Pearl Chameleon

Amber Vulture?

How about one vote above

heron

Magenta Albatross

No.

Sure: Okay: Science here Science here as well Something that sounds like a whole lot of blabbing. Science (2) : Saffron Iguana, Ostrich Some nonsense (1) : Lion

Literally proven by science The freelanders were right. Science is a scam. They need to post more?

I encourage you to read this entire day first, then vote me for any of the ten reasons the others provide.

Let them get filter killed. Sounds fun. Might do it myself, actually. They turned their copper cloud off, as has been said before.

I just want to leave Because you are an elim? You reacted to the gambit as if you were an Elim? What else?

My point is, I'd rather die today than be double Exe'd and singlehandedly cost another village loss.

You're ignoring the evidence and cherry picking. I had told other people I was going to fakeclaim long before heron needed defending. Again, Scorpion can vouch for that, as with the fifty other people who mouse told about the gambit. Again, look at the swan post and tell me that I'm the only person defending heron.

Of course, because I would fakeclaim: -being scanned -a seeker of dubious alignment -being a mistborn -self protecting N1 In order to protect someone else, who I could've bussed or someone who I could've deflected the suspicion to. No one is thinking logically in this game. I'm not moving my vote. I'd rather just be done with this game and leave. Scorpion, Zebra, and Iguana all knew I was a thug before this gambit even happened, as I have said before. You claim I have no backing to my own claims. That is strictly false. And look at the second paragraph! Someone else doesn't find mint Heron elimmy! I'm so glad this was posted right after! Does no one even read the thread?

4. Dude. It's. My. Role. I don't care what you think about it The gambit was half trashed anyways, and I don't see a reason for the village to ML me twice and lose should I hold on to this god Forsaken gambit 6. Feel free to draw your own conclusions from this whole ordeal, but I can confidentially say that Lion is village, mainly due to their line of questioning and the interaction they had with penguin. Again, I've listed out before why I think penguin is the elim, and since no one seems to care, I will not be wasting my time listing them again. 8. I already know the real mistborn who shot vulture, and if I wanted to find out, I would've claimed that I shot vulture and waited for the counterclaim. How is claiming thug inherently evil? I can claim whatever I want, mainly because it's my role and not yours. Like, what would you have wanted me to do instead? If I'm a villager, I'm going to try to avoid being Exe'd. If I'm a Elim, I'm going to try and avoid being Exe'd. Claiming thug is strictly to avoid a double village ml. Like, how is any of that ai? Your line of reasoning just doesn't make sense. If you seriously think I'm genuinely gamethrowing, contact the IM or something. It's not my problem. I'm not doing the storming MR67 philosophy about whether or not I would self vote if Elim. Mainly because I DON'T CARE Amethyst Scorpion voting me was not planned. The point of this fake claim stuff, as has been previously stated, is to get NK'd. The reaction part was secondary. I should not have to keep on explaining this. Secondly, I don't know how many times I have to phrase this for you, but THE SEEKER DOESN'T STORMING EXIST. Stop asking about it, because I've already given you an answer. Additionally, I'd like to note that AG8 Meerkas was perfectly fine with the gambit because they were going to die anyways. Mouse mentioned it to me in a PM. The seeker. Does. Not. Exist. End of discussion. (And no, I am not moving my vote. I simply don't care anymore)

He first told me about this idea N2, and I wanted to delay it until D3, because that would raise less questions. Also, I was semi responsive to the gambit (I wouldn't say I didn't like it), but Mouse's suggestion was sort of, you know, given to me when I was sleeping, so not much I can do. I don't understand how my fate entwines with Heron's. Additionally, if I get killed because of someone else's role being the same as mine one more time, I will return from beyond the grave to haunt y'all Dude I'm a thug that's just a waste of time Like, how many people did mouse even tell Chameleon This entire thing is worthless. The. Entire. Storming. Thing. I'm done. I'm just done.

It implies Elim rioter if Elim penguin, yeah? Fuchsia Ostrich made a sort of indecisive reaction, not sure if I like that reaction. Although I am curious to know why you think that a reaction test is e!indicative. You haven't said why, exactly. Tbh, mouse suggested I fake being green scanned, I wanted to claim mistborn in thread, one of the ideas was to say it came from a dubious source, so I combined all of them and now Aman's probably dying on the inside wherever he is.

Forgot, but additional evidence is that e!rioter could've tried to save penguin indirectly by tying up Hyena, they said in PM that they were worried of the coinshot, and wouldn't want to be coinsmitten, and their "analysis" is not actually analysis- both times they've posted it.

