Archer

After a splendid date today, I got my dates confused and thought this turn ended on Monday. I’m glad I checked. Here’s some probably rushed notes. - Although I’m sure an elim doc with Illwei in it had a lot of off topic stuff to get through, and thus important things might have gotten buried, I’ve become convinced that Jondesu’s apparent ignorance of Kas’ claim etc is village indicative. -re: “Mat what's your read on Drake rn”: this was a neutral statement. If it’d been ground work for an exe vote, it could have been teammate talk, but nothing came of it -I think voting for Steel is overly paranoid. It would have been difficult for Illwei to justify not exing Steel if it came to it after they were their only elim read. That said, the person Ash picks as the second likeliest to be an elim when he does his narrowing down lists is always evil, so Steel may actually be evil after all. :P. Also, voting on a train because it’s currently the largest isn’t great reasoning, especially when largest at the time means two votes. -I’m also confused why TUO hasn’t gotten much mention. I think it’d be more productive to exe someone other than them today, because I think it’s a true tossup over if Illwei defence of them was support for a teammate or just bluster. TUO being evil clears TJ, so it’d be awesome if Zelda could scan TUO tonight. My other pick would probably be Drake, but that’s just for selfish reasons so I know if my PM is safe to use. And then if Link successfully kills someone… we’ve got four potential elim reveals coming during this cycle, which is fabulous. Surely at least one of them is right, right? We can figure out how to avoid overlap during the Night. -Stick has little connection to Illwei. I don’t like exing them because it feels like we're not chasing down the leads from Illwei's flip, which I'm sure makes the elims rather happy -Alvron… bluetexted his desire to start a food fight. Of course you know this means war. Waffles, you have my bow. Also, he missed Steel’s vote on Stick, so to make it a tie, I’ll need to add my support. Tani, for the same reasons. Position on Illwei's reads list, plus they seem like a likely e!Drake teammate since they retracted their vote on him D1. They explained it away as being joking, but I think it was more distancing gone wrong. It concerns me that Drake and Tani have yet to vote, giving them ample opportunity to influence the exe. We gotta pad our margins better, guys and gals

The obvious lead is their reads list. Surely they'd try to sneak their teammate onto it, get them some trust cover. I believe Tani was in that sweet spot of being a one plus trust. I highlighted the spot I was interested in in my last post. I'll be off world most of Saturday and the rest of tonight. Hi, Kayla! * "hey elf, we forget who the Secretary of State is..." "I AM LINKOV!" "Oh that's right, Mr Blinken!"

You'd need an unriggable RNG decider, something like the final digit of Apple's stock at a certain time picks who gets elected. The odds should work in our favour, assuming complete buy in. My gut reaction to this suggestion though was that it came from an elim. Bold gambits often get people village read, and this reads like someone trying to take advantage of that. It's a plan that's detrimental to the elims but it probably won't be implemented so there's little risk. And that line about Dannex wishing he'd thought of it just made me go hm. Best read right now besides Fifth is Absolutely TJ * I was told by my supervisor that if I didn't like my job, I should just quit and find a new one. The cost of joblessness makes that impossible. I can't afford to go a week without working while I try to find new employment, nevermind that I'd get shunted to the bottom of the seniority order wherever I end up. Besides, every factory in this town colludes to fix wages at the same basement rate. - Chalkboard

In-character, I have zero trust in you now :P. Never trust anyone who asks to be trusted. I see that white text. Do we have telegraphs in Mist born Era 1? I really like TJ's opening post. It was solid analysis and helpful contributions. I feel like an elim wouldn't challenge it, so I appreciate that you did. You seem just as competent as I expect Tani to be, so I'd support you for village leader if it looked possible. I want you alive though to help out at least until the back half of the game. I hadn't realized this format had already been run on the Shard, so that's nice. I have a thread I can reference. My google of Avalon strategy just turned up some Reddit threads that didn't match our format exactly. Not sure I like that Steeldancer vote. Seems unjustified. So can the elected elims help choose who the elims guess is the Tineye? I thought they couldn't contact their team Oi, maybe I don't want to be kicked out of the game either! Actually I'm fine with it, I've got some busy days ahead. FYI I'll probably be offline on Saturday. This game is so weird in that everyone is so cheerful about the removal. You're doing great, time for you to leave I like the radio bit. What's KAS stand for? (besides someone shouting the GM's name) * Lord Ruler knows why I'd want to, but if I ever had the mind to buy one of the pipes I help make every day, I wouldn't be able to afford it. Something is wrong when a man can't ever enjoy the fruits of his labour. - Chalkboard

