Pearl Chameleon

Forgot to mention before that I also have a village read on Meerkat. They put themselves out there for the D1 lynch when there wasn't really a need to from an elim's perspective. There are still some things I don't like about the lynch (why Swan and why so little explanation?). But I now understand why it was so sudden and why it was arranged in PM's. I had been imagining that there was some more discussion through out the day on lynching Swan, but it looks like I was wrong about that. It seems that Beagle just sent out some last minute PM's to people who trusted him.

@Oxblood Beagle Fair enough. I admit that I wasn't thinking about Axolotl's post when I was writing mine, and the compassion of SE'ers is one of the things I appreciate about this forum. Though the comment about me lynching Axolotl was unnecessary. I'm starting to get a better picture of what happened now that you and Sapphire have posted about it. I think what really struck me about the bandwagon for Swan was that not much reasoning was posted with those votes. It's hard to tell from the end of D2 why Swan was picked specifically. Especially considering she didn't have any votes on her previously. I hope the others who voted on her also chime in.

Sorry for not posting last turn. I was rereading D1 in hopes of getting a better grasp of who is who, and it took longer than I thought. @Violet Axolotl It wasn't intentional. I didn't even notice until you mentioned it. Sorry about that. I have strong village reads on both Ivory and Gecko. Ivory has been very helpful and active. He's been changing his opinions here and there, but it seems to be because he's trying to be open to feedback. Gecko has a tendency not to defend himself when pressured by the lynch which isn't a typical village move, but it's definitely not an elim move. I have a slight village read on Beagle, but I disagree strongly with how he dealt with the Swan lynch. @Oxblood Beagle I understand that some players heavily use PM's and that's just as valid as being active in thread (and it seems that you're doing both- your activity is commendable). However. To consolidate a lynch within PM's and have a last minute bandwagon is not helpful for the village. On its own it would have made me suspicious of you, but given your other posts, I don't think you're elim. The problem with taking control of the lynch this way is that players are less invested in providing their reasoning in thread because they have already discussed it in PMs. At least, I'm going to assume that's why so little reasoning was laid out in thread, which is one of the things that feels so off about the lynch. Providing little reason in thread also prevents the village at large from contributing to the arguments given, either by bolstering them or, more often, knocking them down. Which is really important. I don't like that a couple of players decided on a lynch candidate to sneak up on. And I don't think that was anyone's intention (exempting the elim(s) who voted on Swan). I think you all truly believed that Swan was an elim and were doing your best to move the game forward. I'm only saying that I disagree with the method. I would appreciate if everyone who voted for Swan explained what their thinking was at the time. I'm definitely feeling that one of the players who joined the bandwagon on Swan is an elim. It was an easy way to get involved while ensuring the death of a villager and hiding yourself in the crowd, all at the same time. I'm not against bandwagons per say but the one last cycle came out of left field. It was too quick for anyone to process, and I am not comfortable with that. Well they trying not to lynch person whom they think that probably villager... What reasons you have to not trust them more than to anyone else in this game? If I remember right it's not the first time when you stating that counteracting to them(or atleast counteracting to Beagle). If you think that Beagle or Albatross is elim why not lynch them then you would know that Flamingo is probably also elim... I absolutely don't understand what you trying to achieve. Swan. I'm slightly leaning elim for @Indigo Weasel because of this post. Particularly the last part where Weasel emphasizes how they don't understand Swan's reasoning. I can understand the general point of view that Weasel is trying to convey. I can also understand Swan's reasoning for voting on Flamingo. It's not as out there as Weasel implies. Given the following bandwagon, I wonder if Weasel was part of a larger elim plan to get a helpful villager lynched. And as far as I can tell, this is the first time Weasel expressed suspicion of Swan. It just seems so sudden. My gut has a very bad feeling about Albatross. It's somewhat hard to explain though. I have to take a closer look at them. Sunburst Toucan seems to be blending into the background while still trying to participate. I have a neutral read on them right now, but I'll keep an eye on them.

