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  1. Devotary of Spontaneity
    3-2 would include 5 of you, me, roleless James, Gears/Breaker, and Archer. If Gears is evil while Breaker is not, that would be a guaranteed loss because of the two vote minimum but otherwise theoretically salvageable. There's plenty of elim teams powerful enough that they wouldn't need Greys, for instance any five member team with two Warders. Do we know what the options for that are? If you were the Warder or Ajah for a dead elim it's worth mentioning. Breaker-Gears Matrim-? Lotus-? Connie-? ?-Quinn ?-Striker ?-Archer Probably we know some of these and I just missed it. I see you're saying that you don't think there were internal elim bonds. Do you still think 3 Ajah, 2 Warders or what?
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    That's also a lie. Did you read either my or Illwei's posts detailing how votes were cast?
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    James, unless you're claiming that you and Matrim are evil it's a full on lie that the elims have led every counterwagon to save Dannex. It takes me more than a few minutes to write things. Dannex (3): Matrim's Dice, Gears, Archer Order (3): James, Dannex, Breaker I'm screaming internally but I've also given up. What do you want me to do with my votes to make a tie?
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    You're right that 5 elims with two Warders would be a lot though I don't think impossible. The only possible way that I'm an elim is if Dannex is also evil. Nothing else makes any sense whatsoever. It also doesn't make sense for Dannex to be evil. We've covered this literally the entire game. I don't know why people keep talking about Dannex being evil when it doesn't really make sense. Dannex (4): Ashbringer, Liranil, StrikerEZ, Condensation Lotus (3): Matrim's Dice, Illwei, Flyingbooks42 Liranil (3): Breaker, James Brafin, Dannex Gears (1): Quinn0928 StrikerEZ (1): Archer Here was the D1 vote count as of 20 minutes before rollover. Lotus votes for Dannex, who you apparently believe is evil and not Liranil who is village, 13 minutes before rollover. James switches to Lotus 10 minutes before rollover and Dannex follows onto a prospective teammate without having seen James's switch, and Breaker kills the Liranil train by voting Dannex. Dannex (6): Ashbringer, Liranil, StrikerEZ, Condensation, Lotus, Breaker Lotus (5): Matrim's Dice, Illwei, Flyingbooks42, James, Dannex Gears (1): Quinn0928 StrikerEZ (1): Archer Striker laments the switch to Lotus without caring about the six votes on Dannex. Books misses all the posts and tries to switch to Liranil. I vote for Lotus seven minutes before rollover and Books switches back at the last minute. Dannex (6): Ashbringer, Liranil, StrikerEZ, Condensation, Lotus, Breaker Lotus (6): Matrim's Dice, Illwei, Flyingbooks42, James, Dannex, Devotary Gears (1): Quinn0928 StrikerEZ (1): Archer Cycle 2 where Dannex was saved by a late push on Ash, we have Ashbringer (6) : Matrim's Dice, Breaker, StrikerEZ, James Brafin, Illwei, Devotary of Spontaneity Dannex (5) : Gears, Ashbringer, Quinn0928, Lotus, Archer, Liranil Quinn0928 (1) : Dannex Striker starts a wagon on Ash 4 minutes before rollover against 7 Dannex votes that he can't have expected would work since neither of the two known elims on Dannex bothered to switch onto the new train. Cycle 3 the vote was Dannex (3): Gears, Breaker, Archer Quinn0928 (2): Matrim's Dice, Devotary of Spontaneity Archer (1): James Brafin an hour and forty minutes before rollover, which was the last time Quinn was able to be online according to text she's not allowed to lie with. Illwei puts a vote on Archer so that by the time Dannex shows up and votes Quinn, the tally is Dannex (3): Gears, Breaker, Archer Quinn0928 (2): Matrim's Dice, Devotary of Spontaneity Archer (2): James Brafin, Illwei so there's no reason for an elim Dannex to vote for elim Lotus. Lotus votes for Archer bringing it to a three way tie and Illwei switches to Quinn for a final of Quinn0928 (4): Matrim's Dice, Devotary of Spontaneity, Dannex, Illwei Dannex (3): Gears, Breaker, Archer Archer (2): James Brafin, Lotus C4 means little because everyone voted for Lotus and the only votes on Dannex C5 were Gears and Breaker.
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    There's no reason we would lose 5-2, nor do I see why it would end up in a double kill between you and me, but I don't need to vote until the end, so sure. Breaker. We'll all come back later to cast votes based on something other than murdering people purely for their role.
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    It's either Dannex with completely irrational elim behavior, someone with Gears/Breaker and quite possibly both given how tightly in lockstep they are, or people who have been completely uninvolved like Order and King's Way/Orlok. There's no inherent reason the village can't have two browns or two blues. I'm more suspicious of Gears but he won't die because he's a Warder. I do think the elims have two Warders, Lotus and Gears.
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    I did misremember when Matrim was attacked, it was the cycle before Lotus died. If we're going to go there can't possibly be two village browns we might as well go there can't possibly be two village blues. Gears is the Warder of the two, so Breaker works better. Although an E/E pair could easily be lying about that.