This is fun, it's like a reverse poke! Thanks, that's a good conversation starter. I'm not disputing your village read of me, but I will say I probably could have come up with reasons to vote for pretty much anyone. Tani is the best choice, but I could have made a pretty similar post for like Illwei because they also have off site experience or Araris because they're level headed or something. I'm not reading too much into this because I think you wanted to just kickstart things, but it felt pretty fast and easy. Mat trusting me always feels sus though :P. I don't think it's a coincidence that that response took about as much time as it takes to make a fake account. I'M ON TO YOU, KASYRM * Another note was posted by teatime. Our factory procures the raw materials to make a heavy pipe for 15 boxings. After we work on them, they sell the finished product for 30 boxings. Obviously we add half the value of every finished product, so why are we only paid three bloody boxings a week? - Chalkboard

*casually prewrites RP while Kas gets the turn up* I swear Wyrm is a made up person crazy Kas just thinks is real. :P. Not only am I Zelda, I'm also the Tineye! This format is new to me, so my instinct is to defer the Worker Leader role to Tani, who I believe has experience with this, based on their pre game comments. Tani I think the general strategy will be to not trust anyone who supports an elim's election to the Council. Obviously some of the votes will be from villagers, but if we stick to that, after the first elim gets in it'll be hard for a second to be elected without some serious wooing from the evil guys. Which should be easy to spot. I'm guessing it's a 2v:1e ratio. You can't have so many villagers that it's impossible for elims to get in, but the village is more prone to inactivity and confusion, so they need a decent chunk of the group. I'm thinking 6 elims, because with 18 players that's a nice round third. I'd believe 7 though. Once an elim shows their hand it's really hard for them to regain trust, so it might be they need a lot of people to have a fair shot. I feel like the standard sus n' trust discussions will translate fine to this, but we'll need to put more effort into verifying our trusts. It'll be weird not to be able to threaten people; without an exe, people won't be prompted by self interest to vote. Which is thematically fitting. Speaking of which, time to RP. * That morning, a note was pinned to the bulletin board of the bar. "A year ago today, a preventable workplace accident cost me my vocal coards. But it didn't take my voice. Now frail of body, I feel abandoned by the management of our company. Demoted and cast away without compensation! I beseech you, my fellow workers, to heed my call and join the Union so that none of us will be left behind in our moments of need." The notice was signed, Chalkboard.

No problem. Fair warning though, that's a selective summary centered around players on my radar/most connected to Illwei. One of the reasons I'm sus of Drake is that they revealed he and I had a PM in his reads list. Used it to justify trusting me, but didn't seemed concerned about revealing the information to the elims. Village me in his shoes would have kept that a secret longer. I'm glad to hear you'd be told if you were redirected. Why'd you pick Illwei to scan, out of curiosity? Other point of curiosity, what's your funky pfp of!