Axolotl voted on me to get me to contribute. I would hardly call it an accusation, and it was only one post. I also made an analysis post before posting a vote count. I had started writing something up when Axolotl voted on me, but even if I hadn't, I'm not sure how making a post when Axolotl was pushing me to post is suspicious. To be fair, I didn't post often, but my post did end up getting Dingo lynched so I wouldn't say I hardly contributed anything. And as I mentioned when I said I was happy with the day 1 discussion, I think having another strong lynch candidate (well, strong as far as D1 lynches go) helped spur discussion. If we didn't have a second candidate, a Swan bandwagon would have been likely. In hindsight, it's true I didn't post much so my contribution might have been bigger in my mind then it was in reality. Having a post influence the day's outcome the way my D1 post did is a first for me so I'm quite proud of it. I'm sorry we hit a villager, but it'll be useful in the long run. I'm not a fan of bringing up how long I've been on SE in an anonymous game but that might help give you a frame of reference. Also, the IRL stuff I had mentioned before no longer apply, so I should be around.

My compliments to the writers and designers of Roshar Reporting. That was great. Dingo's backstory almost makes me feel bad for lynching him. I'm really happy with the amount of discussion on D1 though. I think having two candidates over the lynch really helped with that. I find it strange that Kangaroo promoted the D1 lynch but then didn't vote for anyone after removing their vote from Gecko (on page 2 and page 6 of the AG thread, respectively). Not sure if it should make me suspicious though. One one hand, the goals of the D1 lynch (discussion, an active player being lynched) had already been served by the time that Kangaroo removed his vote. But not having a final vote seems like an easy way to avoid attention when the D1 votes get analyzed down the road. I have some IRL stuff coming up, so if you don't see me post on day 2, that's why. I'll try to keep up with the thread, but I don't know if I'll have the time to put my thoughts together in a post.

Current vote count. I think I got it, but someone should probably double check it. Swan(2): Tuatara, Gecko, Meerkat Meerkat(0): Ostrich Weasel(1): gecko, Ostrich Penguin(0): Beagle mouse(1): Dingo Dingo(2): Tuatara, Scorpion, Falcon, Dingo Elephant(1): Hyena Axolotl(0): Dragonfly Scorpion(2): Tuatara, Albatross Octopus(0): kangoroo, octopus, Gecko corocodile(1): gorilla Vulture(1): Scorpion Gecko(3): Kangoroo, Dragonfly, Swan Dragonfly(0): Swan Heron(1) : Beagle Chameleon(1) : Axolotl

@Violet Axolotl Good timing. I was hoping to make another post tonight. On the Gecko lynch, I don't think it's helpful. Every time I've seen someone playing this way, it's never been because they're an elim. Gecko's behavior is confusing, not suspicious. I'm pretty certain that they're a villager. Unless they do anything suspicious, I'd rather let them have fun playing in a way they enjoy. I agree that we should have a D1 lynch, and we shouldn't be trying to lynch inactive players. Lynching a player because they're inactive gives us no discussion. So you have the downsides of a D1 lynch (you'll probably kill a villager) with none of the benefits (we can look at everyone's votes and arguments with the benefit of hindsight to find something suspicious). I can understand arguing against a D1 lynch, even if I disagree, but why would you want to lynch an inactive player? We might hit an elim if we lynch an inactive, but the odds of that are so low that it doesn't make lynching an inactive more attractive than a no lynch. I can see how D1 discussion can be easier to analyze after the lynchee dies, because we know then their role and alignment. But on the other hand, wouldn't hitting an Elsecaller have allow us to gain the benefits of D1 discussion while preventing us from killing a villager with little evidence? It was. Not sure if I messed up the formatting there, but hopefully that works... The fact that @Melon Dingo slid back into the shadows after defending himself makes me wonder if Falcon was right. It seems like he posted to save himself but doesn't want to risk getting too involved in the conversation for fear of drawing attention or suspicion. I find it odd that he didn't try to disprove Falcon's point by joining the discussion. So my vote will go to Dingo. Coral's vote on Ivory did stand out to me, but their reasoning does make some sense. I don't agree that there's anything suspicious about their RP. Coral isn't a bad lynch candidate, but I'd rather vote on Dingo for now just because they seem like the better alternative. I'll try to sneak on again tomorrow before the turn ends to see where things are at, but I can't promise that. Yes, yes they are. I swear, I am going to accidentally use wrong pronouns on somebody in this game...

This is going to be fun.