No one will ever understand but yes this was indeed a reaction test that's what I'm trying to get you to realize anyways that's not important but it's going to be annoying if I have to be exe'd twice and it's a ml anyways 1. I'm a village thug 2. No, I did not get scanned by a seeker 3. Mouse's idea was a lot better and tbh we probably should've rolled with it 4. It was indeed a reaction test, but the objective was to try and get the elims to waste an NK on me 5. Scorp, Zebra, and Iguana all were informed of this idea beforehand 6. Beagle and lion are likely village based on the results, and penguin and ostrich are probably less village. 7. Let's be honest this is a disaster anyways but if anyone wants to vouch for the seeker (which doesn't exist) to disprove me go ahead. 8. An important line of thought is "why would an Elim make this reaction test" and the easiest answer is "cham is backpedaling" andy response to that is: What evidence do you have for the seeker's existence, and me being a mistborn? Again, if anyone wants to come forward and claim to be a proxy for a seeker who scanned me N2, go ahead, but otherwise you have no proof. Besides, if I'm e!Cham, why would I make this whole ordeal? Especially if I'm a thug, I'd rather sacrifice myself twice in order to stifle to village, and tbh the elims are already winning. Also, @Saffron Iguana, @Quartz Zebra or @Amethyst Scorpion can vouch for this (if they don't, and I flip village thug, you've found 3 elims!) I will admit, it wasn't the most well thought-out fake claim, but it worked, and I'll go recatoge

@Oxblood Beagle @Magenta Albatross @Melon Dingo @Mint Heron @Mauve Crocodile @Quartz Zebra @Amethyst Scorpion @Amber Vulture @Fuchsia Ostrich @Coral Swan @Plum Rhinoceros Penguin is elim vote penguin

No. But I am confident of Penguin being an Elim. I have additional evidence, if anyone cares.

@Saffron Iguana I don't understand what this is asking

"We" probably refers to the Elim team lol since penguin is elim Opal Lion gave their read on Chameleon later, I recall.

Just by the way, if heron is the village coinshot, you've outted them in thread. Besides, a game with 3 mistborn vs Elim Coinshot is going to have a lot of RNG. I doubt the GMs would choose that kasayana of a distro, but who knows I guess? I think I have already said I will not be outing the seeker in thread. And why? Okay, but I think you're overlooking some major points: 1. If there is an Elim between me and the seeker, then why haven't I outted them in thread? It's far more beneficial to me (for either alignment) if I did that. 2. If I am the Elim, why on earth would I put myself in thread for no reason? Shouldn't e!chameleon imply the seeker exists, because otherwise, I'm throwing away a valuable tool to the elims? And if e!chameleon means that the seeker exists, wouldn't I just NK the seeker N3? Or try and push the vote towards them? I seriously don't see a world in which e!chameleon claims in thread over a fake seeker, and I don't see a world in which e!chameleon claims anyways. 3. And why would the seeker need to die? I can only see one reason why, and that would entail an Elim seeker, but then and again, why would they claim seeker to me? It's much more beneficial to just NK the person, and keep scan results hidden in the Elim doc in the back. In other words, I don't think an Elim seeker would make that kind of play. 4. While we're on the topic of it, in which world does v!chameleon claim in thread? Again, beagle outlined the best course of action, which would be to a) contact someone about the seeker privately and b) play along, and their alignment will be revealed eventually? You tell me what conditions you think v!chameleon would threadclaim in. I like this reasoning and line of questioning. I think it comes from a village mindset. You asked me who I would vote on, not who five people I think are elims are. I think you have misinterpreted my response. Basically it feels like that big post where penguin makes negative logic and extremely disjuncted conclusions comes from the mindset of "I will vote Cham no matter what but let me attach a big note onto it to make it look better" If you read my reads from before, at that time I had been reading Heron as Village. Similar to how I said something similar d1 about the scorp train, I am more inclined to defend my village reads.

Guys penguin is an Elim I'm almost certain Would vote: Penguin, Would not vote: Quartz Zebra, Oxblood Beagle, Fuchsia Ostrich, Iguana, Amethyst Scorpion, Opal Lion. That's the thing: They don't. Penguin is just trying to vote me, but has this whole spiral of thoughts that just don't make sense to try and justify it, and it just doesn't work.

They're the vote analyst, and they've been doing more analysis on votes than anyone else. Again, it hasn't been the best activity-wise, but I find it comes from a village mindset, not a Elim mindset.