I’m glad Illwei is open wolfing and never considered suggesting the scan was redirected. Hey guys, if you ISO e!Illwei, Pyro looks really village. Kas too. Welp. Here’s the quick notes: Page 1: TJ villaged me P2: Illwei seemed ignorant that Kogha was a conf evil role, but used analysis to sus it. Guessed 6 man elim team with a Soother and knight in there, with v!doctor. P2/3: Mat responded to Illwei’s c/p and village read them. Dannex said Illwei is ‘full of crem’. Illwei didn’t draw conclusions from it, so what was the goal of the gambit? Get Mat village credit for catching it? P4: Illwei village read Waffle for being verbally cute. P5: Steeldancer voted Illwei for being chaotic. Mat defended them as acting normally, which Steel accepted but didn’t move their vote. TJ’s hard on TUO, so not e-e. P6: Drake soft-sussed Pyro for their rules comments. Illwei strongly defended TUO, Kas voted them for it. Illwei voted TJ (who is now the only surviving person they voted on, therefore they must be evil, as Illwei always votes on an elim D1) who doubled down on TUO P8: Illwei sussed everyone advocating for e!Beedle possibility P9: Illwei nulls Drake, votes for Pyro. Drake RNGs Pyro P10: Tani pulled their vote off of Drake because it was near rollover. P11: Illwei, in response to Ash, said “Publicly speculating on how many vanillas, who the vanillas are, whatnot, isnt helpful and is actively harmful.” I move onto Pyro, Drake moves off. P12: TJ village reads Illwei for village reading Waffle Illwei’s reads list: Szeth/Steel not E/E ---[+++]--- Matrim: - He Identified that my post wasn't me, which shows to me an investment in actually solving me IMO Archer: - Starting the Zelda theory, Claiming Zelda ---[++]--- Pyro: - Claiming Zelda. Pyro would theoretically be more wary of drawing attention to himself, being the first person. ---[+]--- Alv, Tani, (Azmine-less so), anyone else I'm missing who claimed Zelda and isn't Archer or Pyro - I'd think at most there's one elim in the pool of everyone who claimed Zelda. too much attention. Araris, Kas, TUO: - doing the whole "fake roleclaiming" thing. Mostly TUO. Waffles: - Pure tone pretty much. Enthusiasm/Excitement. will move down if it doesn't translate into solving. [I think there’s an elim in here -Archer] ---[-]--- Steel: - Everything feels forced, tonally. not on my kill list yet, giving a pass for the whole...hasn't been on for 2 years thing, needs time to adjust *** Just based on potential connections, we have Village: Kas for claiming Beedle, Dannex for outing Illwei, Steel for being Illwei’s top sus, myself, my postman (who I've told Drake I suspect is Mat, but no need to confirm/deny that), Link, Zelda. After tonight’s deaths, that’ll be 6/26 cleared, which is great progress, provided Zelda is efficient with their alignment scans. Elimy: Mat village read Illwei and defended them, Waffle was village read by Illwei, TUO was defended by Illwei, Drake sussed Pyro and was left off of Illwei’s reads list initially and ‘RNGed’ Pyro, TJ village read Illwei. Obviously not all of these are right I’ve got a few elim team ideas: Illwei and TJ could have been using their respective reads on Waffle and TUO to distance but align later in the round. Ilwei didn’t need to throw Waffle cover, so I think that was a red herring. But… Illwei and TUO could be teammates, hence the defence they mounted. In that case, TJ is clear. An Illwei-Tani-Drake connection could also exist, as shown by how their votes interacted. Tani is also my best bet for the elim on Illwei’s reads list I think the way Mat interacted with the gambit was villagey, and Illwei putting them at the top of their list is a tad obvious. I think the way Illwei interacted with Ash made them seem villagey. So I’m clearing those two for now. My exe pick for tomorrow will probably be either TJ, Tani, or Drake. *** Steeldancer, to answer your question from a while ago, it was weird that you voted Illwei, easily accepted when someone told you your reasoning was wrong, but didn't remove the vote. Felt like someone trying to avoid making village enemies more than someone hunting elims. As for your dislike of trust groups, yeah, they're problematic if the game is played in them. But I think what's being proposed here is a more benign version where PMs are just used to share key information about who not to exe. The thread will still decide who to exe. We shouldn't take our foot off the gas just because we had some good luck. We got an elim early last game too, and then we lost.

