seers, because they are so powerful in a fight (we see in HoA a group of a dozen or two fighting hundreds of thousands of koloss for hours). However, the stats in HoA show us that exactly a sixteenth of the people who got snapped by the mists became seers. I doubt there would be less of another type of allomancer than seers, so the ratio is probably always one sixteenth for every type on average.

I'm pretty sure there will still be a futuristic trilogy. The Wax and Wayne books are separate from the main sequence as far as I know.