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Say what you will about Abercrombie he knows how to make memorable characters.

("Say one thing for Logen Ninefingers, say he's a survivor." reference ;P)

 

Logen Ninefingers, Dogman, Harding Grim, Sand dan Glokta were very good, I didn't experience raw feeling of epicness like those since Gemmell's Legend back in the day.

 

Nicomo Cosca as well... till Red Country. Bremer dan Gorst one of my favorites as well(one with huge swords and funny voice), he's like my extreme version in a way And Cracknut Whirrun of course

I can see why so many people here share dislike for less heroic fantasy authors as most of us are Sanderson's hardcore fans and he is best(I mean it) at epic/heroic fantasy genre. His worlds and magic systems are above anything I've read, scope is as epic as it gets and even Malazan got nothing on it if you consider whole Cosmere but he got some serious flaws. Everyone got them and there are no perfect authors. Why would anyone compare First Law to Stormlight Archieve is beyond me. Yes for me BS is best high/epic/heroic fantasy author out there but guess what, Joe Abercrombie is best too, except at low fantasy. You dislike low fantasy? Then of course he's not for you. You dislike heroic fantasy? Then you'll never enjoy Brandon's books. I love both because they are so different and I get bored if I keep reading same stuff over and over again. I prefer Abercrombies characters over Sanderson's(Not all of them though) because they are more real and interesting to me but again if you can't handle anti-heroic main characters and have a need of a hero in a shining armor saving world in every book you read then of course you'll prefer Sanderson's characters. This post most likely will end up getting lots of hate if anyone reads it but I can't take Abercrombie/GRRM fans who hate Sanderson for his heroic characters/stories and same goes for Sandersons fans hating on Abercrombie/GRRM for anti-heroic characters/stories.

I don't see how could BS ruin Abercrombie for anyone. Those two are writing totally different stuff and their books can't be compared but as in High Fantasy books, BS tends to do that.

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14180, I have no idea what I got.

edit: got to 3120 just by spamming :D

A few months? I SWEAR it took just one single day in my case, and one friend of mine had to wait the same time than me sending the mail at a different time.

 

By the way, we have seen a worldhopper who comes from White Sand (everyone who has read the book might know who is he), so at least we can confirm that some of the major characters still there for the official version (at least Khriss and B***).

You mean one of three 17thsharders?

Not sure anymore but I too always thought ideals were what Gavilar meant but it's too easy at this point :| Maybe he will find those words in his own book...

Gavilar wasn't Radiant, wouldn't he show his abilities before death? He would be more prepared for Szeth if he was on whole KR business and he would've survived the fall. It is still possible that he had Spren but I doubt it...

Didn't like K much even though I watched it in a single night. Not my stuff...

GTO anyone?

Renarin in Shardplate = Alphonse :D

i seen an interview where he said there would be a big gap between books 5-6 which is disappointing in my opinion,was hopin for one story arc across all ten books like true epic fantasy,"there's nothing better than time passing to see your favorite characters evolve." you can do this with out a time gap and its far better without one,steven erikson showed every one how it should be done with the malazan book of the fallen series was hoping this was gonna be sandersons version/answer of/to that in a way so kinda disappointed its not,the two books so far have bin great,but just disappointed not one story arc,potential for it to be best epic fantasy ever was there but with a split time line its gone i think

It's impossible to have a single story arc with time-skip or something? I'm happy with time-skip simply because I can't see how these newbie Radiants would stand against Odium when old ones barely could even with Heralds, their knowledge and generations of KR. And as far as I know this series isn't about getting another Oathpact cycle going on, good guys have to stop Odium forever. I would be more disappointed if they accomplished it on their first try and it took them less than a decade while much more developed people of Roshar fought it for millenias and failed.

Btw Malazan had a lot of time skips. Most likely you're just forgetting them because books were more episodic and there wasn't any major time-skips after GotM timeline. Remember Karsa and Trull Sengar. Whole Midnight Tides book was set 10(5? 20? not sure) years before main story, so you could say that every single book in series was set after time-skip between Midnight Tides and main story. Karsa has a same kind of time-skip. And I can't remember more but there are a lot of little things you could call time-skips but simply because Malzan got so much story going on at the same time and very untidy timeliness makes it look like it has none. If story was written in a chronological way it would've been more obvious.