Village points to Illwei for being forgetful I suspect Kas is being cagey about the Fish Plan so that those who publicly declared what items they got aren't crossed off the elim list of targets. If Kas now knows who Zelda is, the only fake claim that can be made is to be Link. Maybe the likely village Postman who set up me and Drake. But that's half of the options desperate elims had before, so that's nice. This seems like an overreaction. Besides not wanting to make their day worse, I don't see leaving a vote on hyleria as a huge problem. And voting on someone because they're a leading train betrays a lack of ability to come up with a reasonable choice on your own, which can be an elim tell. But thank you for clarifying Yes please Ah ha! That's a village slip He tends to start cheerfully then get annoyed when he's in danger, so I don't think that's the best way to tell right now Village points for being behind, unless it's faked, but I suspect that's not the route e!Jond would go

Well that's unfortunate. I put a lot of effort into softing a Beedle planning to take a durian for themselves so that after getting bodyguard protection N1 I'd seem to be unNKable. I'm now a prime target, and I think given my position as a widely trusted individual, it'd be helpful if I continue to survive. So maybe flip a coin, village bodyguard? Heads save Beedle, tails save me? Maybe the IKYK will save us both. If Kas is lying, Beedle, I suggest rejecting every item request tonight. Sound fair, Kas? I assume you're going to grant at least a few, so if nobody gets anything, we'll know you're faking it. Combined with maybe saying what one person requested, that should be sufficient proof. I asked the GMs if there's multiple Beedle and got a PAFO, by the way. I doubt there is, but it was an interesting answer considering the rules heavily imply there's only one. As for the voters, Kas seemed a little over confident, but definitely seemed interested in surviving. Pyro's lack of self pres and returnee status scared me off of that train, and probably should have deterred Kas too? But it makes sense based on the role. Sorry anyway, Pyro Loitering around rollover is a bad look for Stick, but the actual vote felt villagey. The vote manip comment was weird for someone who hadn't themselves voted yet I forget Illwei's reasoning, could be their vote was a little sticky given IIRC they complained about it late round but didn't change it? Genuinely don't remember Szeth ever posting. Wait, they changed their picture. I'll have to look for the actual vote post though. Overall, could have been worse I guess

Try a spoonful of honey for an upset stomach. Works pretty well. Also, I disagree that Pyro is being defensive. They weren't really, they tried to blow past the votes on them until their last post. But they're a returning player so I'm switching to my backup. Ashbringer didn't want to do the Frog Plan and didn't want to guess the number of vanillas. Seems overly cautious. After that, my list of possible elims goes TUO, Steel, Pyro, Drake, Mat. I looked at Tani but couldn't find much, even though my gut pointed their way. Pyro Ashbringer

If I had a nickel for every time someone said I exist, I'll post thoughts later, I'd have enough to buy some bubble gum. It's cool, it's a big thread. I'd rather people just drop the first thought that comes into their head when they poke at the thread though, because it's actually both easier and more helpful. Seeing where you're at right now is better in my opinion than hearing a lot of hindsight later. For example, Devo's post I was entirely fine with, even if they didn't talk about every single thing and person they could have. I voted for you because I think you're European(?) and therefore more likely to need to mount a strong defence during the night that I could come back and reflect upon in my morning. I wanted to see how you'd react to genuine pressure, because you're facing a big enough train to be viable. I'm not entirely happy with how you did. What I find suspicious is that you've basically ignored it, and then now leaned into emotional arguments to prevent your exing. This is the first real defensive post you've made, and it's more about old games than this one. I'll +1 noting Mat being against Steel and Pyro's exes but not being able to explain why they're villagery. Edit: speaking of ignoring votes, I just did that. Hi purple! My vote on you was an activity poke, coupled with a direct question to make it easier to ease into engaging. But your thoughts are valid and I respect the vote

