Ishar

Well, Cosmere follows preservation of investiture, which is slightly different, and could be argued to be a different thing, even though the meaning is still the same. Also, I have been thinking about it, and there are definitely some areas where things don't, to the best of my knowledge of the cosmere, add up to this. For example, perfectly cut gemstones appear to break the law of preservation of investiture (this is something I would like to get a WoB on, and if one already exists, please let me know), since they can hold stormlight without leaking, and yet they still give off light, and that energy/investiture in the form of light has to come from somewhere, but we know it doesn't come from the stormlight leaking out of the gem as it does with other gemstones. My main point though was that the Cosmere's law of Preservation of Investiture supersedes Preservation of energy, even though it could pretty easily be argued that it is just the same thing, hence the "depending on whether or not you consider investiture to be energy or to be its own thing" part of my statement. Also, the Reckoners most definitely does not follow Preservation of Energy.

I feel like most books with magic involve energy being created... Even Sanderson's books to an extent, depending on whether or not you consider investiture to be energy or to be its own thing. Or, for example, The Name of the Wind, which really has 2 magic systems (symmetry and naming), and while symmetry follows preservation of energy, naming does not (Pretty much every time somebody manipulates the wind, they are adding or removing kinetic energy from a system, and it never indicates where that energy goes or comes from). I would also be curious to see a list of the books you are referring to in which preservation of energy is followed, because I can think of a lot of books where there is limited power for magic, but that power generates from seemingly nothing. Also, if I had to guess, the reason why so many books follow preservation of energy (at least to some extent) is so that they can't just use sudden new abilities to move the plot along, and so that the characters are actually limited in what they can do. A lot of books also toss the idea that energy can't be created or destroyed into the system, but then do things that if you actually think to much about would absolutely require creation or destruction of energy. I guess my point is, the reason why you may have trouble finding books that blatantly disregard preservation of energy is that the level of power the characters will have would be too difficult to really limit. Anyway, here is a list of books that I can think of off the top of my head that involve creation or destruction of energy (to the best of my physics understanding): The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss The Demon King by Cinda Williams Chima The Heir Chronicles by Cinda Williams Chima Eragon by Christopher Paolini The Ruin of Kings by Jenn Lyons (I can't think of specific examples in this one, but it has a totally different set of rules than actual physics) The Red Queen by Victoria Aveyard The Grishaverse (a bunch of books) by Leigh Bardugo The Cruel Prince by Holly Black Renegades by Marissa Meyer Fablehaven by Brandon Mull Gone by Michael Grant (A significant part of this one's plot is the complete breaking of all laws of physics... so...) Steelheart The Darkest Minds by Alexandra Bracken The Accidental Hero by Matt Myklusch The Alchemist by Michael Scott

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Then you should really complain about hurting fingers in the thread (or whatever) that did make your fingers hurt, cause now I am confused.

*Darkfinder types a whole 6 characters to say *wins* then complains about sore fingers*

I legit looked at @Truthless of Shinovar's avatar and thought "Is that a person with a large ear for a head or something?" and then I looked up and saw@DramaQueen say "pixelated seth" and I realized that that makes much more sense. I am definitely not the person to be asking to identify pixelated images this late at night.

An hour of what (only asking cause I am too lazy to go read through the context )

I keep getting mentioned in this thread. I think the one way to actually win this game is to just not care. I don't care.

Because it is over 5 words and on a meme thread (I would have made this joke about people in general not reading things more than 5 words, but then I remembered what website I was on).

I am gonna ask the question here, did Dalinar even actually ascend? Summoning a perpendicularity is certainly impressive, but (correct me if I am wrong) I don't think you actually have to Ascend to do that. Perpendicularities (as I understand it) appear where there are highly concentrated amounts of a shards investiture, which Dalinar certainly summoned, but I don't remember it feeling all that much like he was directly wielding all of it, especially since the "glowing beacon" (as I definitely remember it being described) consisted of a ton of gloryspren. Here is the first WoB I found on it: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/377/#e12295 which, big surprise, is mostly a RAFO. I think though that the way Dalinar was able to gather enough of a shattered shard in one place certainly implies that Dalinar would/will be able to eventually reconstruct the shard as a whole.

All five of the books I recommended in my last post have a level of romance, but I would say The Demon King by Cinda Williams Chima is the one with the closest level of romance to Elantris.