Ruin, Odium and other negative Shards would be challenging. My laziness versus their desire to destroy the world. Harmony would be fun as well.

Centuries would make sense if they fail to save the world this Desolation but humanity somehow survives and new characters take up Oathpact go to Damnation and come back after 400-500 years. This is unlikely but considering how much we got in second book if Sanderson is going to keep this up nobody knows where we'll be after 5 books. Characters already found Urithiru, became KR and fought against Voidbringers. 8 more books without some major plot twist would be impossible at this point.

If I'm remembering correctly Elantris is set 400 years before Mistborn Trilogy and TLR did all the changes 1000 years before Mistborn Trilogy. Reod happened 10 years(?) before Elantris main story. But I might be wrong on those timeliness...

It isn't so much that it is different factions so much as WHICH factions. In particular, Syl's general disgust towards the Cryptics puts the spren automatically at odds with one another.

And that I count as a + for Shaladin, because Syltern would be "cute".

If Shalladin actually happens Syl and Pattern will have to just take it and that's all to it. There will be some complaining at first but nothing else. I doubt they would unbound simply because that would've been very uncool and Spren are cool. So I don't see Spren as an obstacle for relationships between different orders. BUT there is one very important thing, Spren share same ideals as Radiants they're bound to. Cryptics and Honorspren don't like each other because they're too different. Cryptics lie, disguise, etc and that's not really honorary way of doing things. Sha;lan lies a lot, while Kaladin is all about honor. So if they won't end up together its not because their Spren hate each other, but because Shallan and Kaladin are not compatible.

On the other hand Syl would be a problem with Veiladin, because as far as we know she's very bad girl and it would've had same effect on Syl as when Kaladin was letting Diagram kill Elhokar. But as I said before, 10 books = anything can happen. Veil might be anyone and she might turn into anyone. It won't be happening soon though.

Although I don't see Shallan's lies affecting her relationship with Kaladin as much as with Adolin. She told him her story if nothing else. I feel sorry for Adolin (

Not yet, they are on my list but a lack of funds inhibits that. I have a friend who I will be meeting up with who owns Mistborn and we'll be doing a trade (my Stormlight for his Mistborn), outside of that we'll have to wait and see. I REALLY want to read Warbreaker though, as I've heard rumors Zahel is in it.

Warbreaker is free, you can download pdf from here.

There are 10 books in series, I'm sure we'll be getting some relationships between characters from different factions. Most of Cosmere books have those and there will be lots of characters changing factions before we get to conclusion. I'm for Jasnadin but anything can happen...

Shallan+Adolin+Renarin would've been more like Navani+Dalinar+Gavilar but Renarin got creep-zoned and now she's ruining my Jasnah+Kaladin ship :angryfanboygonefangirlingandstuff:

Welcome btw Have you read Brandons other adult novels?

Still regretting watching Mirai Nikki. It has interesting twists but and story so you keep watching it because you want to know whats up but ending wasn't worth it imo. Accel World wasn't my thing from the beginning :| I too haven't watched Cowboy Bebop even though I know I'll love it, just keep forgetting it when I'm into anime watching mood  

Bleach had an awesome beginning, then it started doing same over and over again with more fights and less story every time and I stopped watching it when

Kill la Kill is masterpiece, just because it's done by same people as TTGL

btw am I the only one who sees similarities between TTGL and Mistborn? 

Because we know so much about what happened in the six years between Gavilar's death and The Way of Kings. calamity, we know absolutley zero about what Elhokar has done as a king. We know that before Gavilar's death he threw a couple undeserving people in jail, and we know he's led his people on a long, drawn out, profitable war that has kept Alethkar as the single most powerful nation on Roshar. calamity it may have even made Alethkar that important. All we have to go off of is that he listens to his subordinates, which any good king would, and Moash's complaints from before he was even king. Elhokar isn't an amazing King. But our defintion of amazing King is conquering Warlord given the rulers we historically celebrate, Instead He's been nothing but stable for the kingdom. Alethi thinking he is a bad king doesn't mean much. Alethi are almost by defintion, greedy warmongering idiots. Elhokar has focused and united that into a setting that hasn't turned the world against them. Personally, that's amazing. And Dalinar didn't do much of that...