@ beedle I want information more than I want an item. I don't intend to request anything too powerful from the handsome and intelligent travelling salesman. I'd take a pot if he were selling them, but I'll settle for a non-Durian, non-Frog thing. I don't think I'll specify further. If it puts you in a bad spot, don't worry about signalling me (and by extension the thread). Your role, your call. Per my initial post, given how many players we have, if you do one of each named role and two of the others, maybe even three, you're left with a fair number of vanilla left over. But! The elims have few vanillas, if any, for balance reasons. So they probably have a poor idea of how many vanillas there are, which is to say, I'm with Illwei on this one. I'm not totally against rules analysis, because it's D1 and it can be done in a neutral way. Just be careful of crossing yourself off the elims' list of people who could be a confirmed good, because they need the cover. To mess with Drake's vote counter. Relatedly, I figured out why Drake was pinging my elimdar. It was something they said yesterday slight sussing me for asking people to work to be village read. It was a weird comment. Also they revealed our PM, which I didn't expect a villager to do. That's all I've got against them so far. Steeldancer voted, so I'll move off of him this round (thanks for the gender!). That clears the bar in terms of me wanting to know where their head is at. Main quibble with them actually relates to that though; they're very responsive to pressure in a wolfy way. Steel to Pyro

That's a strong read. I can understand your angle, based on TUO's history, but TUO has been dodgy enough this game that I'm doubting that line of thought. They're more neutral to me, so thinking they're strong village seems odd. They've been using RNG interestingly so far. That triggered my :hmm: Why not? They deflected my... Oh nevermind they promised analysis. I'll reconsider my vote tomorrow morning. I'm still curious why YOU don't want them to die though The ominousness continues This gives me the opportunity to mention that the person whoever made our PM did so before Drake got on the Shard and saw their alignment. I feel like an elim postman would have waited for fellow elim!Drake to get on to check with them before making the PM. So I don't think they're e-e. We're also a good combo, having worked together late in the last LG, which I think is why we were paired up. It's an unselfish, well picked choice, so it feels like a village postman playing support. If they ever claim, I strongly suspect they're village aligned. So here's my conundrum. Either this is an elim who is worried about the benefits of the plan, or you're a villager offering good faith concerns. And it's very hard to tell the difference. If Beedle denies my request, even if Zelda went through with the plan, I'll be misinformed, but the main goal will have been accomplished all the same. I doubt Beedle will be handing out durians tonight anyway. They might take one for themselves, but it's a big power to hand out early in the game. Regardless, I don't plan on asking for one. I'm trying to walk the line between pushing a logical plan (yay) and mayoring (which is bad), and requesting a lower value item is one of the compromises I'll be making to ensure everyone has an enjoyable amount of agency. That's why I'm not seriously suggesting the mass role claim Phase Two, even though it'd be effective, in my opinion. Zelda too has free choice; if they don't want to participate, they can just not ask for a Frog. It's more likely that they will, and that should be enough to deter elims from impersonating them. And if anyone was dying to get a Frog, all we're doing is delaying you by a cycle. It's a pretty low impact play for a lot of benefit. At this point, everyone should know about it, so there shouldn't be any confusion.

I don't trust you. You dwarves lie a lot. :P. Araris, why are you arbitrarily limiting yourself to people other people have voted on? Eventually consolidation must occur to prevent the elims leading the exe, but this seems like a way to provide 'reasons' that aren't suspicions. Kas and Pyro continue to be very ominous, very scary @ village beedle if the frog plan goes wrong in any way, kindly signal that by refusing my item request tonight. Thank ye I'm getting the sense that my poke on purplewhiteandgold isn't doing anything, so I'll see what targeting Steeldancer does. The way they backed off Illwei but didn't move their vote seemed contradictory. I like their new pfp though! Steeldancer

As TJ said, to balance e!Beedle, you need to factor in that this cycle the elims will get 2 kill protects, and then whichever they want of the items that hide your actions or the items that give you an extra action. And the village gets nothing. Assuming the items generously refresh, next round they'll get a similar haul. And the village gets nothing. If Beedle is evil, they'll know who Zelda is and we'll be at risk, but it's not game over because we're asking Link not to claim. And in that scenario, we're in a great position to win anyway because the elim team is small/weak and we now know anyone who gets an item is evil. If Beedle is good, Zelda can get a kill protect next cycle. Then feed on frogs the rest of the game and scan two people's alignments every cycle. That's game changing and well worth attempting. Only Beedle gets to learn their identity, not everyone, so it's pretty safe. I'm fairly confident the elims hate this plan and would like to see it flop, so I'm going to keep advocating for it whenever it comes up. * Sidenote: at least two thirds of what Kas has said so far has been about PMs. Calling it now, he's a postman You're welcome! I'm sorry!