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    @Breaker, @Gears, why do you trust each other enough to give your vote away to the other? Who did you Blue Ajah scan? Starting to think you're an E/E pair.
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    Burnt
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    Dannex (2): Gears, Breaker Devotary of Spontaneity (2): Archer, Illwei Gears (1): Devotary of Spontaneity The Unknown Order (1): Burnt James Brafin (1): The Unknown Order Burnt Spaghetti (3): Dannex, James, Matrim Do we know what Burnt's scans were?
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    Who do you actually suspect? We've talked about Dannex being a villager this entire game. Start with something that has a good chance of working.
  12. Devotary of Spontaneity
    Right now, we're purposefully killing villagers for arcane Aes Sedai-Warder reasons.
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    Matrim was attacked right when the elims were about to lose their Striker, Quinn, Lotus, that's count 'em third elim. Absolutely nowhere do I suggest that a Grey could be evil. I am genuinely confused as to why people are voting for me. Dannex is barely any better
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    Devotary (2): Archer, Illwei James (2): Matrim's Dice, Order Matrim (1): Breaker Dannex (1): Gears Burnt (1): Dannex Gears(1): Devotary Any particular reason for thinking that Dannex is village while I'm evil? I don't think the elims would be sacrificing a warder life right when they're going to be losing their third member, so not voting Matrim. James was around at rollover C1 to have purposefully removed a vote that would force the shrek to hit elim Lotus without hitting Dannex, who I still don't think is evil. We know why Quinn didn't vote in self-preservation. She said so in blue text. There were three votes on Dannex, only two on her making her not in obviously fatal danger, and she couldn't be around for the remaining hour and forty minutes of the cycle. I'll vote for Gears here, mostly for the vote patterns and continued push for Dannex to die.
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    If you think I'm evil then you pretty much have to have that Dannex is also evil. There's absolutely no way elim me repeatedly saves village Dannex at the expense of elims. I don't and have never seen Dannex as an elim this game. @The Unknown Order, can you confirm James's Ajah targets? I can believe there would be two vilage Greys against a five person elim team with decent roles including an extra life.
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    I spent the first three cycles saying you weren't evil and backed it up with my role. I didn't claim because I didn't want to reveal my role before it was necessary. Who did you target C1? 4-3-2 on C3 doesn't seem like a wide wagon, all it would have taken was one vote manip to make Dannex die alongside Quinn.
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    Sure. I removed a vote from Dannex the first three cycles and then cancelled Lotus's vote just to show I was still here. Targeted Lotus, Ash, Gears, and Lotus.
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    Main village Lotus scenario is where one of the Grey Ajah is an elim and purposefully removed a vote from Dannex to make sure Lotus got hit. Wouldn't be quite as clearing since a Grey Ajah would know Lotus is a Warder with a double life if they were both evil. Burnt, the Grey Ajah you know might be relevant, especially if they didn't vote for Lotus. Edit: You aren't supposed to put votes in edits but it's almost seven hours until rollover so there should be plenty of time for @TJ Shade to see it. I'll put a vote on Lotus but will not be around to see any EoD discussion.
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    So James is the Ajah and Order is the Warder in contrast to what Matrim guessed and I reported as fact without checking. I'm pretty sure village!Lotus's reads include Gears being an elim, hence the vote.
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    Matrim's Dice Warder Gears (GB/W) Ashbringer Rebel Aes Sedai [Blue Ajah] Breaker (GB/A) Blue Ajah Quinn0928 Black Ajah [Red Ajah] Lotus (LB/W) Warder Archer Liranil Rebel Aes Sedai [Green Ajah] Shard of Reading Rebel Aes Sedai [Yellow Ajah] StrikerEZ - Star Black Ajah [White Ajah] The Unknown Order (TJ/A) James Brafin (TJ/W) Burnt Spaghetti (LB/A) Brown Ajah Illwei White Ajah Dannex Brown Ajah Flyingbooks42 Devotary of Spontaneity Condensation Warder Orlok Tsubodai We have this for public claims I think, with bonded pairs noted by first initial. Illwei knows who Mat's Ajah is. Dannex has scanned someone as a Warder. We know that out of the unknowns there are two Grey Ajah. I am not Connie's Ajah.
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    Dannex voted for Ash a couple minutes after the cycle ended. E/E Dannex Lotus is because Lotus voted for Archer when Quinn and Dannex were tied for the lead? You can fake multiquote by putting in a quote box and then c/ping in parts of someone's post.
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    Quinn is for defending Striker and trying to push Liranil's kill off him, Archer I see is for continuing to push Dannex and misrepresenting the arguments around Dannex and Striker
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    I'd like to avoid the thing where I read 7 pages 30 minutes before rollover in order to figure out who to vote for.
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    I'm thinking Illwei, James, Matrim lean village, I still do think Dannex is village but I'd like to have the switch of 'why are we voting for a villager, let's go for anyone else' to happen a bit sooner. Only one Grey Ajah went in Dannex's defence, which I think is an overall plus. I'll start with Quinn I think, since she was the most concerned with preventing the kill on Striker.
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