Here's a brief list of good fantasy books: The Demon King by Cinda Williams Chima Six of Crows by Leigh Bardugo The Cruel Prince by Holly Black A Darker Shade of Magic by V.E. Schwab The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss

Ishar

A bunch of Stormlight memes: tWoK spoilers: WoR spoilers: Oathbringer Spoilers:

This is looking the most promising right now, thanks.

Both Five Kingdoms and Beyonders are some of my favorite all-time books (I have contemplated re-reading Beyonders a couple of times, but I usually don't have the patience for rereads), so while they are great books, unfortunately I have already read them. I likely will have complaints (I almost always have complaints), just the hope is that I actual read the entire book. I will definitely look into getting a copy of WOF. Recently I did order a couple of books (Otaku and The Ruin of Kings, anybody heard of/read them?), and am waiting for them to arrive.

YKYAS when you and your friends start finding parallels between Hamilton (the musical) and Cosmere characters. It started when a friend decided that the love triangle between Hamilton, Eliza, and Angelica is like the love triangle between Navani, Gavilar, and Dalinar.

I've seen this one around before, and I know it is categorized as a children's book, and I have reached a point where I find that the style/level of writing in most children's book is just not at a high enough level for me to get through them (I am absolutely not trying to insult or put down the book in any way). For example, when I first read the Unwanteds by Lisa McMann in third grade, I loved them, but if I tried reading them now I would never get through them. I have the same issue with Brandon Mull's Dragonwatch, I read and loved Fablehaven, but 5 years later I was unable to get into Dragonwatch. My impression of WoF is that I will have a similar issue. Do you think that I might be right, or is my impression completely off?

Cool, I figured I was missing a lot of context, but decide not to go through and actually figure out what that was Edit: I looked back through at the quotes that were posted and they look very familiar... Is it a book, or some other form of media?

Setting the bar a bit high. The best book I can think of to fit this (outside of Sanderson) is probably the Kingkiller Chronicles, but knowing a lot of people on the shard have already read that, here's a few other good books: Legend by Marie Lu Scythe by Neal Shusterman The Demon King by Cinda Williams Chima The Demon King by Cinda Williams Chima has a great romance (although it is pretty obvious who is going to fall in love with who) that develops really well over the course of all four books. In regard to introducing new powers, as long as you don't read the sequel series (which is good, just not as good as the originals) random new powers is not an issue. All 3 of the books I listed for Truthless of Shinovar are very good fantasy, which although I think they are all categorized as teen fantasy, seemed fine for adults to me (although I am a teenager). Scythe by Neal Shusterman is really good Utopia/Dystopia sci-fi book. It is pretty violent at times (although not graphic), probably on par with the most violent part of Oathbringer (If you read Oathbringer, you know what I am referring to). Legend is also very good, especially the characters, although world building is limited by the fact that it takes place on Earth roughly 50 to 100 years or so in the future The closest I can think of to this is Scythe by Neal Shusterman, again, it can be pretty violent, but most of the world is pretty good. Of course, there are some "nightmarish or horrible" packets that drive the plot, but it does have a pretty good ending (Of all the books I have read, I consider this to have the second most complete/best ending of any book series, with the first Mistborn Trilogy being the first). Legend is a good dystopia in terms of high tech futuristic, but is also really depressing (definitely a dystopia), so probably not what you are looking for. I am looking for a good sci-fi/fantasy series that isn't overly complicated or long (I.E. Skyward size, not Stormlight size). Preferably something that is somewhat fast paced as well. Note: Sorry for the double post, it wouldn't let me add quotes to the edit... If a mod or something wants to delete it, please do.

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Why did you?

Recently the title of the new Stormlight novella was released, and I was wondering if anybody knows anything about how to get the novella/when it will become available (obviously it isn't out yet) outside of the Way of Kings Leatherbound Kickstarter. Is it going to be available to order somewhere? If anybody knows anything about this, please let me know.

I got a friend to read all the cosmere (took forever, but she did, and is now on the shard), and then I got several friends to read TFE, but most stopped after that, and now that we are in lockdown, one of the friends who read TFE read all three stormlight books in the course of a week. (They read TFE at least a year ago).

A Stormlight themed version of Stratego (if anybody is familiar with it) would probably be interesting to try to make