Hey all! Morning thoughts. - @The Unknown Order 's innate curiousity seems to have developed overnight as their playstyle has changed since the last LG. I'm still waiting on an explanation/acknowledgment of that, and rationale why their open information strategy is helpful to the village. So far all I've seen is that it has some possible individual benefits. Why should we think you're on our side? -I agree that Pyro's post about spamming the GM PM felt performanative. Villagers do that, elims have a doc -Illwei usually has some expected outcomes in mind from their gambit, how villagers or elims will react. It concerns me that they developed no insights from their chaos claim. What was the goal? Also, their new pfp looks super sus -If Yeet faked not knowing how votes work, they've basically got away with doing nothing this round. Time to change that. Now that you know how, who ya voting for @YeetAroundABush? -Still waiting on @purplewhiteandgold to offer their assessment of the Frog Plan. I like frogs over durians so normal people going for the protect don't have to advertise it, but I can see the benefits of both.

Yes, it ruins Phase Two of the Frog Plan, which is having everyone roleclaim by assigning every role to an item and either handing the elims a treasure trove of info or v!Beedle everything they need to know to optimize their distribution efforts. I'm just kidding. Mostly. I like gambits, okay Uh, no? Because I'm Zelda? Unless... @Biplet Can there be more than one Zelda? im so hurt and confused you have stolen my identity Behind Sagessa in line stood a green-clothed blonde kid. He seemed familiar, but vaguely Russianified. "I AM LINKOV!" he introduced himself. "We know," Beedle grumbled. "That's all he says. Bah. Hey, does anyone know the name of a 1990's rock band?" "I AM LINKOV!" The merchant's demeanor brightened. "Hey that's right, kid! I was trying to remember the name of Blink-182. Thanks, hero!" Linkov twirled his sword cheerfully, hand still extended for Sagessa to shake. * And friendly general reminder to avoid double posting, please. Keeps the thread shorter

I was assuming you were trying to waste the elim super kill and was hoping you'd come up with some good additional logic to fake the elims into doing it. Trying out something from the wiki makes sense too. What conclusions have you drawn from people's reactions to the attempt? I don't think you ever explained why you're doing this. Are you afraid of being exed? And hope to be transparent enough to overcome the group's potential suspicion? You do get exed a lot for not giving enough information. But I think you risk giving away too much of the wrong kind of information, valuable information to the elims, and look bad for not being worried about that I don't think it makes sense to have items be a significant part of the game and have an evil Beedle, who will only send items to his teammates. If you don't like the plan, kindly either don't request a Frog tonight or state that you intend to in-thread to avoid confusion. Zelda can weigh the merits of participating. They will either make the request or not. Meanwhile, the elims have to decide whether or not to make a request. If they do and Zelda does too, Beedle knows one of their ilk. If Zelda doesn't, they will benefit... but how risky do you think they are? Hey, purplewhiteandgold you've been lurking all day. What do you think of the Frog Plan?

I need that why are you booing, I'm right meme for this. But fair enough. One could easily argue Striker would try to maintain Mat's elim streak just for funsies, or that elim is easier than villager so Kas might be evil. Village points to everyone who rebuttaled my metaing, I think that's a villagey reaction. An elim would probably be more inclined to poke logical holes in the statement than to flatly refuse to consider it Did everyone miss the hidden message in that second wallpost where the all capitalized words laid out their plaaa- just kidding. Illwei hasn't adequately explained why they aren't afraid of the elim super kill, so I'd tend to agree with that.

