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I have always pronounced his name as kal-uh-din, but as Brandon says there are no correct pronunciation in this fandom, so feel free to pronounce it as you like it. He is my favourite character too, His struggles and his ability to stand tall amidst it all, and not alone but raise a whole group of people with him, is very inspiring. My favourite book is OB, which one is yours?

Yes I can see the tactical advantage that offers. It just makes more sense to have the one order with both surges related to interacting with CR to be given the spren-human relations department.

@Honorless so stormfather was giving the visions out of compulsion but had no intention of bonding: yes I was saying the same thing. @Dancer you think tezim is also having the visions? I doubt that seeing the high opinion stormfather has of him @Oltux72 yes it could be a propaganda that has just become popular. it is plausible either way.

I always took it to mean that elsecalling was easier and worked better for elsecallers than willshapers because it says “the others were inferior in this visiting”..... I did not think that it was solely a matter of political preference.

But I agree with OP, it just seems to coincidental that we have heirocracy and sadees the sunmaker both fighting trying to conquer all of Roshar and both claimed that they have a divine mandate from almighty to unite all humankind... It is possible that stormfather is compelled from time to time to send the visions out. We have no confirmation that stormfather only started doing it recently.

I think I need to do some checking on how the oathgates do it and then see if it is possible for an individual to do as well. I agree that travel faster than light via CR seems to be what the oathgates do too. But if elsecalling is only for elsecaller order then what does the surge do for willshapers? This works too as something that the surge of transportation provides. I will take it. It is not a viable option also as it really strains him, oathgates are better and easier option.

Yes may be fifth ideal, then. It may be different for willshapers...

Yes but I really think that the surge of transportation has to be more than just elsecalling. It should give them teleportation.. and if they have that, then that makes them very difficult to beat.

Taldain perpendicularity is in the sun? That does not make any sense.... I agree @Calderis Taldain system on the whole is very confusing and we don’t know enough. hmmm.. is there any likelihood of a second prose version on white sand 2 in the future.

Yup And access to urithiru also

Denying the fused fresh bodies is part of the solution but there has to be more. Clearly.

That’s a fair point. So it is likely that cultivation is going to blindside him again. What possible use would he be for odium, apart from spying on dalinar?

Hmm yup true but that was probably a calculated risk on cultivation’s part atleast I will hope for that...

odium was aware that Dalinar had met cultivation and not NW. So he probably knows about T too. If dalinar had failed, then T was her plan B. But now that plan A dalinar is a success, Mao now plan C = the diagram always required T to make the deal with odium. @Karger it is definitely not good for odium at least.

Bashing heads is not the same though. It could still be more difficult for kaladin or the fused to change the direction of gravity for the other or to bond the other...

Oh that speaks for a lot. I know it is not easy for people like her to apologise.

Also, is it not true that preservation had invested way more into the scadrial system when they made it. That was the reason that he was weaker than ruin and he had to hide his body. If ati had managed to find his body, he would be significantly more powerful than preservation. So in that sense, are the two shards perfectly balanced? Discord instead of harmony makes more sense to me. one more thing, I have always wanted to know. What happened to all that atium they burned away. Usually atium geodes would have regrown after 300 years. But now there will be no new atium but that part of ruin which was more, which was consumed by elend and his mistings, will that part of ruin grow again? Will that make ruin portion of the shard stronger? May be that is why sazed is now, after 300 yrs or some is finding balancing the two forces difficult... it is all just speculation guys but I have always wondered about it. Ever since I knew that era 2 was 300 yrs after era 1.

But it should be more difficult to riot/soot listings when they are actively burning metals. Merely ingesting metals does not mean that you are invested enough to resist other investiture. So in general, during a fights with mistborns or mistings, soothing and rioting should not work. And apart from copper mistings or bronze mistings to some extent, I don’t think people have their metal burning on all the time.

Dude.. that was golden. Laughing.. has the last wish been redacted ? Well then I shall continue. I wish for peaceful nuclear disarmament. Try and make fun of that now you guys

Agree totally. Shallan showed her portraits of people and animals which jasnah probably looks at a mere hobby type of thing and not a scholarship. And at that time jasnah had no idea how quickly shallan can make them, how accurately and from memory by taking just one look. There was no reason for jasnah to think that shallan would be good at cartography etc when she did realise, she told shallan that I made a mistake, I underestimated the usefulness of your talent. Which I think is usually very difficult for scholars of the her stature to do. This is one of the things I like about jasnah.

Lol I really don’t mind although please keep the alethi s away from me!! Granted but every time you enter and exit your pocket realm you age 25 years so u will die very soon i wish to be a fullborn with all the metalminds and allomantic metals

Granted but you get the old wand of Ron Weasley, you try to avada cadavera odium with it and it backfires on you. I wish for a chasmfiend pet who I can completely control

Granted and you are immediately teleported to the space due to lack of environment and oxygen you freeze to death. I wish for a suit made of dragonsteel

Until recently, I would have named him, but now I am on the fence with him. Moash I mean. Best moment is I am unity and when kaladins 2nd oath and sazed picking up harmony and also awesome moment was when silence Montaine unleashed her own personal monster at the end of the story. Saddest I have mentioned many in the thread that is, but there is one more. When renarin gives dalinar the small bottle and dalinar hugs him and bawls like a baby @Honorless have u read aether if the night? I have it but have not got around to reading it yet... and you have to subscribe for the newsletter to get white sand prose and also it goes into spam many times.

Vengeance and retribution are pretty close concepts so who knows. I think odium left some splinters behind and that is why he is called the broken one. His shard is broken. But he still went to take on 2 shards which surprises me, but may be that is why this time he decided that he will play safely and take more time.