There is a difference between bad person and bad king. He's obviously a good guy but he is a bad king. He needs to remind people of his status. He has no real power. Nobody respects him as a king. He can't lead and he has a ideology of a child. He knows that he's bad at it and wants to be better but if wanting and trying aren't enough.

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Was it confirmed that Amaram was using the Blade he took from Kaladin? It turned out, after all, that he owned two of them - one taken from an assassin, and one taken a few months earlier and hidden away.

 

At least, I believe I've got the details right here, but have only read that part of WoR once sofar, so may have missed something.

 

I think we'll find out that Kaladin didn't kill Helaran, but some other Shardbearer, and Helaran was the assassin sent after Amaram a few months later.

 

Back on topic though, I don't think Shallan and Renarin would stand a chance. They are opposites. He is a Truthseeker, she deals in lies. That said, opposites attract, so who knows?

Assassination month ago/after etc was just Amaram lying. He had only one sword which he took from Kaladin and Helaran actually was there to assassinate Amaram so it's a nice lie. Second sword he got from Dalinar, who wanted to check whether or not Amaram would lie to him, which he did. Dalinar had already bonded that sword and reclaimed easily by summoning it.

 

Good point with them being opposites. I seriously doubt Shallan will end up with Kaladin or Adolin. I'm expecting something more special on romance side of story. Adolin and Shalan is never happening as far as I know. Only thing that attracts her to Adolin is his looks and she's been lying/manipulating him ever since they met. Kaladin and Shallan are too obvious to be true and I don't see them together for a long time.

“Three of sixteen ruled, but now the Broken One reigns.”

Its obviously one of three gods on Roshar. Honor is shattered but I don't see him reigning so it should be Odium.

I always thought Jasnah and Kal would end up together. Age doesn't matters, especially if they end up being immortal... or die like other characters from another series. Shallan will either end up with Renarin or Lopen. But I believe Rock is a serious candidate for her too:

 

“A Horneater?” the man said, leaning down, inspecting Shallan’s red hair. “Wearing a Vorin dress. Rock would have a fit.”

That word you use, "Horrible King" I don't think it means what you think it means. Elhokar is a weak king. He's made mistakes and killed more than a few people. But He's the ruler of Millions of people(based on the population of the shattered plains, and it mainly being the military branch of the country.) He managed to pick up a country that had barely been unified and keep it together for six years without any of his powerful rivals killing and supplanting him. He's kept the nation at the forefront of the world. That's an amazing thing on it's own. When it comes right down to it, leaders make decisions. Leaders of nations will have lives on their head, not all of them justifiable. Nothing Elhokar has done has made him a horrible king. He's not a dictator ripping his country apart. He hasn't fostered massive Rebellions(up until now, and I blame that on his wife) The Vengeance pact is stupid. But He didn't make that decision. His legislative body(The High Princes) did. In Six years a horrible King would have destroyed Alethkar, leaving it a squabbling mess of warring High Princes rampaging across the land willy nilly. He managed to not do that. Not much more can be asked of him.

He is a horrible king, because he didn't do anything. Even if he tried to live up to your understanding of "Horrible King" he would've ended up dead. Highprinces would kill him and even Dalinar wouldn't defend him at that point. Actually if Dalinar wanted him turned into that kind of king, he would've done it easily. I'll rather have a tyrant king who kills his own people for fun than someone who doesn't understands whats he's doing and follows someones advises without consideration.

Stormlight Archive music for me:
Dark war scenes = Sabaton
Epic war scenes/fights = Dragonforce, Two Steps from Damnation, Immediate Music, etc
My official Arena music =

All other parts =

Yeah but maybe it's because 'old magic' was never ever explained. Magician just had to read books, wave his wand, shout out some words in made up language and thunder and flames were all over the place. Maybe he entered Shadesmar and made air believe it was thunder and flames, stuff he was shouting in physical realm was just dismembered and mixed up version of his cognitive dialogue with air and wand/staff were just used for looks. And there you have, old magic, explained like ability. Take away those explanation's from Soulcasting and have people transforming stuff into flames and you'll get classical magicians.