If you only cast a third of a vote on me, do I only have to mount a third of a defense? Obviously I'm not an elim because. But on a more serious note, probably best not to play with the formatting of the game too much. Confusion is confusing. But it's on the GMs to decide what to do with it You know the difference between someone writing texts and someone writing an essay? It feels like that. I'm going to ignore it and see if Illwei keeps pumping out lengthy rebuttals for the debate they hoped would happen. :P. You're assuming the distribution is pure RNG. I think the GMs made a few distros and picked one that felt fair, with the parameters that Mat gets a break and Beedle is someone likely to be on on Night rounds, so half the ruleset isn't wasted by one person's inactivity. Also Kas probably got village because they're GMing soon. I'll sign that petition to add pots to the store. But only broken ones, like ones that automatically kill an elim when used.

Darn, you guys got all the good ones. I just got a GM PM saying you are a Yiga Clansman, your role is to bring about the Calamity, conspire in the doc yada yada For meta reasons (4 elim games in a row) I'm going to assume Mat isn't an elim. So here are the interesting scenarios. 1. Zelda doesn't put in an order for a Frog and an elim does, which confuses Beedle. That's bad, but I'm not sure why they'd do it, unless they think Beedle is evil. I respect their right to stay in hiding, but in this situation the elims correctly predicted that Zelda wouldn't go for it and were bold enough to make a fake submission. Which I find unlikely. 2. Zelda and an elim both submit a request. In this scenario, Beedle now knows one is good and one is evil. They can't expose the elim until they know who Zelda is, but they can use reads to sus it out. Regardless, they've got a good lead on an elim, which is better than nothing. If they cut both off to be safe and Zelda doesn't get items, it isn't a huge loss. 3. Most likely, only Zelda will submit a request. Because the elims don't want to risk being outed on D1. Why would you throw away your chances of a fun elim game like that? So Beedle can watch their back, and confirm their claim if they look about to be exed and need to divert a bad wagon. 4. Beedle is evil. He kills Zelda, and funnels items to the elims and no one else. That's unfortunate, but then we know not to count on him, right? Which is better than not knowing and relying on him at a worse time. Like exlo. Oh hello, Illwei. Nice claim you got there. It's a shame it's not true because *rips off mask* I AM LINKOV! I mean Zelda! Yeah!

*concern* Interesting. What do you mean by freedom of information heavy? Like, should be widely roleclaim? Good Beedle idea. The key word there being lucky. Your odds get better as the player count reduces, especially if you're an elim who knows who not to scan, but it's still unlikely that you'll catch a kill. And if a village scanner sees a kill, do they call it out and risk outing Link? I'd still like a plan for that scenario, and if someone about to be exed claims conf good. Because it'll probably happen with little time to react You could, but it'd mess up the village's plan, so only an elim would do it. In which case, ka-ching, free elim. The ninjas are out in force today, ack *** "Oh friendly forest sprite," the townsfolk asked, "however shall we entertain our children?" "I AM LINKOV!" "That's so clever! They'll love playing with Lincoln Logs. Thanks, hero!"

Reading Absolutely TJ as village because he's too suicidal to be an elim By the way, if anyone has a good reason to pick the Frogs, you could probably advertise that now. Then whoever didn't advertise they would ask for one but did anyway is still signaled to be a conf good. If two such people emerge, the other is obviously evil and must be smote. The rest are saying they aren't a conf good, which blows their cover a bit, but it allows for the items to be claimed. I'd rather double scans over double kills. If we trust Beedle enough to consider this strat, that's the better play. If we don't, then neither should claim. Link not getting involved is just backup for what I see as an unlikely scenario

Seeing Kas post reminded me to sign up for this. I'm tempted to join as Olaf the Showman who like warm bugs, but to avoid having to RP with a Josh Gad voice, I'll instead enlist as a general labourer known as Chalkboard, so called because ever since they were involved in an accident at work, their voice sounds like nails on a chalkboard.